JustAl

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and in that you are right it is true that many developers screw up but this is not the case karrin prison has a very toxic fandom
And of the worst, the type: I have the absolute truth. I am always right and everything that goes outside my line of thought is wrong. Things have to be done the way I say and if you don't you are a bad developer.
Rem mentioned in his letter that he is working on a game regardless of who he makes happy. That statement may very well be addressing the nagging he was getting, as he felt he could not make his fans happy. Considering Rem had an awakening through mortality as he said, it makes sense he gives zero fucks anymore and will just live the way he wants because he thinks life is too short to care to the point of feeling sick over it. KP was solid so I say let him cook. We'll know later. He's done enough good that KP is a good example to many people for how to improve their in-dev game projects. I suspect a person so creative can figure out new good things to implement. Even if he missed before, he got enough feedback to know why he shouldn't do that anymore, per mistake he got bad feedback for.
 
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If i were a developer, i'd pretty much stop giving a fuck about what people tell me, fandoms are just the most cancerous thing this planet hold on it. (For example, this thread in most parts.)
There's no point in trying to please everyone so just make a product that you're pleased with, it'll get the audience it'll get no matter what, if it's 10, 100, 1000 etc. people then so be it, trying to please everyone is a sisyphean task.
 

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and in that you are right it is true that many developers screw up but this is not the case karrin prison has a very toxic fandom
And of the worst, the type: I have the absolute truth. I am always right and everything that goes outside my line of thought is wrong. Things have to be done the way I say and if you don't you are a bad developer.
Actually the worst type is: I hereby swear to defend this developer until my last breath. I will do whatever it takes to defend them even if it meant using strawman arguments to make sure they never ever get criticized for their stupid ideas.
 
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Yeah people burned dev with their "stupid ideas" and it is totally not because dev came up with stupid ideas NOOOO it is always the people's fault. Developers cannot be at fault, ever.
110%. Fucking sick and fucking tired of devs, developers, directors, writers, ect giving us shit and when it bombs and fails, they turn around and blame US for not just shutting the fuck up and giving them our money for almost nothing. Not Rem in particular just in general it's the trend now a days in the movies and gaming industry.
 

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Actually the worst type is: I hereby swear to defend this developer until my last breath. I will do whatever it takes to defend them even if it meant using strawman arguments make sure they never ever get criticized for their stupid ideas.
If it were a huge developer with millions of dollars that is dedicated to squeezing players and giving them garbage, I would buy your argument, but the case is two small freelancers with ideas without financing and who have released a good game and with what they have earned they are going to finance their next game, so I guess there are differences of opinions, I can't treat two people who have worked hard to make a good game and a multinational that is dedicated to shitting in the players' mouths in the same way.

because let's remember that although there have been bad ideas that obviously a developer may have, no one is perfect. Karrin Prison is a good game that sets a lot of difference with other games and I believe in what I see and I see that the fandom of this game is tremendously toxic, Probably if you asked me about another game we would have the same opinion for sure
 
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If it were a huge developer with millions of dollars that is dedicated to squeezing players and giving them garbage, I would buy your argument, but the case is two small freelancers with ideas without financing and who have released a good game and with what they have earned they are going to finance their next game, so I guess there are differences of opinions, I can't treat two people who have worked hard to make a good game and a multinational that is dedicated to shitting in the players' mouths in the same way.
Poor developers make a shit dlc: I defend
Rich developers make a shit dlc: I attack
:KEK:
 

danadana

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Poor developers make a shit dlc: I defend
Rich developers make a shit dlc: I attack
:KEK:
Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's shit, if people have bought it, it's not that bad, right? :KEK: :KEK: :KEK:
If we measure everything under your prism everything is shit except what you like :FacePalm::FacePalm::FacePalm:
 
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110%. Fucking sick and fucking tired of devs, developers, directors, writers, ect giving us shit and when it bombs and fails, they turn around and blame US for not just shutting the fuck up and giving them our money for almost nothing. Not Rem in particular just in general it's the trend now a days in the movies and gaming industry.

Depending on the criticism and what said dev has done 100% agree. Some people go way too far and whine and whine and whine for shit, and like was previously said by evil earthworm jim, wind up shaping the game into what they want instead of what the creator wants.

It should be someone making something, people liking it and supporting it, and feedback is ok as long as it isn't completely changing what the game/idea is.

Obviously it's also a different case when said developer is doing a game/project about a previously exising ip/property, a lot of that recently has been people completely changing stuff for their views, and how they think something should be done, not the original creation's.
 

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I also love how on the internet everyone acts out like a petulent children. (Don't worry, i'm including myself into this criticism, my pfp is a little self-deprecating note about how i'm a manchild.)
It's like while offline you go to a park and see a dogturd, you might see it and not give a shit about it, but in online if you see a "dogturd" you immediately nosedive into it, smear it all over yourself and might even lickle it some and then start ranting and raving about why this dogshit has been smeared all over you and why would you people do such a thing to you, when infact you could've just done like you do offline.
 

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Hello there folks,
If you may stop throwing your own feces at each other like monkeys for one second, I've got a question.
I've played the games several times, in prisoner mode included, but there is something that still escapes me.
When you are playing whore mode, what is the threshold that makes a second ward near your office appear when you are in exhibitionist mode?
Cause I've played today from 0 with the newest version and in exhibitionist mode there was just 1 guard near the office, which surprised me. But now there is 2 and Idk why. Is it an edict? Is a slut level threshold? Idk.

Let's see what you guys think, thanks.
 

danadana

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Pretty sure Gym DLC didn't sell well, so there is that.
You don't know that, steam reviews are not a measuring sistem, only the developer knows, I don't know if it was good or bad, but if it were that bad the reviews would be extremely negative I reiterate, I don't defend the DLC either, I think it's something normal and simple porn for a porn game, if you like it, you buy it and if you don't skip it, it doesn't make any difference whether you have it or not.

Like the one with pubic hair and huge tits, there are people who don't like pubic hair or unnecessarily huge tits, so buy it or skip it.

The hardest way to hurt a developer is to not buy their shit because your complaints aren't going to go anywhere.
 
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my point is they should start a new game instead of milking more n more
He is, but it won't be BF sadly.

I hope it comes out decent enough, but BF seems to draw larger crowds. (Though that could be my speculation here.)

Case in point compare this with Melty Quest. Melty was ok, but holding it up to KP then MQ has no leg to stand on.
 

JustAl

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If i were a developer, i'd pretty much stop giving a fuck about what people tell me, fandoms are just the most cancerous thing this planet hold on it. (For example, this thread in most parts.)
There's no point in trying to please everyone so just make a product that you're pleased with, it'll get the audience it'll get no matter what, if it's 10, 100, 1000 etc. people then so be it, trying to please everyone is a sisyphean task.
The best part about making the game you want to make: surrounding yourself with a fandom you actually enjoy. One of the worst parts of making for others or being a leader of a public project is putting your whole self away and letting others drive your decisions, only for you to hate the work you made and hate the people you're surrounded by. Be who you want to see in the world, make what you want to see in the world.
 

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You don't know that, steam reviews are not a measuring sistem, only the developer knows, I don't know if it was good or bad, but if it were that bad the reviews would be extremely negative I reiterate, I don't defend the DLC either, I think it's something normal and simple porn for a porn game, if you like it, you buy it and if you don't skip it, it doesn't make any difference whether you have it or not.

Like the one with pubic hair and huge tits, there are people who don't like pubic hair or unnecessarily huge tits, so buy it or skip it.

The hardest way to hurt a developer is to not buy their shit because your complaints aren't going to go anywhere.
I think it was mentioned in the now deleted part of the Gym Feedback section of his Discord that Rem was disappointed in the sale numbers. But maybe it was just someone pulling that out of their ass so you are right, I don't know the sale numbers.

This is not comparable to the other DLCs. The Gym DLC they did need to pay the Voice actresses again, so there is much more invested behind that one. And pretty sure Rem hurt himself enough with the Gym DLC saga by promising to improve it after all the negative feedback he got and then half a year later was just nah fuck it, it is good as it is and just releases it. But I will leave it at that, since this is pointless to discuss anyway
 

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He is, but it won't be BF sadly.

I hope it comes out decent enough, but BF seems to draw larger crowds. (Though that could be my speculation here.)

Case in point compare this with Melty Quest. Melty was ok, but holding it up to KP then MQ has no leg to stand on.
If you are comparing them because of Remtairy they aren't the developer of MQ.

The best part about making the game you want to make: surrounding yourself with a fandom you actually enjoy...
... and then ditching that fandom because you feel like surrounding yourself with a different fandom now. Case in point Remtairy giving middle finger to battlefuck fans because they want to make vn or some other shit now :KEK:
 
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i think having your own discord and talking to people on it non stop is toxic to developing a game, youre propably going to get a circle jerk of unhelpfull opinions.
 

DrakeWasHere2

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If you are comparing them because of Remtairy they aren't the developer of MQ.
Pretty sure DLsite saids otherwise with game listing or the person he was working with is.

Sachinama probably was the one that did MQ, but he also worked with Rem on KP, and again, comparing them there is an obvious difference between two games.
 

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i think having your own discord and talking to people on it non stop is toxic to developing a game, youre propably going to get a circle jerk of unhelpfull opinions.
Discord communities make everything worse. However yes 24/7 player input is bad for development. Testing groups can help but listioning to a huge group of mouth breathers non-stop will never be beneficial for anyone.
 
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