mindoss75

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That was my experience as well. I've managed to clear the first two rooms in a single day, but every room after this was 1-room-per-day kinda deal, with the exception of the boss fight, where I took the risk of fighting with 26 fatigue and won. I was kinda surprised since the fight wasn't all that difficult, even with me wasting some turns before realizing the gimmick.

I was playing on Warden, with a build that I've intended to be Mind+AGI, but by the end of floor 3 was more like AGI+STR, and finally ended up as AGI+Charm, because of the strip club, which I had to use a lot, due to some poor planning and non existing income. Took me 34 game days, but I've managed to get the Empress ending as a complete virgin.

One thing that playthrough taught me, which I'll be sure to make use of going forward, was the value of saving Order boosting edicts for emergencies. While the utility of saving yourself from reaching 0 Order is rather obvious, I can't stress how big of a difference it was to fight some tougher rooms at, say, 60 vs 40 Order.
Can you give me any tips for a pure fighter/strength build?

Are the side jobs required to keep things in check? I've tried doing the receptionist job but it only give back a single order. Doesn't seem like its worth the money I spent to unlock it.

The Bartender job give me very little money for the time spent on it.

I know i'm missing a lot of info, but the question is what?

So far I've been playing for over 40 hrs. and have not finished the game a single time. I'm currently on day 40 and am having difficulties with enemies on the 2nd level. I tried going for a hand to hand, but that seems even more difficult than using a weapon.

In all my time playing I've never been able to accumulate enough money to purchase any of the Lv. 3 edicts. I Usually get stuck getting my ass kicked on lv 2/3 before I can get enough money.

What should I do? I really don't want to resort to cheating or dropping the difficulty, but i'm not really having fun with this?
 

smithsmithsmith

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So here's my issue with it as well, you kinda need to keep order low to have decent income since it gives a pretty big bonus to subsidies. The bar doesn't pay well unless you're that perfect level of slutty where she gets lots of tips but doesn't orgasm from everything and even then it's a lot of busywork to keep it going. You're also at the mercy of riot RNG (since all your repaired income sources like the bar or workshop get broken during riots and need to be paid for again) untill you can clear level 2 and start insuring things but that also eats into your income.

There's a lot to juggle with the income system and honestly if you're not enjoying it at this point I'd just cheat money and try to not go too overboard with the passive training buffs before level 4 so you don't just steamroll everything. If you just need a little boost go search the thread for how to edit your bar reputation and lock it to 30 or so (fun fact it decays each day you don't work there so you really do need to work there every day in a normal playthrough if you want to keep the reputation bonus worth anything). Otherwise just use the usual RPGM save editors and give yourself 999999999.
 

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Can you give me any tips for a pure fighter/strength build?

Are the side jobs required to keep things in check? I've tried doing the receptionist job but it only give back a single order. Doesn't seem like its worth the money I spent to unlock it.

The Bartender job give me very little money for the time spent on it.

I know i'm missing a lot of info, but the question is what?

So far I've been playing for over 40 hrs. and have not finished the game a single time. I'm currently on day 40 and am having difficulties with enemies on the 2nd level. I tried going for a hand to hand, but that seems even more difficult than using a weapon.

In all my time playing I've never been able to accumulate enough money to purchase any of the Lv. 3 edicts. I Usually get stuck getting my ass kicked on lv 2/3 before I can get enough money.

What should I do? I really don't want to resort to cheating or dropping the difficulty, but i'm not really having fun with this?
Is this your first time playing? What difficulty, what are the titles you have EQUIPPED. I can give you some tips (ill edit this lol) but dont be afraid to fail.
 

mindoss75

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Is this your first time playing? What difficulty, what are the titles you have EQUIPPED. I can give you some tips (ill edit this lol) but dont be afraid to fail.
You may be shocked to here this, but i've probably put about 200hrs into this game through all of its update. I never complained before because I though to myself "well when the full game comes out it will probably be much easier". I was wrong.

I'm not afraid of failing, just tired of it. I'm currently on my 8th playthrough without getting to the end. I've been on warden difficulty since the start

Currently, I have the "softcore sadist" title equipped. I don't belie that I have any others that are worth equipping for battle.

Im running the lv. 2 defensive upgrade for the halberd.

Let me know if you need a list of all my titles.
 
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uncommonsence

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Are the side jobs required to keep things in check? I've tried doing the receptionist job but it only give back a single order. Doesn't seem like its worth the money I spent to unlock it.

The Bartender job give me very little money for the time spent on it.
Both sidejobs are long term invesments. You need to work on reputation to get solid return.
 

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Patch notes for 1.0.1f:

  • Added a 'Disable Blowjob Mouth' option to the Settings.
WOO!

Is there something I dont understand about getting toys in you? How do you trigger the nerds to do it, because either they go straight to footjobs or they just ignore me? Whats the condition you need to be in to trigger it?
Footjob requires mid-to-high cock desire, the toys only require high pussy/anal desire, so if you keep suppressing cock desire the nerds will gain the ability to insert toys but never try for a footjob. If they can get a footjob, in my experience they always will, to the exclusion of all else.
Or there's an option to disable footjobs entirely if they're not your thing, just like rimjobs.

How to get the scene that visitors touch boobs and titjob at receptionist side job.
The Receptionist job is kind of complicated. You've seen the normal visitors, who are just here for business, and the fans who have sparkles over their heads, want a handshake, and may or may not actually visit anybody? The number of fans you get increases with Fame. But there's a third kind, perverts, who have a chance of appearing based on Notoriety, and have a sort of a blush marker over their heads, who will ask for a kiss, grope, or handjob.

Problem is, Notoriety starts at zero. So how do you raise it? You get caught doing naughty things. Every time somebody is waiting in line while you're doing something sexy, they have a random chance of noticing. The chance is higher the closer they are to the front of the line, and higher if they're a fan because fans pay more attention, and I think it's higher for actual penetration and especially orgasm than it is for just groping. The first time somebody notices a thing, they get a little exclamation point over their head, and when they leave for the day your notoriety score goes up and increases the chance of perverts showing up in the future.

If a male visitor notices something when they already have an exclamation point up, and it's their first time at the counter today instead of coming back with their paperwork, then the exclamation point changes into a blush mark and when you greet them you can get sexy requests then too.

So the first few days working reception, nobody is going to try anything except for the goblins, but later in the game you'll have half your visitors asking for a blowjob and the other half seeing this and deciding to join in. You can get there faster if you call a bunch of people up to the counter, and then just ignore them while you play with the goblins instead of doing your job.

The limits as far as I'm aware (basing this on a few versions ago, might have been changed) are:
Karryn will never take her top off
Visitors will never come behind the counter, so visitors can only play with her top half
Karryn will never leave the counter, unless she runs out of energy which just gets her dragged into the bar storage room like any other F1 loss
Female visitors will never ask for anything other than a handshake, even if they're a fan and you're talking to them while drenched in cum with an entire goblin up your ass
 
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Nemesis Navro

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I'm on 1.0.1c and there are issues with the insurances not actually being active despite buying them. Have they been fixed since then?
 

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What does subduing the guards under the office do ? My guess is that they start showing as enemies ? how bad is that?
But i get gold every time i defeat them ? is that worthwhile? does it scale with levels or is it that just hindrance ?

Another thing : is Agi/str strongest? Agility gives evasion and most of the time you go first so you can trim enemies before they act. Skywer appears to be the strongest skill - it does great against bosses and with some rng also clears multiple enemies comparably to cleave.
 
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Nekopi, based on your experience with both combat and slut builds, how high should end game Agility Level be to ensure you always move first in combat (Note: Some enemy type like goblins have really high agility growth)

Endurance and Stamina both increase HP (Stamina 3 times more effective), so is Endurance needed for combat build or not (what I mean is do level scaled enemy crit you a lot ?)

Energy wise, is 40 energy (base + edicts upgrade, no increase in level) enough to carry you through the game or should I level it up a few time ?

It's been over a year since I last played so I have almost no memory regarding builds and stats (I presume the Stats role have been vastly overhauled over the year though)
Glad you asked! Alwats down to give tips.

So, regarding your build, i'm going to assume you are attacking with Halberd and doing a combat run, not unarmed so I will give tips regarding that.

Endgame agility should be higher, than most of your stats the highest, with Strn trailing behind, and after that DEX, MND and ENERGY. Stamina (Health) isn't that important for combat runs (I always end up having around 2500- 3000 max and that's honestly all you need).

The reason why I promote a Strn/Agi combat build is the use of Taunt, Focus, ki, and counter stance. This build is basically a counterattack killer while also dodging virtually everything. Also 40 energy is perfect. With a combat build you do a lot of counterattacking to finish foes (it also helps avoid the tripping from rouges and Overblow from Orcs).

Make sure you have enough crit chance, attack and evasion as those play a huge role in combat runs (although they passively lvl up alongside you so you should be fine). I may have missed some things and If I did, I'm down to answer what I can.
 

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What does subduing the guards under the office do ? My guess is that they start showing as enemies ? how bad is that?
But i get gold every time i defeat them ? is that worthwhile? does it scale with levels or is it that just hindrance ?
For positives you get good money for start, sparring partners for training yourself without dealing with inmates and getting lots of order that helps maximize income.

For negatives I just gonna quote good reply on my question above.

That "option" is really a trap for new players. Every time you agree to do it, guard aggression goes up, which makes them attack more, and increases chances they invade your office after masturbation.

And you won't be able to beat them while naked, horny and unarmed
I define it as good option for slutty karryn to train and possibly learn skills. Coz most inmates on lvl1 are total weaklings and "die" even from wrong attacks.
After you beat first boss and open bar it becomes not worthy.
 
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Glad you asked! Alwats down to give tips.

So, regarding your build, i'm going to assume you are attacking with Halberd and doing a combat run, not unarmed so I will give tips regarding that.

Endgame agility should be higher, than most of your stats the highest, with Strn trailing behind, and after that DEX, MND and ENERGY. Stamina (Health) isn't that important for combat runs (I always end up having around 2500- 3000 max and that's honestly all you need).

The reason why I promote a Strn/Agi combat build is the use of Taunt, Focus, ki, and counter stance. This build is basically a counterattack killer while also dodging virtually everything. Also 40 energy is perfect. With a combat build you do a lot of counterattacking to finish foes (it also helps avoid the tripping from rouges and Overblow from Orcs).

Make sure you have enough crit chance, attack and evasion as those play a huge role in combat runs (although they passively lvl up alongside you so you should be fine). I may have missed some things and If I did, I'm down to answer what I can.
I see. Thank you for the answer.
Do you mind give me an endgame save of your combat build for reference ? if possible a slut build one too (but that's not important for me right now).
Again, thank you very much.
 

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So far I've been playing for over 40 hrs. and have not finished the game a single time. I'm currently on day 40 and am having difficulties with enemies on the 2nd level. I tried going for a hand to hand, but that seems even more difficult than using a weapon.
I can certainly share some of my experiences. I doubt anything I did was optimal, but it did get me through, as a virgin no less so hey, it works well enough.

My very first attempt ended on level 2, in the room right after the slimes. I've accumulated too many passives, and my daily income was 500 at best, so buying edicts to power through was out of a question. However, I've earned a whole bunch of titles, and I've memorized some stuff like what type of enemies I'm likely to encounter in some of the rooms, which allowed me to play a little smarter. And whaddya know, the very next run was also my first game clear.

Are the side jobs required to keep things in check? No, not at all. I only did like 4 rounds in the bar and honestly, in the end, I would've been better off not building it at all. Base income is crap, and since I was trying to keep Karryn pure I couldn't earn too many tips, and the corruption increase also made me pay more to the nerds, so yeah, that was a poor investment. I think you can make the bar work, since increasing reputation for finishing your shifts does make the income a bit better, but I don't know if it's worth the time spent, especially if you're playing it safe. It probably takes too long to be actually worth it on a pure run, where speed is essential.
I didn't repair the reception at all (I think there's a title allowing you to earn some money from it, but I don't have it yet, and the baseline job doesn't seem very worthwhile), didn't do the toilet side job (obviously), BUT I did end up playing the stripper mini game about 12 times, mostly for the money because I've fucked up my income with bad decisions.
It does, if I'm not mistaken, prevent the floor 3 from rioting after you dance, and it's the least dangerous job; the passives you get from it aren't crippling, and I was earning about 400-500, which was more than my daily income, plus having charm was surprisingly useful in some of the later fights, so I actually quite liked this side job.

Hand to hand seems like it could be very strong, but looks like you really need the titles to make it good. I bet that there's more than the 2 I've gotten so far, and yet my unarmed combat is already boosted by like 20%, from the get-go, for free. I'll definitely give it a try soon, seems like an interesting choice.

I didn't get to tier 3 edicts on my run, far too expensive. Hell, the only tier 2's I was able to buy were defensive stance, willpower energy regain, smash, skewer, cleave, and AGI training, everything else was stuck on 1.
I don't think you can invest too much into training without the research edicts on floor 2 (which I've unlocked too late to make any difference in my run, in fact I think I've made things even more difficult for myself by reducing subsidies even more), which make training a lot cheaper.
You definitely need to pay a lot of attention to income and expense saving edicts. There's only a few you can take without making the game harder later on by causing riots or boosting guard aggression (which is a suicidal strategy).

This post is already getting ridiculously long, so I'll try to sum up my observations:
- AGIlity is great. Being able to go first (or twice in a row in some cases) is a colossal advantage in combat.
- Do not neglect income. You're very limited in what you can safely do in a pure run, so every little bit helps. I know risking low Order is a popular strategy, but that's exactly why I didn't do it - it's risky. I've tried to keep my Order at about 60-70 at all time, which decreased my income but definitely made a lot of battles significantly easier, which is important because one loss can lead to a fail spiral. I was stuck on low income the entire time, but looking back - it wasn't high Order which made it as bad as it was - poor edict choices were definitely the thing that messed me up. I've managed to avoid some of the bad choices I've made on my first run, but since this was also the first time I've gained access to floor 2 and 3 edicts, I've just made different mistakes instead, lol.
- Be very mindful of your fatigue and pleasure. I was able to avoid having Karryn masturbate the first few times my pleasure got too high, by just accepting that I'm going to start the day with 4-5% fatigue, but eventually the malus becomes too punishing to ignore. As long as you only masturbate in the office, it's okay. Fatigue will wreck your combat capabilities, but keeping your Order relatively high also makes fights easier, to a point where I was often able to fight one additional battle per day instead of being forced to rest. The highlight of this would be what I've experienced on floor 2, where I could only clear 1 room per day on lower Order, but with 70 I was able to clear the room right before the boss (which had a LOT of enemies) and clear the boss very easily, despite having 26% fatigue.
- Do make use of accessories, because even cheap, low tier ones offer a nice and useful boost. +10 attributes are very noticeable super early in the game. If you're maxing out STRength, getting the bonus accuracy seems like a must. I've missed a lot of attacks on later floors, and that's with having a lot more DEXterity than I initially wanted.
- Titles are extremely impactful, which is why as long as you've unlocked something - even a lost run isn't a waste of time. As my example - playing a dodge build, suddenly being able to reduce dodge stamina cost by 30% was a game changer. Considering that I've finished some fights with like 100 or less stamina, getting hit just one more time or being unable to dodge would've ended my run right there and then.
- Try to save some of the Order boosting edicts for emergencies (particularly the ones that offer 10-20 boost). They might be tempting to buy when you can spare some cash for them, especially since they often improve your Control as well, but being able to suddenly raise your Order by 20 when 2 or 3 of your floors suddenly riot can make all the difference.
- Also, Control. Fatigue cripples your combat abilities, fighting increases fatigue very quickly, and you also don't gain too much Order from fighting - that's a fairly bad mix, so Control will help you avoid having to take risky battles by allowing you to fight less - you don't want to suddenly build up 100 passives and lose a pure run to unlucky RNG. That being said - refrain from buying those edicts for as long as you can, since they generally tank your income.
- Also, really try to avoid unnecessary fights. As an example - after you clear the first slime room once (to remove the blocker), you can avoid having to ever fight here again if you're just quick enough with your movement. This will allow you to progress a lot more quickly and easily. You might still need to take some additional fights to improve your stats or increase Order, but it's still a useful tool to have just in case. Fight on your own terms.

I'm sure I've forgotten something, but hopefully it'll at least give you an idea on how to approach your playthrough, particularly by avoiding the worst of my own mistakes.
 
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