Well that would depend on how you want to beat him.Anyone got some tips(edits, skills, titles, etc) on how defeat the lizard boss in 3rd floor? and how do i edit the js. file so i don't lose stamina or fatigue when i run from a fight??
May you get an extra piece of chicken for free when you order wings next.
You can avoid Thugs on the First Floor as long as you want. They only spawn in specific rooms.Completed a 2nd Prisoner challenge run (aspiring hero -> galactic hero).
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I'd say game starts to get easier, but its still insultingly disrespectful to a player's time - a fact which is not helped by the dev's self-insert that takes the time to make fun of you, saying the purposefully vague mechanics are intended to screw you into failing over and over. (joke's on them, only failed once).
More to the point - fact that the vast majority of posts prefer to ask how to edit and cheat as opposed to bother with the game's asinine design choices, seems to support this.
for edicts: depends. do u want your karryn to be a slut or a pure warrior? we have both physical and sexual dmg in this game and technically each one has its own ending. I suggest searching the thread for "build", "slut", "pure" or "dex". u get a lot of recommendations. the options are quite diverse.Just start the game. I will appreciate advice about first edicts and early daily routine.
People asking for 100% saves/gallery are different from people asking for gameplay cheats.Also people looking for cheats doesn't mean anything. The most easiest games people ask for stuff like Gallery etc.
The biggest games in history people do gameplay cheats. So no, it doesn't mean anything. There are just people, that want to change the game to their liking. Nothing wrong with that but to act like this game is somehow unique in that is just dumb. This doesn't mean you cannot point out things, this game does wrong but cheats does not equal something. Especially if it comes with points that are just wrong in the first place. Not even to mention, that this here is a extremly small sample size of the playerbase.People asking for 100% saves/gallery are different from people asking for gameplay cheats.
So, no, it does mean something to a certain extent.
Well, no shit, there are things that make the game tedious or annoying so people want to change that which is the reason most people look to cheat in stuff like edicts/gold. OP was talking about those people, not the people who look for cheats that are purely for fun and not to avoid grind or decrease difficulty.There are just people, that want to change the game to their liking.
You're being very fallacious here as OP never claimed cheats alone proves something but that they support their argument when backed by many other points as well.This doesn't mean you cannot point out things, this game does wrong but cheats does not equal something.
That's just your opinion but they're not "wrong" just because you disagree with them.Especially if it comes with points that are just wrong in the first place.
You really went with Gold and Edicts as an Example? Isn't that the perfect example of "This is a Porn Game, I just don't want to deal with managing the Prison"? So I at least disagree completly with the example you provided here. Again are parts of the Game tedious or annoying? Sure. Is some information without reason hidden? Sure.Well, no shit, there are things that make the game tedious or annoying so people want to change that which is the reason most people look to cheat in stuff like edicts/gold. OP was talking about those people, not the people who look for cheats that are purely for fun and not to avoid grind or decrease difficulty.
Again, it doesn't support anything. The far majority never asks about anything. They download it, play it and move on.You're being very fallacious here as OP never claimed cheats alone proves something but that they support their argument when backed by many other points as well.
If somebody says something that is not correct, how is that my opinion? If I am telling you as an extreme example: "Hey you need to fight in the bar from the very start!" Would you not say that this is just wrong to do so? So that is the same reason why, when somebody says, when you fight Thugs on the first floor early, then I am going to point out that is just wrong to do so, since you can avoid them easy until you are Level 12.That's just your opinion but they're not "wrong" just because you disagree with them.
No, it's more of a, I enjoy the gameplay but I don't want to grind and spend hours just to gain a little of something.You really went with Gold and Edicts as an Example? Isn't that the perfect example of "This is a Porn Game, I just don't want to deal with managing the Prison"? So I at least disagree completly with the example you provided here.
Actually, a lot of information are hidden but you're heavily downplaying it.Again are parts of the Game tedious or annoying? Sure. Is some information without reason hidden? Sure.
Yeah, maybe because they can use the search function to look for the cheats or saves they want unlike some other people?Again, it doesn't support anything. The far majority never asks about anything. They download it, play it and move on.
Since you added that right after "cheats does not equal something", I thought you were referring it to that part of OP's point as "wrong".If somebody says something that is not correct, how is that my opinion? If I am telling you as an extreme example: "Hey you need to fight in the bar from the very start!" Would you not say that this is just wrong to do so?
Yeah but that's not an information that is clearly known by the player from the start, just like you're not aware that it's a trap to go all round build. You get to know about certain facts of the game through a lot of experience and some others only by digging through game files. So, you can't really blame them for that.So that is the same reason why, when somebody says, when you fight Thugs on the first floor early, then I am going to point out that is just wrong to do so, since you can avoid them easy until you are Level 12.
Removing the entire Managment System via Cheating, has nothing to do with grind. And let's not pretend, that we had people asking for 100% Saves with Gallery but the game doesn't have one.No, it's more of a, I enjoy the gameplay but I don't want to grind and spend hours just to gain a little of something.
If it was what you described, it would be, let me just google a 100% save so I can jump straight into all the sex scenes.
A lot? Not really. A lot of information you can gain via just talking with a lot of NPCs or Tooltips. But again, I have criticized the game, for hiding information without a good reason. So dunno how I am downplaying it.Actually, a lot of information are hidden but you're heavily downplaying it.
Maybe. I hardly doubt that but we can go in circles here.Yeah, maybe because they can use the search function to look for the cheats or saves they want unlike some other people?
I am sorry for the confusion then. My bad.Since you added that right after "cheats does not equal something", I thought you were referring it to that part of OP's point as "wrong".
I don't blame anybody. I did not blame them I just pointed out, that you can avoid fighting Thugs on the First Floor as long as you want. That doesn't change the fact, that they were wrong with it. Ok wrong is the probably the wrong word but dunno how to say it better. Aren't aware of the fact that you can avoid Thugs? Maybe I should say it like that. Again, I don't blame them. Also, let's pull a little back on the information part. A Player doesn't need to know everything. Should he get more, than the game is giving? Yes. But it also should not handhold you. Learning stuff should also be part of the experience. Even though I agree, having to look at code to understand certain aspects of the game is dumb.Yeah but that's not an information that is known by the player from the start, just like you're not aware that it's a trap to go all round build. You get to know about certain facts of the game through experience and some others by digging through game files. So, you can't really blame them for that.
PreachRemoving the entire Managment System via Cheating, has nothing to do with grind. And let's not pretend, that we had people asking for 100% Saves with Gallery but the game doesn't have one.
A lot? Not really. A lot of information you can gain via just talking with a lot of NPCs or Tooltips. But again, I have criticized the game, for hiding information without a good reason. So dunno how I am downplaying it.
Maybe. I hardly doubt that but we can go in circles here.
I am sorry for the confusion then. My bad.
I don't blame anybody. I did not blame them I just pointed out, that you can avoid fighting Thugs on the First Floor as long as you want. That doesn't change the fact, that they were wrong with it. Ok wrong is the probably the wrong word but dunno how to say it better. Aren't aware of the fact that you can avoid Thugs? Maybe I should say it like that. Again, I don't blame them. Also, let's pull a little back on the information part. A Player doesn't need to know everything. Should he get more, than the game is giving? Yes. But it also should not handhold you. Learning stuff should also be part of the experience. Even though I agree, having to look at code to understand certain aspects of the game is dumb.
i might be misunderstanding this, i'm a bit dumb most days, but there have been many people asking for "full saves" and that doesn't exist due to all the different builds that can be done. Many people have also asked for a "full save that unlocks the cg gallery" and well, there is no cg gallery. again sorry if i am misunderstanding.And let's not pretend, that we had people asking for 100% Saves with Gallery but the game doesn't have one.
Well I think it has more do to with the fact that English is not my native language, so sometimes it can be hard to understand what I mean. But yes, there is not a Gallery. The closest thing to a "full save" would be a Save in the Happy Ending mode or via Cheating unlocking everything. I was just pointing out, since there is not a usual unlock all Scenes save in this game, that people try to find other ways to get rid of other stuff (like managing the Prison) so that they can focus only on getting to the Sex stuff.i might be misunderstanding this, i'm a bit dumb most days, but there have been many people asking for "full saves" and that doesn't exist due to all the different builds that can be done. Many people have also asked for a "full save that unlocks the cg gallery" and well, there is no cg gallery. again sorry if i am misunderstanding.
You're not removing the entire management system by just say increasing the amount you get per day or enough to buy some skills and stuff you want. By 100% saves, I meant full slut Karryn who can engage in all sex scenes that aren't available when you're just starting the game and you'd need to work your way towards it even if you're removing the management aspect of the game.Removing the entire Managment System via Cheating, has nothing to do with grind. And let's not pretend, that we had people asking for 100% Saves with Gallery but the game doesn't have one.
I'm not talking about the tooltips that help you learn about certain mechanics and stuff but actual statistical information.A lot? Not really. A lot of information you can gain via just talking with a lot of NPCs or Tooltips. But again, I have criticized the game, for hiding information without a good reason. So dunno how I am downplaying it.
Sure but again, their claim wasn't "must fight this bar enemy or lose", they only said "impossible to fight them at this point of the game". So, in that context, no, they're not "wrong".I did not blame them I just pointed out, that you can avoid fighting Thugs on the First Floor as long as you want. That doesn't change the fact, that they were wrong with it.
I am sure, people only increase it a little bit and not giving themselfes limitless Edicts and money.You're not removing the entire management system by just say increasing the amount you get per day or enough to buy some skills and stuff you want. By 100% saves, I meant full slut Karryn which can engage in all sex scenes which aren't available when you're just starting the game and you'd need to work your way towards it even if you're removing the management aspect of the game.
So we agree on that specific part. Still wouldn't call that a lot but probably just viewpoint.I'm not talking about the tooltips that help you learn about certain mechanics and stuff but actual statistical information.
Then let me say it this way. Because they did not know, that you can avoid Thugs on the first floor as long as you want, they made the beginning of their run much harder than it had to be. Therefor they made a Statement with fights on the first floor how impossible they are, that could have been easily avoided. Better?Sure but again, their claim wasn't "must fight this bar enemy or lose", they only said "impossible to fight them at this point of the game". So, in that context, no, they're not "wrong".
Well, I don't when I'm actually playing the game just like a lot of people who cheat to simply lower difficulty/grind than to just cheese their way out with instant win button. Also, that was just one example, there are a lot of other cheats that don't involve the management system which still contributes to lowering difficulty/grind.I am sure, people only increase it a little bit and not giving themselfes limitless Edicts and money.
And you claimed that their statement was "wrong" which it isn't and avoiding the fight is an advice which is irrelevant to the point being made about the fight being impossible at the start so you're either forced to lose or completely avoid it which doesn't negate the point.Therefor they made a Statement with fights on the first floor how impossible they are, that could have been easily avoided.
You missed the part, in which I said, that wrong was the wrong word and rephrased it but here you are focusing on it still. Good job.And you claimed that their statement was "wrong" which it isn't and avoiding the fight is an advice which is irrelevant to the point being made about the fight being impossible at the start so you're either forced to lose or completely avoid it which doesn't negate the point.