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Thinking about it, that might be why Sadism is impossible to avoid on a pure fighter build. Even if Karryn stays a virgin, by the time she clears level five she won't want to leave. Where else could she act with such cruelty without consequences?

But it would be nice if you had some control over Sadism growth. I was thinking one way to do it would be if prisoners had a downed state like Karryn. You could finish them off and increase your Sadism level, or leave them be and risk them getting a second wind. Probably won't happen since it would seriously change the balance.
My prediction right now is that when you beat the boss of level 5, you get a choice of endings that works like the present selection when you subjugate each level, with the more 'pure' options locked if your slut level gets too high. They might also put on options/conditions based on your corruption level, and maybe a few other events like a pregnant end if you take too many creampies or something, or your sadism vs masochism values.

Stay mostly pure somehow, and you can return to working directly for his imperial majesty (as a sadistic exhibitionist most likely, but other than that normal). High slut level, high corruption, high sadism? You carry on the plans of the level 5 boss, ruling over your own private army of highly trained criminals/toys. High slut level, high masochism, lots of creampies? You forget the outside world and end up the prisoners' breeding cow for the rest of your life. Etc. Maybe a few others where you end up serving the charismatic shadow king of the prison, or where you quit your job as imperial secretary and stay on as an almost-professional warden but marry Tonkin.

If they do an anime for it like they are doing for Melty's Quest, they'll need to have a canon ending of sorts.
Every time I've seen a hentai based on an h-game, they don't bother following the entire plot but instead pick a handful of individual scenes that they want to animate in full.
That might just be because so few of them get the funding to go further than one or two episodes...

I have a question about Slut Level

What are the negative and positive effects of it? also what's max level?

I'm kinda fooling around alot, reached 173 slut level, and im kinda worried i might've went too far...
RamtairyKarryn.js has a series of constants at the top for slut level thresholds. Stage one is less than 20, stage two is 20-44, then 45-74, 75-124, and stage five is 125+. There's theoretically another level at 200+ but it's not used yet. I'm not sure of all the things slut level affects, and I know a lot of her reactions are based on passives specific to the situation instead of general sluttiness, but if you're above 125 then you're in the highest bracket the code allows for.

So far the main disadvantages to sluttiness are that the emperor doesn't send you as cool of presents, and your effective Charm is reduced for some reason. Also I think the mouth desire for kisses is reduced? But most of your other thresholds are only affected by specific passives and pose and stuff. Oh, and I think the effect of the cock stare skill is based on your slut level; when she's still pure it minimizes her desire for cock, cuts the target's pleasure, and has a high chance of making them angry, but when slut level is high it increases her cock desire and might make the target aroused.

It's things like this that bother me the most about this game: unlockables punishing the player instead of rewarding them.
One would think that Karryn would get resistance to staggers after being staggered a lot - nope, staggers are even more annoying and unfun stunlocks after you "win" the related title.
I get that it's supposed to be some kind of "difficulty progression" but the enemy scaling already does that well enough. At the very least the negative effect titles should also be counterbalanced by some positive effect as well - even stupidly simple ones, like +1 Charm.

I'm not bitching about the game being "too hard" - I asked for it by selecting the hardest difficulty - I just want to feel progressively stronger instead of progressively weaker.
Positive unlocks are called titles, negative unlocks are called passives. Every passive represents a way in which Karryn is losing herself and succumbing to the nature of the prison (and as such increases your slut level by 1), titles represent the things she's learned that will help her survive here, maintain control of herself, either remain pure or whore it up on her own terms instead of the prisoners' terms. The effects of an equipped title can be a mixed bag, but an unequipped title is always pure positive, and a passive is always pure negative (for Karryn; it might be a positive thing for the player if you want to see her fucked more).

If you let control hit zero you get a bad end to that playthrough, but when you start a new game you get to keep your titles while discarding your passives, so each successive playthrough gets easier, especially if you're trying new things each time. I think that's intended to be the only way to survive Prisoner mode in the finished game.

It's a system that isn't seen elsewhere, and it portrays the slow, involuntary downward spiral of corruption better than any other h-game I've seen; you're not just following a simple linear script, and it isn't just the player intentionally forcing the character to turn into a slut (and in fact they take measures to prevent you from being able to do that), instead you try to stay pure, inevitably fail, and every time you slip things get just a little bit darker.

If that's not what you want, this probably isn't the game for you. Or you could mod your own files to change the effects of passives you don't like, or remove them manually from your character. But it's a thing nobody else is really doing, and Rem is doing it pretty well.

How to get money?
I dont understand about the financial mechanic in this game!
Cheat Engine , my friend
Using cheat engine on rpgmaker games is really hard if you don't know what you're doing. It's easier to just change a single value in your save file so when the game loads it you have more money than when you left. works well if you don't have your own program for it.
 
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i tried RpgMakerSaveEdit and saveeditonline to change the exp and gold but every time i try to load a changed savefile it is unloadable. pls help
 
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i hate when she work in bar. To slow and to much intricacy and how i can said with her type ? touch her in battle ? noway she will kill any do that with her right in time.
 

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hmm ok.. thanks guys for the saves you gave me before.. but i need one with full lewd skills, the one i got never had vagina and anal skils... would any of you be kind to share their saves with all skills.
 

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i tried RpgMakerSaveEdit and saveeditonline to change the exp and gold but every time i try to load a changed savefile it is unloadable. pls help
It cannot be more simple. Go to www . saveeditonline . com, Load the save file you want to edit (file2.rpgsave in my case). Change the gold value
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Donwload the save, and overwrite the original file.
I do not see a way to edit experience though, it may be that by touching something you shouldn't you are breaking the save???
I have been doing it for a while without any issues, so not sure how your file is unloadable
 
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i tried RpgMakerSaveEdit and saveeditonline to change the exp and gold but every time i try to load a changed savefile it is unloadable. pls help
Exp is almost certainly not using the system from a normal rpgmaker game, since this tracks each stat separately. If you changed the number labeled exp to a value the game doesn't expect, that could easily break things. Likewise there might be a ceratain range of valid gold values and going outside that might not work? I know I've changed my starting amount from 2,000 to 200,000 easily without any problems but if you sent it right up to like, a hundred billion or something it might mess you up.
 
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So I got the endless rioting bug on level 1 in 0.6h and wondering if that is fixed in 0.6j and if anyone knows a fix for my current save? using a save editor to change the switch on level 1 isnt working for me. Thanks in advance.
 

Suncatcher42

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hmm ok.. thanks guys for the saves you gave me before.. but i need one with full lewd skills, the one i got never had vagina and anal skils... would any of you be kind to share their saves with all skills.
There is no vaginal skill in the current game build. If you load a save file that has the vaginal skill, the person you got it from got it by hacking, and if you ever use that skill your game will crash because it's telling the program to look up instructions that haven't been written and display art that doesn't exist. We've had at least a dozen "bug reports" already from people who downloaded a save that activated things which aren't supposed to be in the game yet.

You can get the anal skill by just having your record screen say you've been fucked in the ass 25 times. If your save file has all the old passives already, you can go into any battle, release butt and cock desire while keeping mouth and pussy low, lie down, and unlock it yourself instantly.
 

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Finally got a chance to sit down and really play .6.
Made it to floor 3 on prisoner as a virgin without any trouble but it fell apart quickly after that point. The nerd debuff makes vaginal a constant danger and I couldn't keep up with the riots while also being skittish about the possibility of sex. Sorry Karryn.
Overall I like the increased difficulty. It bothers me that agi still feels like kind of a god stat and skewer is still clearly the best attack skill but that's a personal nitpick.
Far and away my biggest issue with the game is same one I had last patch. The minigames just take way, way, WAY too long. I genuinely feel like half my playtime this patch was spent listening to that damn bar theme.
 
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Thanks for the coding tips, man! This really made things fun for my version.

Question: if i'd add that "added line", do i need to add the stuff below it as well aka //Difficulty prefixes, or the "added line" you put in there will be enough, yes?

Also, I agree with you; the search-function here works brilliantly, imo!

One of the best RPGMs this be, that's for certain! SOOO addicted to this!
 

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Jesus, I can't remember too many games that got this many reviews/comments, especially during early access/development. Could I ask what makes this game so special? Genuinely asking, no hate.

I played it at quite an early stage and it seemed fine. Tsundere MC, ok art, unique-ish battle system made for what looked to be a promising game. But this is blowing the hell up. What's going on?
 

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Jesus, I can't remember too many games that got this many reviews/comments, especially during early access/development. Could I ask what makes this game so special? Genuinely asking, no hate.

I played it at quite an early stage and it seemed fine. Tsundere MC, ok art, unique-ish battle system made for what looked to be a promising game. But this is blowing the hell up. What's going on?
Have you been living under a rock all 2020 mate? Of course it's all about TONKIN!

But seriously, visual preference aside this game has got promise in terms of build diversity and potential depth of an actual game, not just all about the lewds. Dev's however still playing around with balancing the systems but it's kinda shaping up to be a pretty solid game come final release. Then again, it's the potential, so we'll see.

EDIT: Oops, how could I have forgotten TONKIN!? Have I told you about TONKIN?
 

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That's true as well. I think the main thing that's annoying me at the moment is that core systems of the game are being changed around just because some guy was like "lol look i'm big brain".
I have to correct you there, it's :
"Look, i'm cheating, get on my level peasants !"

THERE'S NO WAY TO GET 0 CONTROL ON FLOOR 1 ON PRISONER DIFFCULTY !


Though, it's just rumor, it seems Rem never specify why he added such change. But I highly suspect it's because of that cheater.
This change he made just render the whole level scaling stuff non-existent.
This game, if you play it the way it's intended for right now, badend farming, become very easy, no need for planning at all, compared to before.
 
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I have to correct you there, it's :
"Look, i'm cheating, get on my level peasants !"

THERE'S NO WAY TO GET 0 CONTROL ON FLOOR 1 ON PRISONER DIFFCULTY !

Though, it's just rumor, it seems Rem never specify why he added such change. But I highly suspect it's because of that cheater.
This change he made just render the whole level scaling stuff non-existent.
This game, if you play it the way it's intended for right now, badend farming, become very easy, no need for planning at all, compared to before.
Now you are looking through your preference glasses. Now I get it, you liked to play a specific way, that got taking away and that sucks. Also I agree that enemy scaling is now less of a thing. But you don't need to farm badends now to have success. People did that already anyway and my first playtest showed on a fresh save, you can still stay up to 20 days on the First Floor before you actually run out of order. That is more then enough time to do stuff.
 

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I have to correct you there, it's :
"Look, i'm cheating, get on my level peasants !"

THERE'S NO WAY TO GET 0 CONTROL ON FLOOR 1 ON PRISONER DIFFCULTY !

Though, it's just rumor, it seems Rem never specify why he added such change. But I highly suspect it's because of that cheater.
This change he made just render the whole level scaling stuff non-existent.
This game, if you play it the way it's intended for right now, badend farming, become very easy, no need for planning at all, compared to before.
Actually... there IS a way to do exactly that...

Starting Control on Prisoner Mode on 0.6 is -6.

Then there's a title called "Excellent Administrator", which, when equipped, HALVES the Control Value, whether Positive or negative. With it equipped after a day, your control drops to -3. It also boosts your Income by 5%, while also making it impossible to gain Order from Battles.

And get this, any Edicts you grab AFTER this will raise control linearly. In other words, the +1 Basic Training Guard Edict and the +2 Kitchen Edict will, together, take you to 0 Control, which means your Order becomes a static value.

How do you get that title? 11 days at max Order, super easy to do on Secretary Mode, and then you can take the title in Prisoner Mode, and do what I described, and farm forever. At least, until the Anarchy thing was thrown in.

Absolutely NO cheating required to achieve this.

Not to mention that the guy that did this, btw, is one of the semi-official bug testers... so it's kind of their thing to look for exploits... >.>"
 
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Starting Control on Prisoner Mode on 0.6 is -6.
I already mentioned this 2 times, starting control Prisoner mode 0.6 is still -9
You only get -6 by exploiting save game transferring fron 0.5 to 0.6. This is on Rem to fix, it's been like this for a week already. Yet i just downloaded the recently uploaded version, still not fixed.

is one of the semi-official bug testers
naruhodo, it's his job as bug tester, and he make us of bug to exploit the game, so not actually cheater, but beater. Where have I seen this term again ?

Edit 2: wait, -9 halved is -5 + all the edics is exactly 0, yeah, my bad. I'm, really sorry
 
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Now you are looking through your preference glasses. Now I get it, you liked to play a specific way, that got taking away and that sucks. Also I agree that enemy scaling is now less of a thing. But you don't need to farm badends now to have success. People did that already anyway and my first playtest showed on a fresh save, you can still stay up to 20 days on the First Floor before you actually run out of order. That is more then enough time to do stuff.
I cannot stress enough how flawed the newgame + is, you can literally farm for mind stat (hardest combat stat to train which also help slut build plentily) and be a god of the game regarless of game's version.

Also, forcing Karryn to lose and receive a divine intervention from us players in the form of newgame + is meta and breaking the 4th wall, i will not be part of that.
 
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