Others Kincaid [2024.03 Hotfix 1] [Cookiedraggy]

[jegg890]

i am yet to learn why so much people are agaisnt the dommcaid change, i know a lot of you guys are into rapeish stuff and that it has been a staple of basically all platforming games that have come out. But really, calling the game a complete failure and stop supporting it because you now need to press a button to initiate sex? the dialogues might be cringy, but thats basically all dialogues in any kind of pornographic media. Its inevitable. Even the "deep" story they are going with is most probably going to be cringy at some point.

Cookie is making a really great job with this game, the animations are good, the game has actual gameplay and its not just a jumping simulator, doesnt have a bug and the ones that are found get eliminated almost immediatly.

this is a blessing considering how many furry games get dropped in 3 months, or take years to update, or some are just outright scams like BBS.

 

[b800047]

quick question tho: where's the second to last scene? i got the care bear in the new area but don't know where that one is...anyone know?

edit: found it...its the shower scene you get after fixing the water pipes down below...very gud very gud gud gud

 

[sandwichboy81]

What's with the severe asshole design?
Like holy shit, this game is missing so many modern conveniences that just about every Metroidvania has these days.

 

[jegg890]

What's with the severe asshole design?
Like holy shit, this game is missing so many modern conveniences that just about every Metroidvania has these days.

Like what exactly? game is still in a rather early development.

 

[Zerniocc]

quick question tho: where's the second to last scene? i got the care bear in the new area but don't know where that one is...anyone know?
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edit: found it...its the shower scene you get after fixing the water pipes down below...very gud very gud gud gud

can you send me ur save file?

 

[Freezewood369]

i don't know about the others but i really love it how is going,the character is naughty and i love how she taunt the enemies verbally and physically too so yeah,the levels and the soundtrack is good too,the design of the enemies are good too,some enemies are cute too,the game looks very fine for me,a part the game going to have more animations and more times to work with it to looks more cool thanks to the new system,the exploration and the backtracking is fine too,we need more secrets and some cool easter eggs hidden on the maps,probably a hidden boss fight too to enjoy and some good story like what happened in others games.

¿the creator of this game says before he played iconoclasts?,the design of the levels and the two secret bosses of that game are nice to try to create an idea to make some secrets bosses in this game,probably kincaid found a secret magic mirror hidden in someplace and confront herself like a doppelganger boss,there are so much cool things to add to the game so is not a bad idea,i love it so i wait when this game get fully completed and finished to enjoy all of their secrets inside of it.

 

[sandwichboy81]

Like what exactly? game is still in a rather early development.

There's no inventory to see what upgrades you have. There's no crouch shooting. (Kincaid stands up to shoot if you're crouched, which most games don't do even if you don't have directional aiming.) There's no skip for pixel scenes. There's no back button. You don't even keep your map reveals if you die There is no "save and quit" option. The map is bunk af. Multiple areas don't even have a map. The map isn't always accurate in areas that do. The map is also designed such that many areas it shows as being connected aren't really.

 

[jegg890]

There's no inventory to see what upgrades you have. There's no crouch shooting. (Kincaid stands up to shoot if you're crouched, which most games don't do even if you don't have directional aiming.) There's no skip for pixel scenes. There's no back button. You don't even keep your map reveals if you die There is no "save and quit" option. The map is bunk af. Multiple areas don't even have a map. The map isn't always accurate in areas that do. The map is also designed such that many areas it shows as being connected aren't really.

is the inventory even necesary? i see it more as a extra, considering the upgrades are pretty simple, but im sure it'll be added later. the game will have a full overhaul and change how the whole map looks like, thats why some parts of the map are not visible. and i do aggree with you on the scenes and map, the scenes should be skipable and the map really does need to be better, not just white and blue.

 

[TakosMilGrau]

i am yet to learn why so much people are agaisnt the dommcaid change, i know a lot of you guys are into rapeish stuff and that it has been a staple of basically all platforming games that have come out. But really, calling the game a complete failure and stop supporting it because you now need to press a button to initiate sex? the dialogues might be cringy, but thats basically all dialogues in any kind of pornographic media. Its inevitable. Even the "deep" story they are going with is most probably going to be cringy at some point.

Cookie is making a really great job with this game, the animations are good, the game has actual gameplay and its not just a jumping simulator, doesnt have a bug and the ones that are found get eliminated almost immediatly.

this is a blessing considering how many furry games get dropped in 3 months, or take years to update, or some are just outright scams like BBS.

I also don't understand, made a post criticizing this backlash when it was still fresh, and I still stand on the opinion that people are overexaggerating about this (although I have to admit that I was very unpolite on my first post).
It's not like subcaid was, like, really rapey or anything: the hold animations were all "consensual" enough, and were mostly Kincaid trying to resist the urge rather than being forced into it, plus the sex animations and dialog on gameover screens didn't seem rapey at all, on all of them Kincaid just seem to be enjoying it. Just compare Kincaid with, I dunno, Pure Onyx, where you can clearly see the girl being forced into sex, and not fully enjoying the sex because it's not consensual, the difference is day and night.
And gameplay wise, you weren't even forced either, you literally had to wait 2-3 seconds during the hold animation in order for the sex animation to start, pretty much same thing as having to initiate the animation by choice. Either that, or people are really bad at mashing left and right.

I understand not liking the changes, people have their fantasies and stuff, if you want to see rough foreplay, good for you, but since the domcaid build this thread has turned into a complaint box with everyone making the same complaint as if it was the end of the world. Games where >everything< was changed, with no need to, like the LOK Remake, I can understand the thread turning into pure complaint, but this one is way out of control, honestly.

 

[dragonsix6969]

if you do not understand the change in gameplay, well then the game can be made so-so, why bother.

 

[Zawkian_Puppy]

I also don't understand, made a post criticizing this backlash when it was still fresh, and I still stand on the opinion that people are overexaggerating about this (although I have to admit that I was very unpolite on my first post).
It's not like subcaid was, like, really rapey or anything: the hold animations were all "consensual" enough, and were mostly Kincaid trying to resist the urge rather than being forced into it, plus the sex animations and dialog on gameover screens didn't seem rapey at all, on all of them Kincaid just seem to be enjoying it. Just compare Kincaid with, I dunno, Pure Onyx, where you can clearly see the girl being forced into sex, and not fully enjoying the sex because it's not consensual, the difference is day and night.
And gameplay wise, you weren't even forced either, you literally had to wait 2-3 seconds during the hold animation in order for the sex animation to start, pretty much same thing as having to initiate the animation by choice. Either that, or people are really bad at mashing left and right.

I understand not liking the changes, people have their fantasies and stuff, if you want to see rough foreplay, good for you, but since the domcaid build this thread has turned into a complaint box with everyone making the same complaint as if it was the end of the world. Games where >everything< was changed, with no need to, like the LOK Remake, I can understand the thread turning into pure complaint, but this one is way out of control, honestly.

It is just the feel of the game, having us initiate the sex just completely breaks any feeling thaat we the player are the submissive partner, in summary, the game completely changed to a dom centric game. Doesnt make it bad objectively, just not for the subby players, and considering the game was built on that subby system it now feels like some sort of mod to a good game.
But in time, the game will be changed to fit its dom centric gameplay and will feel much better. And fitting, until the game FEELS like was made for dom focused play it will be weird. Like mentioned before, a dominant player mod basically.

Also people are upset because its rare to find a genuinely fun, high quality platformer game with dub focus thats not a male being assaulted by females but the other way around.
but i guess its just my perpective... The feel of the enemy being the one to start the sex vs being us. Totally changed the feel, and the way we think and play the game., and dont even get me started on how risk was handled, made a sense of sex being a punishment or consequence, that plays into the subby mind aswell.

Sorry for the lengthy post, wasnt my intention but i just want everyone that ndoesnt get, at least to understand why so many people disliked it, i didnt even mention that one of main reasons they changed was because of being too much work to design mid combat grabs, and probably the "Rapey vibes" that patreon loves to ban because of.

Have a great night!

 

[dragonsix6969]

Porn_Jesus
sorry for saying on your perfect game.

 

[dragonsix6969]

without risk, you can not create a good game unfortunately.

 

[J55555]

I also don't understand, made a post criticizing this backlash when it was still fresh, and I still stand on the opinion that people are overexaggerating about this (although I have to admit that I was very unpolite on my first post).
It's not like subcaid was, like, really rapey or anything: the hold animations were all "consensual" enough, and were mostly Kincaid trying to resist the urge rather than being forced into it, plus the sex animations and dialog on gameover screens didn't seem rapey at all, on all of them Kincaid just seem to be enjoying it. Just compare Kincaid with, I dunno, Pure Onyx, where you can clearly see the girl being forced into sex, and not fully enjoying the sex because it's not consensual, the difference is day and night.
And gameplay wise, you weren't even forced either, you literally had to wait 2-3 seconds during the hold animation in order for the sex animation to start, pretty much same thing as having to initiate the animation by choice. Either that, or people are really bad at mashing left and right.

I understand not liking the changes, people have their fantasies and stuff, if you want to see rough foreplay, good for you, but since the domcaid build this thread has turned into a complaint box with everyone making the same complaint as if it was the end of the world. Games where >everything< was changed, with no need to, like the LOK Remake, I can understand the thread turning into pure complaint, but this one is way out of control, honestly.

I think the over-exaggeration is an inevitability due to the nature of porn games. They are made to combine the normal entertainment of games with an appeal to people's desires. The problem is, adding human desire to a game is much like painting with black: it kind of just overpowers everything. To a developer, the porn may seem as simply one aspect of the game, but to many players, the game is nothing more than a medium through which they view the porn. For this reason, changes to the porn will have a greater impact on the players than any gameplay change.

However, I doubt very many people will completely abandon the game. The gameplay is good, and the art is good. To me, the change just makes the way the porn is handled uninteresting and gives it zero replayability, but the art is still at least worth observing a few times.

Unlike LOK, the complaints here are temporary. They mainly come from the illusion that the game can still be reverted if enough people complain. However, in a couple months, when it becomes more than apparent that there is no going back to sub mechanics, I'm sure the thread will die down again to just the occasional someone needing help finding something in the game.

 

[jegg890]

It is just the feel of the game, having us initiate the sex just completely breaks any feeling thaat we the player are the submissive partner, in summary, the game completely changed to a dom centric game. Doesnt make it bad objectively, just not for the subby players, and considering the game was built on that subby system it now feels like some sort of mod to a good game.
But in time, the game will be changed to fit its dom centric gameplay and will feel much better. And fitting, until the game FEELS like was made for dom focused play it will be weird. Like mentioned before, a dominant player mod basically.

Also people are upset because its rare to find a genuinely fun, high quality platformer game with dub focus thats not a male being assaulted by females but the other way around.
but i guess its just my perpective... The feel of the enemy being the one to start the sex vs being us. Totally changed the feel, and the way we think and play the game., and dont even get me started on how risk was handled, made a sense of sex being a punishment or consequence, that plays into the subby mind aswell.

Sorry for the lengthy post, wasnt my intention but i just want everyone that ndoesnt get, at least to understand why so many people disliked it, i didnt even mention that one of main reasons they changed was because of being too much work to design mid combat grabs, and probably the "Rapey vibes" that patreon loves to ban because of.

Have a great night!

Dont really understand you fully, all animations clearly kincaid is being the sub, its not like this change suddenly made all animations grab onto the enemy and start riding them cowgirl-style, the only change would be that kincaid just goes up and offers herself for the sex.

 

[floran]

only furries would make this much drama

 

[Lestev]

Dont really understand you fully, all animations clearly kincaid is being the sub, its not like this change suddenly made all animations grab onto the enemy and start riding them cowgirl-style, the only change would be that kincaid just goes up and offers herself for the sex.

Yeah, beating an enemy to a pulp and then offering them pity sex is the subbiest thing ever.

 

[Zawkian_Puppy]

Yeah, beating an enemy to a pulp and then offering them pity sex is the subbiest thing ever.

LOL yeah its what im saying, what is the real submissive act?
being beaten and then getting fucked VS Beating someone to unconsciousness and then offering to be fucked?
The player now is either a power bottom or a top.

Dont really understand you fully, all animations clearly kincaid is being the sub, its not like this change suddenly made all animations grab onto the enemy and start riding them cowgirl-style, the only change would be that kincaid just goes up and offers herself for the sex.

Also, "Yet" is the word missing in your reply. Its just a matter of time before that also changes, the animations to a more dominant kincaid with beaten enemies you offer sex to
The name of the change is DOMCAID for crying out loud. The only reason kincaid is seem subby now in domcaid is because they using the SUB animations, to redo the sub animations would be absurd, so from here on out it will look much more of dom player game.

 

[justarandompasserby]

cant download it. no links work.

 

[QSharpe]

Pirates be b*tching I guess.

If you don't like the development of the game so far, you're free to disregard it and look up and pirate other games that suit your specific tastes.

Sorry that not all of us have yiffbux we can throw around willy nilly. Also you know your second line there about finding something else is a bullshit argument. If there was another game out there that catered to us, and had reasonably similar quality to it, we wouldn't be complaining about it in the first place. It's hard enough to find a game that has a female VA in it that isn't a pack of recycled voice clips, let alone good frame by frame animation. The game took a big step backwards and the justification for it has not been able to hold water. Furthermore, people will defend things if they invested their money into it, even if it is terrible. Some people have dumped a lot of money into supporting this game, and I wouldn't be surprised if they are telling themselves it will work out in the end, while suppressing their dislike for the change.

Just compare Kincaid with, I dunno, Pure Onyx, where you can clearly see the girl being forced into sex, and not fully enjoying the sex because it's not consensual, the difference is day and night.

I decided to download Pure Onyx just to see if it was in any way a good substitute for Kincaid. It isn't even close. The sex scenes in Pure Onyx are bland, by-the-numbers CG animations without much personality. The inescapable reality is that games like Kincaid are islands of quality in a sea of shit, and I don't want to watch it sink beneath the waves like so many other games.