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I might be wrong but I feel like Nomo's art is the only thing keeping this game somewhat alive at this point. At least that's the case for me personally.
So it took them 4.5 years to reach 0.12 and almost a year from 0.11 to 0.12. Guess that implies there's still 33 to 99 more years to go. Can't wait to play the completed version! (literally) 
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Remember, actual earnest development of KoD started in 2016 -- it wasn't until 2017 for the first WIP release. Hence, at least a year should be added to that figure. ^^' Goodness gracious, thankfully, Hreinn Games got those new art assets to go live and the streamlined programming down finally (which will accelerate their development they say). So good news! If Hreinn Games doesn't throw in the towel and stick to their guns, you'll only need to wait between 16 to 50 years or so at most before KoD gets completed! Hooray!
You should still be alive to be able to play the game by then if nothing bad happens to you. You're welcome. 
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In 50 years there will be no system anymore, were you could play the game on.Remember, actual earnest development of KoD started in 2016 -- it wasn't until 2017 for the first WIP release. Hence, at least a year should be added to that figure. ^^' Goodness gracious, thankfully, Hreinn Games got those new art assets to go live and the streamlined programming down finally (which will accelerate their development they say). So good news! If Hreinn Games doesn't throw in the towel and stick to their guns, you'll only need to wait between 16 to 50 years or so at most before KoD gets completed! Hooray!
( And you don't want to jerk off in a museum. (Belive me.))
- Feb 25, 2018
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Now answer me this, how can an h-game have better writing than a majority of AAA titles? Do me one better, how can they make a more compelling story with interesting characters, while only having a very small fraction of the income?
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It can't be that hard. I've been doing it for four years running two erotic roleplaying campaigns through Roll20 and Discord.
Well, I personally disagree with the writing being better, but that's my opinion there.
And honestly, most AAA games are stuck in a standard of "What make the most money", and producers aren't willing to risk anything outside the "known" safe development choices. A developer that's not forced to follow executive guidelines can do whatever they want.
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Yeah, most AAA games and even big online games don't have good stories these days. They're mostly just filled with BS and appeasement crap.
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You sound like a super fun person. Just wanted to say that.
Have an awesome day, Enigmanic! Cheers!
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Thanks. I'm always looking for an opportunity to get involved with an adult game project as a writer since I literally have years of story and lore content written for my campaigns.You sound like a super fun person. Just wanted to say that.
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I also thought the writing was a little weak a the beginning too, but once you get into it there are some really good character moments and world that draw you in the more you read about it.
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I'd like to assume you are just making a joke but I've been on the internet long enough so just in case: you do know that's not how those numbered versions work in most porn games right? Usually a game jumps a number whenever substantial enough content/systems has been added but it's NOT an indication of how much total work has been done up until now.So it took them 4.5 years to reach 0.12 and almost a year from 0.11 to 0.12. Guess that implies there's still 33 to 99 more years to go. Can't wait to play the completed version! (literally)
Version 0.12 is not 12% of the final product, games might go from 0.55 to 0.56 and then to 1.0 very next patch because that was all that needed to be done for the final game, it's pretty much never a percentage of work needed for the final version (whether the dev calculated that or not).
That being said sometimes making porn games is more lucrative than finishing them, so who knows maybe you are right on the money with the time table. Even if the devs aren't greedy you grow attached to projects you work on and just don't want them to end. Good news is this particular dev at least fully released a porn game before so I'd say there are better chances for this project.
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You make a valid point about the version numbering. As for the rest, that may be a little naive or optimistic.
Noxian Nights was made using RPGMaker relying heavily on stock assets using parody versions of existing characters from League of Legends. It didn't take a lot of ingenuity or creativity. Kingdom of Deception is a different beast.
It has original art for the characters and the scenes but some of the characters, including the protag, are still parodies of girls from LoL. The main story isn't even halfway through after at least four years. At this point the game is a joke. There is a big difference between "not wanting it to end' and actually finishing the story in the first place.
As someone who supported KoD for 4 years I can tell you they are milking this project for the money. It has become obvious that they don't have a cohesive plan for completing the story. They are keeping some of their supporters occupied with lewd content while making stuff up as they go along. A responsible project manager and game designer would have at least an outline of the entire story arc mapped out before diving into actual development. A responsible project manager would not allow his programmer to slack off for several months before actually doing any work resulting in an update being delayed three times. If Nomo, NDS and Monsinne were doing their jobs right and actually cared about finishing the game they would have done things differently. They would have earned more trust and faith from their supporters which would have lured in more supporters to help expedite development.
Nomo is a great artist but unfortunately his art is the only thing keeping KoD alive. This game project is a dumpster fire that emits attractive smoke.
Y'all yelling "KOD has gone down the drain" but they literally doubled the scenes in the game with the last patch. Like, if you truly think the game is over and done for - leave the game, forget about it. There was obviously work put into the last update.
I don't get why people still keep on bashing the devs when shit is getting done - by their own pace.
I don't get why people still keep on bashing the devs when shit is getting done - by their own pace.
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The amount of content in the game shoudn't have taken four years especially when so many sex scenes are just recycled assets. So many of the sex scenes are pretty much the same stuff over and over. Furthermore, most of KoD's supporters originally started following the game for the story.
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Well that's not unheard of, people tend to LOVE negativity. In this situation it's kinda justified, but also kinda not, because they were crying nonstop for 8 months or so even before the update, playing oracles and accusing devs for nothing. Like the empty accusations of milking people's wallets and being a scam project.
In the end devs indeed slacked off, except for Nomo and his good artwork(which was criticized constantly too btw, with extreme prejudice). The amount of work looks like coder/s worked exclusively around the deadlines they missed, and it's nowhere near 3/4 of the year worth of work. There's nothing special to do in code, all they have to do is write text and insert new images in code, at worst. It's ctrl+c ctrl+v kind of work, everything they need is already there in their own past work, not something incredibly hard, yet they didn't do it in time. It's most likely a student syndrome, as i wrote somewhere in the past - devs probably just delayed their work without any good reason nor malicious intent, just because they didn't feel like working too fast and thought it'll be easy-peasy to do even close to the update release date. Of course, when the time has come to work they were unable to do it fast enough, having a lazy personality, as i assume.
It's hard to really say people to shut up with negativity, because they have some right to bash the devs for lazy coding, but it's also hard to support all the crying, as they often tend to go way off the rails. Like saying that Nomo's art is bad, or that without Sierra the game is unreadable and disgusting, or that devs are evil scammers. Or i remember that one time when some guy said this kind of delay should be illegal.
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You make excellent points but I don't think most of the 'crying' is unjustified.
- Nomo's art is generally great but for the previous update he made a bunch of art assets of lesser quality hoping he would be able to make some repeatable h-scenes faster but those new art assets looked pretty bad.
- Regarding Sierra Lee.. While she was involved, the game had decent sex content and an interesting story unfolding. Without her, there's been plenty of sex scenes without enough diversity or originality and the story/side story arcs have taken a distant backseat.
This game is very different from when development started, when people initially became interested in the game. The devs also have a habit of ignoring the concerns of supporters who care about the overall quality of the game while catering to those supporters who only care about the sex content.
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I wouldn't even mind that if they at least gave us timely updates with good h scenes. Getting an update once every 6-12 months makes it difficult to stay interested in this game. Hopefully they'll put out updates faster now
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Continuing my habit of sitting in the middle of an argument.
I've never been a fan of the "doomsday" posts where people declare that it's all over, so everyone else should stop enjoying it. Even if these posts were writen to vent legit frustration, in the end they serve no other purpose than to harm the players and not even the devs since the last time any of them were confirmed to read this thread has been years ago if i remember correctly.
That being said the devs did give quite many reasons for legitimate criticism.
About a month ago ronadan wrote a reply to one of my posts and he brought up some points, final one among them was about the lack of planning creating a lot of different expectations, and i've came back to thinking about this from time to time since then.
In general i think it's a smart idea to set up story points or teasing scenes which can be continued later on, but by now Hreinn has set up so many different things that the players can't even guess what will be in the next update or how many patches do they need to wait for the content they want. This is of course made worse by the slow patch cycle.
So in no particular order here is a list of the things i can remember off the top of my hat that have been either set up or teased so far without being resolved.
The warchief's fate.
The warchief's successor.
The Shaman's plans.
The politics and influence of the tribe of orc shamans.
The plans of Sabia's family and potential internal divides.
Neve's backstory.
Kira's plans.
Vehlis' plans.
The plans of the 3 captains.
Dajrab completely. Backstory, skills, powers, scenes, anything.
Jadk.
Ylva's mission or role.
Kia's future and background.
Bris and the catgirls and what does Maply think of it?
Jasmine.
Amelia + the brothel.
Lutvrog.
Kuglan.
Sabia's raiding party.
Scenes are expected to involve the following characters:
Neve, Ylva, Lutvrog, the shaman and his guys, Rokgrid, Tekrok and his team, Dajrab, Jeran, tent guards, Bris, Maply, Vehlis, Kira, Kia, Avion, Amelia, Jasmine, tentacle monster, Flufftooth, Sabia's raiding party, Not-Katarina at the stables (+Neve's interest in it). Add to this random ors, humans, maybe catgirls and whoever is your own favorite that i missed.
I'm intentionally not going into any obscure ideas or specific details here, i'll leave that for another post, and i'm also not saying that we should know everything in the future of this game broken down to details, but for example this year knowing that Sabia will revisit the tents was a gret indicator of the type of content we can expect.
I've never been a fan of the "doomsday" posts where people declare that it's all over, so everyone else should stop enjoying it. Even if these posts were writen to vent legit frustration, in the end they serve no other purpose than to harm the players and not even the devs since the last time any of them were confirmed to read this thread has been years ago if i remember correctly.
That being said the devs did give quite many reasons for legitimate criticism.
About a month ago ronadan wrote a reply to one of my posts and he brought up some points, final one among them was about the lack of planning creating a lot of different expectations, and i've came back to thinking about this from time to time since then.
In general i think it's a smart idea to set up story points or teasing scenes which can be continued later on, but by now Hreinn has set up so many different things that the players can't even guess what will be in the next update or how many patches do they need to wait for the content they want. This is of course made worse by the slow patch cycle.
So in no particular order here is a list of the things i can remember off the top of my hat that have been either set up or teased so far without being resolved.
The warchief's fate.
The warchief's successor.
The Shaman's plans.
The politics and influence of the tribe of orc shamans.
The plans of Sabia's family and potential internal divides.
Neve's backstory.
Kira's plans.
Vehlis' plans.
The plans of the 3 captains.
Dajrab completely. Backstory, skills, powers, scenes, anything.
Jadk.
Ylva's mission or role.
Kia's future and background.
Bris and the catgirls and what does Maply think of it?
Jasmine.
Amelia + the brothel.
Lutvrog.
Kuglan.
Sabia's raiding party.
Scenes are expected to involve the following characters:
Neve, Ylva, Lutvrog, the shaman and his guys, Rokgrid, Tekrok and his team, Dajrab, Jeran, tent guards, Bris, Maply, Vehlis, Kira, Kia, Avion, Amelia, Jasmine, tentacle monster, Flufftooth, Sabia's raiding party, Not-Katarina at the stables (+Neve's interest in it). Add to this random ors, humans, maybe catgirls and whoever is your own favorite that i missed.
I'm intentionally not going into any obscure ideas or specific details here, i'll leave that for another post, and i'm also not saying that we should know everything in the future of this game broken down to details, but for example this year knowing that Sabia will revisit the tents was a gret indicator of the type of content we can expect.