baneini

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The necessary amount of female romanceable characters in a female protag game is one. Are they trying to win an oscar here?
 

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damn i got stuck in chufk part 2, can't get the venison, the option doesn't appear and sabia keeps saying "another time" when she speaks to the slime. Also can't trigger the neve scene in the bar and i don't think the 0.10 version intro triggered for me, even though i completed the 3 prereqs [avion, rommel, amelia?].

Saw some mentions of the bug here, no solutions tho. Was there ever a fix for it or only start a new game? are the cheat mods safe to use? [havent used them], going through everything again without cheats is going to be a pain...
 
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Jinsoyun

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I'm not sure i understand the point of some of the complaints here. Nomo is known to have a preference of drawing women instead of men and he is the only one drawing this game. So how is it a surprise or an unwelcome turn of event when a good amount of new NPCs turn out to be women?
I'm eager to see more Sabia content anytime, but this is a story about a coup over either a noble family or a whole empire and from where we are now, some new characters got to show up eventually. NN got away with a limited cast of women because in the end it was just the story of a few weeks-months in a village, while in KoD Sabia needs a base (the orc camp) and allies to do what she wants to. New NPCs and so new women will show up as a natural result.
 
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Im actually amazed there is no futa in this game, considering Nomo's preference in drawing women and all the new female characters added, or does Nomo not like futa?
 

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Im actually amazed there is no futa in this game, considering Nomo's preference in drawing women and all the new female characters added, or does Nomo not like futa?
I don't know why it isn't tagged, but the game has futa.

Kia is a herm or something, don't remember the lore about her species' shapeshifting powers. But she can grow a dick to fuck Sabia so I can't imagine why it wouldn't count.
 
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I don't know why it isn't tagged, but the game has futa.

Kia is a herm or something, don't remember the lore about her species' shapeshifting powers. But she can grow a dick to fuck Sabia so I can't imagine why it wouldn't count.
Kia is technically not human so it doesn't count, NN has the option of having Leblanc use a strap-on or casting an 'enchanted rod' between her legs.
From what I can tell, Nomo likes drawing sexy women more than dudes or females with dude parts. The latter is most likely because some people are just too damn persistent.
 

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Kia is technically not human so it doesn't count
This is the weirdest cop-out I have seen in a long time, but okay, I will just let the game's CG speak for itself:
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Again, I haven't played the game in a billion years so I don't remember if in the lore her species can change their genitals to allow mating even when there are only a few of them left (I think I remember that but I might be confusing it with some other game), but how the hell is a girl with a fully functional penis that is her own flesh and part of her body doesn't warrant the futanari tag?
 
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This is the weirdest cop-out I have seen in a long time, but okay, I will just let the game's CG speak for itself:
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Again, I haven't played the game in a billion years so I don't remember if in the lore her species can change their genitals to allow mating even when there are only a few of them left (I think I remember that but I might be confusing it with some other game), but how the hell is a girl with a fully functional penis that is her own flesh and part of her body doesn't warrant the futanari tag?
Have you not read the 'not human' part of my post? Kia can only do so since she's a monster that can use magic that took the form of a human looking female.
It is only when a female human character in a game that possess the traits/magic to grow a male genitalia (or she already had it in the first place) will that character be called a futa, and the only female human character that can do that so far would be Leblanc from Noxian Nights.
Kia being a monster having a dick through magic/monster biology is technically feasible.
 
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Have you not read the 'not human' part of my post? Kia can only do so since she's a monster that can use magic that took the form of a human looking female.
It is only when a female human character in a game that possess the traits/magic to grow a male genitalia (or she already had it in the first place) will that character be called a futa, and the only female human character that can do that so far would be Leblanc from Noxian Nights.
Kia being a monster having a dick through magic/monster biology is technically feasible.
My man, the word futanari literally means a humanoid feminine body with both male and female sexual organs, whether it's a xenomorph, a rock golem or the holy mary herself.
 
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I'm not sure i understand the point of some of the complaints here. Nomo is known to have a preference of drawing women instead of men and he is the only one drawing this game. So how is it a surprise or an unwelcome turn of event when a good amount of new NPCs turn out to be women?
I'm eager to see more Sabia content anytime, but this is a story about a coup over either a noble family or a whole empire and from where we are now, some new characters got to show up eventually. NN got away with a limited cast of women because in the end it was just the story of a few weeks-months in a village, while in KoD Sabia needs a base (the orc camp) and allies to do what she wants to. New NPCs and so new women will show up as a natural result.
Current female characters in KoD:

1. Sabia
2. Neve
3. Maply
4. Vehlis
5. Ylva
6. Kia
7. Elmy
8. Kira
9. Mariana
11. Reina & Elliah
12. Tijana
13. Amelia
13. Bris
14. Tyra
15. Lynn
16. Her Mother

Sorry, but i can't see your point here, nor do i think we've need even more female charakters. Especially due to the fact, that a lot of charekters (both, male and female) yet still lacking an ongoing development.
So i do really not understand, how this argues against what i've said previous.
 

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But imagine this character domming Sabia. She has the potential to be the best side character yet, so I'm not complaining.
I agree this new side character has potential... but so has every side character that's been introduced since the first release 9 years ago. And the potential of ALL those other characters is still there.... Waiting.

P.S. Before anyone says anything... Yes. I am aware that the game Has Not been in development for 9 years.
 
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I'm not sure i understand the point of some of the complaints here. Nomo is known to have a preference of drawing women instead of men and he is the only one drawing this game. So how is it a surprise or an unwelcome turn of event when a good amount of new NPCs turn out to be women?
I'm eager to see more Sabia content anytime, but this is a story about a coup over either a noble family or a whole empire and from where we are now, some new characters got to show up eventually. NN got away with a limited cast of women because in the end it was just the story of a few weeks-months in a village, while in KoD Sabia needs a base (the orc camp) and allies to do what she wants to. New NPCs and so new women will show up as a natural result.
You make some good points. It technically is a revenge/coup game. However, after all this time The main plot really hasn't advanced to any real degree. Taking all of the "side quests" out of the equation and than looking at all the unused locations shows that in all the time since first release and especially since siera left there has not been consistent or even near consistent development on the plot/story imo. They might as well change the name of the game to FUSS or Free Use Slut Sabia. (which i would be more than happy with btw :) )

All this time with absolutely no comms with anyone. Not on patreon. Not on the blog. (which has been neglected so long it is actually starting to rust.) updates billed as updates... but not actual updates. Art that's supposed to be included in an update but isnt.. instead its in the next update of the previous update.....? And then they jump in... Surprise Muthafukas!!! New character for that ass. whether you wanted/asked for it. Again, all with no communication at all. Its an altogether unpleasant and unkind way to treat supporters, hence the reason i am no longer a supporter. Which is sad because I have been hoping to see a reason to start supporting again. I still hold out hope for this game.... but that hope grows dimmer by the day.

I get the strange feeling that they are following the art instead of following the story. TV, Film, Books, etc. take your pick of media. EVERYTHING follows the writing/story. If developers/creators lead with anything other than the story you tend to end up with a jumbled mess.

Thank you for tuning in for my rant.
And may the Schwartz be with you.
 

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Sorry, but i can't see your point here, nor do i think we've need even more female charakters. Especially due to the fact, that a lot of charekters (both, male and female) yet still lacking an ongoing development.
So i do really not understand, how this argues against what i've said previous.
With your first sentence i think you are missing the point. How many female characters does the game need is irrelevant. As long as Nomo is the artist, and as long as new characters are introduced there will always be female ones among them, because that's what Nomo likes to draw. And since we slowly, very slowly started to explore the human regions, we will have new NPCs. And 2+2 together from there.

And you are right, very few of the current NPCs have any significant development and i also agree that they should get a bit more role in the story. But this brings us to a related issue. When the story of Ylva and Kia was released, even on this forum there were dozens of pages filled with people expressing opinions like "nobody cares" "focus on Sabia, maybe Neve, but nobody else" etc. And if that kind of feedback is representative of what Hreinn has heard, then it makes sense for them to minimize the roles and development of NPCs.
Now, personally i think that the main problem with that story arc was how much space Ylva and Kia took in one chunk, instead of constant smaller dozes like Neve or Maply, so the problem was about the presentation and not the characters themselves, but that is definitely not the feedback that was given by the majority.
 

Jinsoyun

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Using "nomo likes to draw x" as argument is batshit.
It's a product you take money for, not a hobby.
That argument is good for quantifiable factors like patch speed or deadlines. But if you want to apply it to things like "number of female npcs", then you need to establish a clear and well reasoned line for that too. In your earlier post you said:

The necessary amount of female romanceable characters in a female protag game is one. Are they trying to win an oscar here?
Why exactly is this? How much more makes a game automatically bad and unacceptable as a product? Are other games like Noxian Night or Roundscape bad by default because of this? Or outside of the direct H-genre what about Mass Effect, Dragon Age? Are they just half bad because they can be played with a male protagonist too?

If you say that my point is batshit, then please back it up with something tangible. Give me some exact numbers and the reason why that's the only acceptable amount for a paid game.
Otherwise, back at you, sir.
 
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