Jinsoyun

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I'm expecting a decent update, but there are a few things worth keeping in mind:
It's not going to be a year's worth of content.
With the delay till tomorrow we have up to ~40 more hours to the deadline if no further delays happen. As it has been said before me: f* timezones.
This update seems to be story focused. Dom/Sub interactions will happen and all that, but i doubt that there would be significantly more real scenes than usual. My guess is 3-6 depending on how you count it (3 if only new, unique and high quality art counts, 6 or maybe a bit more if we count re-uses or sketches too).

From the info we got so far it seems like the majority of the effort went into a longer story quest and new sprites/character drawings this time. But if a hero arises we will find it out soon.
 
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TL;DR - Nomo does art. Hreinn Games have coders and Sierra is not involved. Using excuses to push for a Spring release.

Nomo developed the original concept, backgrounds, and art while Sierra put those concepts to paper as it were. However, she left long ago (and many suspect is due to differing work ethics) whereas the coders and other writers, Ndsferrari and Monaco Dingo, have been on board with the project since November 2017 (at least; per their Patreon). And Monsinne have been involved since 2018 as I recall, but likely sooner.

In regards to delays, the excuse for why things are slow that sometimes gets tossed around by some including the dev team is that these latest additions to Hreinn Games (and the loss of Sierra) is that they're still new and still figuring out the ropes. This is nonsense, of course. It doesn't take years to simply settle in. As such and as respectfully as I can put it while making this point crystal clear, this is utter and complete *bullshit*.

People have rightly called them out on it. So instead (and this part is my opinion only), the team have come up with a new and exciting way to string their supporters and fans along... No news whatsoever! Instead of posting any kind of information, they chose not to post anything because without any posts of subsistence then people can't pick apart their excuses and put their feet to the fire. Silence is golden.

However, as time marches onward with the clamoring of their lack of professionalism and accusations of Hreinn Games are milking their patrons grows ever louder, they are then, I feel, obligated to throw a bone to appease their fans and curious onlookers. This sometimes comes in the form of a quick post talking about the game or a very minor update, but more often than not it's more excuses. Some are understandably tragic and people have given the team the benefit of the doubt, as I have; however, and not to sound cold, this only goes so far. Overall, the community have been extremely patient, understanding, lenient, and supportive more often than not while keeping the vitriol and toxicity surprisingly low when it comes to Hreinn Games as a whole. (I'm proud of you guys.)

Yet, they are squandering the faith people put in them. People are getting tired of it.

In regards to questions about a possible update, we can make a reasonable extrapolation of when that might be, given Hreinn Games past performances. They appear to have settled into a biannual release schedule. (See below.)
That the schedule Hreinn Games have now apparently settled into being one significant update each in spring and fall. And wouldn't you know it? Right on queue, Hreinn Games throws said bone mentioned above in mid-October which falls in the middle of the season. They typically don't deviate how often they now disseminate news. Thus, it came as a pleasant surprise when there was an uptick in their Patreon posts activity prior to this. It didn't last.

But they hit their target about throwing something out (or lack thereof). Yes, the last bit of news is unfortunate, but not tragic. Not only that, they tied in an excuse with some information about the game. They're pretty sly like that essentially saying "Here's why we're slow but here's what we got and hope you guys are excited enough to keep supporting us!". People looking at that in a vacuum would think that's a reasonable post. People who have been around knows better.

That said, don't expect a major release of the game until spring (maybe winter if we're lucky). It's the opinion of many, given that Hreinn Games hit their fall "quota" and considering when they release updates, there won't be any news or an excuse until December and not an actual update to the game until spring. It's been discussed many times how game development can be hard and how this game is complicated; hence, taking more time. On the other hand, there's also been many discussions about how a lot of it is mitigated and isn't anywhere near as complicated as some may believe it to be. Thus, development time is a poor excuse if it takes a full year to reach the next milestone update.

As much as I want them to succeed, as a former patron, I can only recommend that people do not support them financially on their Patreon until they shape up. As it is, Hreinn Games have burned a lot of good faith (and this certainly true of myself and many of my friends in the real world over here) and I cannot in good conscience continue to support them with the way things are. You can respectfully disagree, and I'm okay with that. Nevertheless, they have to do better, and the best way to do that, short of more frequent game updates, is to communicate much more often than they currently do. The radio silence route and their apparent release schedule should be red flags to current and potential new supporters. Look for good things to happen but also be careful of propping up your hopes too much.

As always guys and gals, be safe out there and stay awesome! Cheers!

Minor Edit: Quote for the release dates isn't showing the full list for some odd reason. Added cropped section, again. Sorry if displays duplicates.
This maybe a long shot but do u also have the update schedules for the previous game Noxian nights as comparison?

Edit 1: I dug through the og blog they had. Noxian nights first release was in August 1 2015 and the final version was September 2nd 2016. Pretty quick development and it was by no means a huge game but i also wasn't a small one had quite a few scenes as well. The updates were also monthly and sometimes the would skip a month but it was consistent. Guess stringing along patreons for more money killed the dev speed for the current game.
 
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Anmitsu

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This. Their income has halved since the last update they delivered. No one works for free, but that's only their fault I guess.
They are NOT working for free and I don't even mean that they aren't working as in not developing the game fast enough but I mean that they still get a lot of money in proportion to how much they're doing.
In my country, for that kind of money which each member of their team gets, assuming they split it 50/50, you could live comfortably for months.
 

Epifan

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Hey guys, unfortunately due to weather impacting Nds' electricity and internet, we will have to push back to at least the 8th on the release date, pending continued service for Nds.
Nds is our programmer, and compiles the final version for release. We apologize for the delay.

Thanks guys.
 

souldead341

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This maybe a long shot but do u also have the update schedules for the previous game Noxian nights as comparison?

Edit 1: I dug through the og blog they had. Noxian nights first release was in August 1 2015 and the final version was September 2nd 2016. Pretty quick development and it was by no means a huge game but i also wasn't a small one had quite a few scenes as well. The updates were also monthly and sometimes the would skip a month but it was consistent. Guess stringing along patreons for more money killed the dev speed for the current game.
The updates for NN were on a monthly release schedule. While it's true that it was simpler in terms of coding (being a standard rpgmaker game basically), the scenes were almost all just different haircuts in an update, so easier in that regard for the art.
 

Anmitsu

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Inb4, if they're already so close with the release of the update to their competitive porn game's release date, Cyber Spunk 2077, they will postpone the update until the end of January when the hype around Cyber Spunk will weaken.
 

psycohunter96

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Inb4, if they're already so close with the release of the update to their competitive porn game's release date, Cyber Spunk 2077, they will postpone the update until the end of January when the hype around Cyber Spunk will weaken.
to be fair its cyberpunk we are talking about i doubt the hype will die in january so they might release at spring
 

grodom

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Hey guys, unfortunately due to weather impacting Nds' electricity and internet, we will have to push back to at least the 8th on the release date, pending continued service for Nds.
Nds is our programmer, and compiles the final version for release. We apologize for the delay.

Thanks guys.
Weather impacting electricity and internet? Yeah right!
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You never had a thunderstorm knock out your internet, let alone the power?
This is the same when someone spits on your face, and claims it was not him, it went from the ocean, because there are thunderstorms.
 

sam1545654

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You never had a thunderstorm knock out your internet, let alone the power?
I definitely have. But that is not the point here. It's ALWAYS something with them.

Dog died
car ran out of gas
family member is sick
microwave died so cant make hot pockets to fuel game production
was sitting on the floor cross legged and foot fell asleep so cant walk to computer
Someone divided by zero in another galaxy and the exotic particles produced by that event bricked their computers....


Its. Always. Something.


It's sad because as far as I'm concerned this wasn't a simple porn game. I actually found it interesting.
 
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Oh well, what's another few hours of waiting, when it's been about 9 months already. I'm sure it's just a matter of uploading the game on MEGA as soon as Nds wakes up. They did mention only a short delay after all. Then somebody will post a link here in the couple of hours after that. Good things come to those who wait, or somesuch
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fushan6969696969

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Code:
I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
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-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
  File "02OrcCamp Phase 02.rpyc", line 1893, in script
  File "D:\Kingdom_of_Deception-pc\renpy\ast.py", line 1531, in execute
    choice = renpy.exports.menu(choices, self.set)
  File "D:\Kingdom_of_Deception-pc\renpy\exports.py", line 855, in menu
    if renpy.python.py_eval(condition) ]
  File "D:\Kingdom_of_Deception-pc\renpy\python.py", line 1917, in py_eval
    code = py_compile(code, 'eval')
  File "D:\Kingdom_of_Deception-pc\renpy\python.py", line 674, in py_compile
    raise e
SyntaxError: invalid syntax (game/02OrcCamp Phase 02.rpy, line 1897)

Windows-8-6.2.9200
Ren'Py 6.99.14.3.3347
Kingdom of Deception 0.10.7
Tue Dec 08 19:41:56 2020
Any Fix Plz
 

fushan6969696969

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Code:
I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
SyntaxError: invalid syntax (game/02OrcCamp Phase 02.rpy, line 1897)

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
  File "02OrcCamp Phase 02.rpyc", line 1893, in script
  File "D:\Kingdom_of_Deception-pc\renpy\ast.py", line 1531, in execute
    choice = renpy.exports.menu(choices, self.set)
  File "D:\Kingdom_of_Deception-pc\renpy\exports.py", line 855, in menu
    if renpy.python.py_eval(condition) ]
  File "D:\Kingdom_of_Deception-pc\renpy\python.py", line 1917, in py_eval
    code = py_compile(code, 'eval')
  File "D:\Kingdom_of_Deception-pc\renpy\python.py", line 674, in py_compile
    raise e
SyntaxError: invalid syntax (game/02OrcCamp Phase 02.rpy, line 1897)

Windows-8-6.2.9200
Ren'Py 6.99.14.3.3347
Kingdom of Deception 0.10.7
Tue Dec 08 19:41:56 2020
Any Fix
 
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UHH OHH GUYS ANOTHER UPDATE,

It seems the whole Cthulhu thing was a false positive, just some assholes having a goth party in my back yard. I know I know. Weird right.

I was so happy to learn that was the case that immediately ran towards my PC to upload this new update for you guys, but as I was approaching my computer I heard the strangest of noises.
Some asshole was screaming 'Lok'tar Ogar', and a curious fuck that I am I decided to check what was going on. Only to be blown away by the things I was seeing.
There he was Medivh in his full crow glory leading an invading orc army, along side him was a green giant (I think it was Gul'dan, but I'm not 100% sure).
Scared for my life as I was I ran as far as my legs could take me, abandoning my home, my pc and the awesome update I had planed for everyone to enjoy.

But there is a bright side to this whole horrible situation. I was fortunate enough to find aid in Lordaeron and soon as Lord Uther returns with Arthas from Stratholme we will go back to my house to take down the stinking orcs that decided to take away my awesome update (did I mention how awesome this update is going to be).

Again I am so grateful for you guys, for supporting me, for showering me in cash.

With love, a shady fuck xoxo

PS. I'm having too much fun writing these updates for Hreinn Games while I'm waiting for group finder in SWTOR
 
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UHH OHH GUYS ANOTHER UPDATE,

It seems the whole Cthulhu thing was a false positive, just some assholes having a goth party in my back yard. I know I know. Weird right.

I was so happy to learn that was the case that immediately ran towards my PC to upload this new update for you guys, but as I was approaching my computer I heard the strangest of noises.
Some asshole was screaming 'Lok'tar Ogar', and a curious fuck that I am I decided to check what was going on. Only to be blown away by the things I was seeing.
There he was Medivh in his full crow glory leading an invading orc army, along side him was a green giant (I think it was Gul'dan, but I'm not 100% sure).
Scared for my life as I was I ran as far as my legs could take me, abandoning my home, my pc and the awesome update I had planed for everyone to enjoy.

But there is a bright side to this whole horrible situation. I was fortunate enough to find aid in Lordaeron and soon as Lord Uther returns with Arthas from Stratholme we will go back to my house to take down the stinking orcs that decided to take away my awesome update (did I mention how awesome this update is going to be).

Again I am so grateful for you guys, for supporting me, for showering me in cash.

With love, a shady fuck xoxo

PS. I'm having too much fun writing these updates for Hreinn Games while I'm waiting for group finder in SWTOR
How's the new player intake since it got released on Steam? I tried doing a few flashpoints but everybody was maxed out all the time and obviously rushing through the same areas for the hundredth time, leaving me more confused than I was with the Mandalorian's Ahsoka casting choice. Not to mention the PvP aspect.
Also I wonder if Hreinn would add a Warcraft easter egg in KoD, now that you mention it. More Jaina and space marine tauren are always nice.
 
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