Enigmanic

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Bro, is this a sex game or a fucking novel.
I get it the original premise was supposed to be a little bit more lore heavy and a deep, rich world

But that shit was out the window well before Kira showed up.

Also, I mean, the fuck do you really know about Kira? She's a renegade.

Bad ends also are probably not "canon" so who really gives a fuck. I mean, besides you.
Just because it's a porn game doesn't mean it can't have good storytelling and gameplay. Besides, the devs have already had 5 years to flesh out the story.
 

Decathect

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I had to chuckle at your comments, take a chill pill mate.... might do you some good. Lots of misplaced anger in there which may be due to your frustration at the lack of progress in the game, I don't know???.

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Actually, in the very first paragraph of my initial post i specify im just ranting about being annoyed how that particular oddity broke what woulda been a successful no-death/reload run on the first try.

But thank you for the amusing - if condescending - discount armchair psychology regarding how I think, what my worldview is, along with conjectures of personal shortcomings and general approach to life: all insightfully gleaned from that one exchange.
You didn't come off as a pretentious, patronizing twit at all. :LOL:

Also, I mean, the fuck do you really know about Kira? She's a renegade.
Come on - thats just the lazy "she is crazy so anything is justifiable" argument with different wording.
To the point; in both posts regarding this i summarized what "the fuck we know about kira" and how&why it doesnt work for the character, even within her own world. If you wish to argue in good faith, address those points and not just offer a dismissive, generalistic one-liner.
 
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GGAEM

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Can I see all the scenes in both Domination and Submission directions at once play?

Or which route should I choose to see more scenes?
 

Jinsoyun

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Can I see all the scenes in both Domination and Submission directions at once play?

Or which route should I choose to see more scenes?
No. There are many cases where you get the scene based on your higher stat. You can skip the scenes most of the time, but a full balanced run with every option is not possible.

Currently if i remember correctly, the Sub route, siding with Tekrok has the most scenes, but personally i run another one with Rokgrid + Dom and this combination so far covered 99% of everything.
 
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Jinsoyun

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My two cents on the Kira debate. Feel free to ignore it, i'm no authority on anything.

Kira was shown to love blood and violence and she is the kind of person who will take a mile if you offer an inch. These characters can be interesting in fiction, but in almost every case i've seen so far, they either take so much effort to flash out that they take over the story or they are just left half baked.
Considering how unpopular it can get when a side character takes over the main story, the first option probably wouldn't have been too popular here either, even if it might have been needed. Check the Kia-story patch and the comments here for reference.

Personally i think that the bad end there was as obvious as any before it. And the bandits do talk about the risk that Kira would kill any of them if they made a wrong move or comment. Avion is probably the only exception from this.

But if i had any creative input, i would have preferred one of two options:
Make it a sequence just like Vehlis' rescue mission was. Sabia gets abused in the first 2 times with increasing intensity and if she still comes back for more, than we can go for the full on bad end mode.
Or make it a bit chance based. 2-3 versions of the scene you get one semi-randomly and so you have, let's say 10% chance that Kira goes overboard and you end up in the bad end. Do you want to tempt fate for a unique night?

The meta reality unfortunately is that both of these options would have added serious development time and the second one probably wouldn't be possible without causing the bug that they couldn't fix in 0.12 with the repeatable scenes.
 

bitchass92

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Actually, in the very first paragraph of my initial post i specify im just ranting about being annoyed how that particular oddity broke what woulda been a successful no-death/reload run on the first try.

But thank you for the amusing - if condescending - discount armchair psychology regarding how I think, what my worldview is, along with conjectures of personal shortcomings and general approach to life: all insightfully gleaned from that one exchange.
You didn't come off as a pretentious, patronizing twit at all. :LOL:



Come on - thats just the lazy "she is crazy so anything is justifiable" argument with different wording.
To the point; in both posts regarding this i summarized what "the fuck we know about kira" and how&why it doesnt work for the character, even within her own world. If you wish to argue in good faith, address those points and not just offer a dismissive, generalistic one-liner.
No, I don't think so.

What do you know about Kira?
 

CakeCake2021

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They made them bigger because people were talking(Complaining?) about how the orc hands covered her breasts completely. So now when orcs grab/squish them there is boob to see.
 
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GGAEM

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No. There are many cases where you get the scene based on your higher stat. You can skip the scenes most of the time, but a full balanced run with every option is not possible.

Currently if i remember correctly, the Sub route, siding with Tekrok has the most scenes, but personally i run another one with Rokgrid + Dom and this combination so far covered 99% of everything.
Thanks you
 
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Since we're talking about Kira I won't get into the debate but I'll just say that that's my favorite scene (the bad end where sabia is turned into kira's slave) and I wish it didn't result in a bad end. One more thing, I wish the submissive and dominant stats affected the sex scenes more, for the sub, sabia willingly serves someone else, and for the dominant, I just think if they switched places with Kira, aka Kira being sabia's slave when u reach high domination would be better.
 

kailina55

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Well call me an April fool, but there's rumblings in the discord. Apparently the artist is sending the coder CG image layers to be coded into the game, so maybe that's signs of an update soon™?

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Just keep in mind they teased the last update with this pic and it never made it into the game. Not trying to be a downer, just want to spare you from getting your hopes crushed. Having high expectations opens the door for being disappointed. Having low expectations opens the door for being pleasantly surprised :p
 

Kalist001

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I swear you guys are full on hopium for this game. Talk about waste of potential. Then again, they keep getting paid for it...
 

oshkoshdorosh

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Just keep in mind they teased the last update with this pic and it never made it into the game. Not trying to be a downer, just want to spare you from getting your hopes crushed. Having high expectations opens the door for being disappointed. Having low expectations opens the door for being pleasantly surprised :p
Friend, i've been a patron since before the first teaser pic of this game dropped (disappearing slutty monk, anyone?). Trust me, i haven't a stockpile of hopium to smoke or a hope left to crush.
 

Shakira

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(disappearing slutty monk, anyone?)
Damn this hurts me on whole another level. You wouldn't believe it but that character was one of main the reason I started following this game. Fast forward 5 years and I am still waiting for her :cautious:

Do you happen to have her pictures? I think she was called Harlotte. I might commission some art of her in the future myself if Nomo isn't going to do it.
 

oshkoshdorosh

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Damn this hurts me on whole another level. You wouldn't believe it but that character was one of main the reason I started following this game. Fast forward 5 years and I am still waiting for her :cautious:

Do you happen to have her pictures? I think she was called Harlotte. I might commission some art of her in the future myself if Nomo isn't going to do it.
Alas, i haven't a pic. Three cheers to any of y'all on here who had the presence of mind to save a pic and share it with us old, foolish, burnt-out-by-hopium folks here!
 

souldead341

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Alas, i haven't a pic. Three cheers to any of y'all on here who had the presence of mind to save a pic and share it with us old, foolish, burnt-out-by-hopium folks here!
I decided to be a bit of a masochist and looked back through their patreon (and blog) posts. I wasn't able to find anything about a slutty monk. But for some reason patreon posts are cut off in 2016 at to oldest, around the Neve reveal post, so it might have been lost from the site. Or it could be in one of the pay blocked posts with generic titles.

Though was a lovely look back to see comments on basically every public post asking for more frequent news posts.
 
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