VN Ren'Py Abandoned Kingdom of Deception [v0.14.2.2] [Hreinn Games]

[bitchass92]

No, no, no, thats just the lazy justification a talentless hack would use to explain someone acting out of character: "they are crazy so anything goes".
Its insulting to the intelligence of the audience and the only thing making it worse is when said audience parrots that bullshit excuse.

More to the point, the person in question is in a position of leadership. You dont get or hold onto that by being batshit insane and being randomly counterproductive all the time.
There is always a method to the madness, thats what makes such characters interesting.
And this is where they drop the ball. There is no valid reason for the player to suspect that accepting Kira's invitation would result in a gameover. The premise is "be useful or begone", and as i stated earlier, its not followed because of halfassed lazy writing.

You wana know just how lazy; kira killing sabia after the successful mission simply throws you on the same sequence as failing the tests.
Not a single line indicating that she'd gone back on her word and killed off a promising recruit - who had the backing of someone whose word she trusts - on a whim just to get her rocks off that one time. That whole sentence doesnt even hit the marks for "crazy". Only "stupid".

"she is crazy so its ok" is the insultingly incompetent reasoning of a two-bit amateur, and only a chump would accept it as good writing.



Considering the events that take place prior, like her trusting you with the secret to her armor: suggesting Neve knowingly allowed your fate for some heretofore unknown grand design is just reaching. Youd also have to explain why would she bother with Sabia at all if whatever her agenda is can afford her being killed off out of hand without the plan being inconvenienced in the slightest.
Or you are just a contrarian, playing devil's advocate out of boredom.

Bro, is this a sex game or a fucking novel.
I get it the original premise was supposed to be a little bit more lore heavy and a deep, rich world

But that shit was out the window well before Kira showed up.

Also, I mean, the fuck do you really know about Kira? She's a renegade.

Bad ends also are probably not "canon" so who really gives a fuck. I mean, besides you.

 

[Enigmanic]

Bro, is this a sex game or a fucking novel.
I get it the original premise was supposed to be a little bit more lore heavy and a deep, rich world

But that shit was out the window well before Kira showed up.

Also, I mean, the fuck do you really know about Kira? She's a renegade.

Bad ends also are probably not "canon" so who really gives a fuck. I mean, besides you.

Just because it's a porn game doesn't mean it can't have good storytelling and gameplay. Besides, the devs have already had 5 years to flesh out the story.

 

[Decathect]

I had to chuckle at your comments, take a chill pill mate.... might do you some good. Lots of misplaced anger in there which may be due to your frustration at the lack of progress in the game, I don't know???.

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Actually, in the very first paragraph of my initial post i specify im just ranting about being annoyed how that particular oddity broke what woulda been a successful no-death/reload run on the first try.

But thank you for the amusing - if condescending - discount armchair psychology regarding how I think, what my worldview is, along with conjectures of personal shortcomings and general approach to life: all insightfully gleaned from that one exchange.
You didn't come off as a pretentious, patronizing twit at all.

Also, I mean, the fuck do you really know about Kira? She's a renegade.

Come on - thats just the lazy "she is crazy so anything is justifiable" argument with different wording.
To the point; in both posts regarding this i summarized what "the fuck we know about kira" and how&why it doesnt work for the character, even within her own world. If you wish to argue in good faith, address those points and not just offer a dismissive, generalistic one-liner.

 

[GGAEM]

Can I see all the scenes in both Domination and Submission directions at once play?

Or which route should I choose to see more scenes?

 

[Jinsoyun]

Can I see all the scenes in both Domination and Submission directions at once play?

Or which route should I choose to see more scenes?

No. There are many cases where you get the scene based on your higher stat. You can skip the scenes most of the time, but a full balanced run with every option is not possible.

Currently if i remember correctly, the Sub route, siding with Tekrok has the most scenes, but personally i run another one with Rokgrid + Dom and this combination so far covered 99% of everything.

 

[Jinsoyun]

My two cents on the Kira debate. Feel free to ignore it, i'm no authority on anything.

Kira was shown to love blood and violence and she is the kind of person who will take a mile if you offer an inch. These characters can be interesting in fiction, but in almost every case i've seen so far, they either take so much effort to flash out that they take over the story or they are just left half baked.
Considering how unpopular it can get when a side character takes over the main story, the first option probably wouldn't have been too popular here either, even if it might have been needed. Check the Kia-story patch and the comments here for reference.

Personally i think that the bad end there was as obvious as any before it. And the bandits do talk about the risk that Kira would kill any of them if they made a wrong move or comment. Avion is probably the only exception from this.

But if i had any creative input, i would have preferred one of two options:
Make it a sequence just like Vehlis' rescue mission was. Sabia gets abused in the first 2 times with increasing intensity and if she still comes back for more, than we can go for the full on bad end mode.
Or make it a bit chance based. 2-3 versions of the scene you get one semi-randomly and so you have, let's say 10% chance that Kira goes overboard and you end up in the bad end. Do you want to tempt fate for a unique night?

The meta reality unfortunately is that both of these options would have added serious development time and the second one probably wouldn't be possible without causing the bug that they couldn't fix in 0.12 with the repeatable scenes.

 

[Jax_iv]

I'm stuck, please help!

 

[bitchass92]

Actually, in the very first paragraph of my initial post i specify im just ranting about being annoyed how that particular oddity broke what woulda been a successful no-death/reload run on the first try.

But thank you for the amusing - if condescending - discount armchair psychology regarding how I think, what my worldview is, along with conjectures of personal shortcomings and general approach to life: all insightfully gleaned from that one exchange.
You didn't come off as a pretentious, patronizing twit at all.



Come on - thats just the lazy "she is crazy so anything is justifiable" argument with different wording.
To the point; in both posts regarding this i summarized what "the fuck we know about kira" and how&why it doesnt work for the character, even within her own world. If you wish to argue in good faith, address those points and not just offer a dismissive, generalistic one-liner.

No, I don't think so.

What do you know about Kira?

 

[tardford]

When did Sabias breasts get so big. I really prefer the more smaller shaped.

 

[Deleted member 4117021]

They made them bigger because people were talking(Complaining?) about how the orc hands covered her breasts completely. So now when orcs grab/squish them there is boob to see.

 

[GGAEM]

No. There are many cases where you get the scene based on your higher stat. You can skip the scenes most of the time, but a full balanced run with every option is not possible.

Currently if i remember correctly, the Sub route, siding with Tekrok has the most scenes, but personally i run another one with Rokgrid + Dom and this combination so far covered 99% of everything.

Thanks you

 

[Tripfriend]

I wonder how it feels to care about the story or the characters, I'm only here for Nomo art.

 

[BootLicking Appreciator]

Since we're talking about Kira I won't get into the debate but I'll just say that that's my favorite scene (the bad end where sabia is turned into kira's slave) and I wish it didn't result in a bad end. One more thing, I wish the submissive and dominant stats affected the sex scenes more, for the sub, sabia willingly serves someone else, and for the dominant, I just think if they switched places with Kira, aka Kira being sabia's slave when u reach high domination would be better.

 

[kailina55]

Well call me an April fool, but there's rumblings in the discord. Apparently the artist is sending the coder CG image layers to be coded into the game, so maybe that's signs of an update soon™?

Spoiler: April foolishness?

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Just keep in mind they teased the last update with this pic and it never made it into the game. Not trying to be a downer, just want to spare you from getting your hopes crushed. Having high expectations opens the door for being disappointed. Having low expectations opens the door for being pleasantly surprised

 

[Kalist001]

I swear you guys are full on hopium for this game. Talk about waste of potential. Then again, they keep getting paid for it...

 

[Brother Penetrātus]

I swear you guys are full on hopium for this game. Talk about waste of potential. Then again, they keep getting paid for it...

I'm just here for the memes.

 

[oshkoshdorosh]

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Just keep in mind they teased the last update with this pic and it never made it into the game. Not trying to be a downer, just want to spare you from getting your hopes crushed. Having high expectations opens the door for being disappointed. Having low expectations opens the door for being pleasantly surprised

Friend, i've been a patron since before the first teaser pic of this game dropped (disappearing slutty monk, anyone?). Trust me, i haven't a stockpile of hopium to smoke or a hope left to crush.

 

[iplayfortheplot]

(disappearing slutty monk, anyone?)

holy fuck, have i been here since that long ?
i need to get a life bros

 

[Shakira]

(disappearing slutty monk, anyone?)

Damn this hurts me on whole another level. You wouldn't believe it but that character was one of main the reason I started following this game. Fast forward 5 years and I am still waiting for her

Do you happen to have her pictures? I think she was called Harlotte. I might commission some art of her in the future myself if Nomo isn't going to do it.

 

[oshkoshdorosh]

Damn this hurts me on whole another level. You wouldn't believe it but that character was one of main the reason I started following this game. Fast forward 5 years and I am still waiting for her

Do you happen to have her pictures? I think she was called Harlotte. I might commission some art of her in the future myself if Nomo isn't going to do it.

Alas, i haven't a pic. Three cheers to any of y'all on here who had the presence of mind to save a pic and share it with us old, foolish, burnt-out-by-hopium folks here!