yeahyah

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Back On topic talk. Is anyone surprised they haven't made any progress? Feels like Sierra more or less did the majority of the weight pull on the previous work in hindsight.
they ignore any kind of constructive criticism
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Skarfaze

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Two months and not one word. I remember the days they used to update the game in the same amount of time. What a fucking disgrace. Its one unique piece of art, 2 resuable art pieces and at most like a thousand words. Atleast have some respect for your patreons and say something. This is like an 8 year old who has not done his school work hoping that if he stays quiet the teacher wont notice.
 

bauman

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Objectively, the project became vaporware the moment Sierra Lee left. Even if you're unfamiliar with the development history, you can pinpoint the exact moment when that happened by just playing the game. Lazy storytelling, recycled artwork, half-assed news updates; all that is left is the abandoned tag. If Noxian Nights was Hreinn Games' baby, Kingdom of Deception is the afterbirth. It's absolutely disgusting how they wasted the title's potential. :HideThePain:
 

yeahyah

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Objectively, the project became vaporware the moment Sierra Lee left. Even if you're unfamiliar with the development history, you can pinpoint the exact moment when that happened by just playing the game. Lazy storytelling, recycled artwork, half-assed news updates; all that is left is the abandoned tag. If Noxian Nights was Hreinn Games' baby, Kingdom of Deception is the afterbirth. It's absolutely disgusting how they wasted the title's potential. :HideThePain:
Like I said above, I wouldn't be surprised if Sierra was pulling 90% of the work, look how many proper games she's put out by now compared to the rest of the Hreinn team.
I quite enjoy that the game's been so shit that the thread has devolved into shitposting, somehow more entertaining than the past couple of updates ngl.
Shitposting is a way of life, not a choice.
Now get in the forums and shitpost, forumer!
 

Erectosaurus

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Like I said above, I wouldn't be surprised if Sierra was pulling 90% of the work
As much as I love shitting on this game Sierra was just the writer. She had nothing to do with the art, coding, etc. Her leaving definitely effected the development but let's be real, writing about some chick becoming an orc cumdump isn't exactly high tier literature.

The real issue is that the game has no direction. Sabia is still stuck in her shitty tent and has made zero progress towards her goal of revenge, the art is getting worse, and the dev doesn't seem to understand the concept of repeatable scenes which should be simple to implement since this game is using Ren'py.
 

souldead341

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As much as I love shitting on this game Sierra was just the writer. She had nothing to do with the art, coding, etc. Her leaving definitely effected the development but let's be real, writing about some chick becoming an orc cumdump isn't exactly high tier literature.

The real issue is that the game has no direction. Sabia is still stuck in her shitty tent and has made zero progress towards her goal of revenge, the art is getting worse, and the dev doesn't seem to understand the concept of repeatable scenes which should be simple to implement since this game is using Ren'py.
Well, she may have been the one pushing for the others to work. So if Nomo or the coder at the time was slacking, she may have been getting on them to actually get things done.

Of sourse that's just speculation based on the way development rate slowed in general.
 
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manscout

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As much as I love shitting on this game Sierra was just the writer. She had nothing to do with the art, coding, etc. Her leaving definitely effected the development but let's be real, writing about some chick becoming an orc cumdump isn't exactly high tier literature.

The real issue is that the game has no direction. Sabia is still stuck in her shitty tent and has made zero progress towards her goal of revenge, the art is getting worse, and the dev doesn't seem to understand the concept of repeatable scenes which should be simple to implement since this game is using Ren'py.
Like 99% sure Sierra did the writing, coding, and game design before she left. The game design (how the quests work, how the variables are used to tell a story, etc) are night and day if you compare the content from before and after Sierra left. Coding is hard to say because this game is mostly just basic Ren'py, but I remember Nomo announcing after Sierra's departure that there would be 2 people to replace her, 1 writer and 1 coder, so not really hard to guess that she was the one doing both things before.

Nomo did art, character design, and story draft. By all means KoD is his brainchild, but the decline on being able to turn his ideas into a playable game after Sierra's departure is pretty evident.
 

NineteenNinetyNine

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The writing was 8.5/10 before the departure. More descriptive and with personality and generally hotter. The new scenes have more basic writing. Passable at like 6.5-ish level, but there's not much point in reading them anymore. It's not evocative, memorable, or add more to the scene. Sierra wrote in senses like smell, touch, temperature, and noise, but the new text is just lewd dialogue and talking about getting filled up.

In short... anyone know what Sierra's up to?
 

Negativpro0

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As much as I love shitting on this game Sierra was just the writer. She had nothing to do with the art, coding, etc. Her leaving definitely effected the development but let's be real, writing about some chick becoming an orc cumdump isn't exactly high tier literature.

The real issue is that the game has no direction. Sabia is still stuck in her shitty tent and has made zero progress towards her goal of revenge, the art is getting worse, and the dev doesn't seem to understand the concept of repeatable scenes which should be simple to implement since this game is using Ren'py.
I think Sierra worked on the coding too. NDS joined the team later on and no other person was mentioned working on the game.
 

Negativpro0

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The writing was 8.5/10 before the departure. More descriptive and with personality and generally hotter. The new scenes have more basic writing. Passable at like 6.5-ish level, but there's not much point in reading them anymore. It's not evocative, memorable, or add more to the scene. Sierra wrote in senses like smell, touch, temperature, and noise, but the new text is just lewd dialogue and talking about getting filled up.

In short... anyone know what Sierra's up to?


this her discord server, she is working on The last Sovereign, a game with way better writing. It is also baffling how much stuff she pulled out while Nomo and team where sleeping
 
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lostone2

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this her discord server, she is working on The last Sovereign, a game with way better writing. It is also baffling how much stuff she pulled out while Nomo and team where sleeping
Be aware that she is rarely active in that Discord channel. She really doesn't have the time for that.
 

Enigmanic

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The writing was 8.5/10 before the departure. More descriptive and with personality and generally hotter. The new scenes have more basic writing. Passable at like 6.5-ish level, but there's not much point in reading them anymore. It's not evocative, memorable, or add more to the scene. Sierra wrote in senses like smell, touch, temperature, and noise, but the new text is just lewd dialogue and talking about getting filled up.

In short... anyone know what Sierra's up to?
Check out her Patreon or Discord.
She also has a couple novels published.
 

BigBiggieBig

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Not too far away from May and there's total radio silence on their Patreon, the latest update isn't even mentioned in their blog, lmao.

Guess they're going all-in on their little echo chamber Discord server, kind of pathetic but also funny.
 

Negativpro0

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Not too far away from May and there's total radio silence on their Patreon, the latest update isn't even mentioned in their blog, lmao.

Guess they're going all-in on their little echo chamber Discord server, kind of pathetic but also funny.
They might be considering what to do since their patreon counts dropped significantly
 

Serena

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So, While I waited to get an update from the devs I actually gave some games that were recommend by People in this thread and some others a shot. Karryn's Prisons, Third Crisis and just now started playing Saria Reclaimed.
Now let's start with Karryn's prison it was a solid game all around. The corruption started slowly and by the end even tho my character was strong enough to take out the enemies normally, I had no choice but to defeat them sexual because Karryn's mind was super corrupted at that even I wanted to fight the enemies but her desires made it difficult and honestly that is how corruption works, the characters wants to something else but can't do it because of their desires. The passives that you unlock is an amazing system that might look useless but plays an important role in Karryn's behavior, if they are more on the lewd side, the more corrupted Karryn is and thus will be prone on doing and enjoying lewd things. The story was okay, I was not expecting that the final villain/boss will be (find out by yourself, his name doesn't start with Y, I am talking about eyepatchy) really came out of nowhere. Still I thought he didn't have much to do with the story and I liked how he turned out at the end. Nothing feels forced in this game, you can beat the prisoners if that how you want to play, you can be lewd, or you can do both. The higher difficult was a lot of fun to play on I played on hardcore and I lost first the first time but then I got the hang of it. Now this game implements a lot mechanics really well the combat, edict system and passive all work together to give you a satisfying feeling like a game should. OVERALL 9.85/10 (the story sort of lacks for me personally but overall the game has nice eroge and combat and their is not much to be expected from the story I mean it is about a lady trying to keep a prison in check and all).

Third Crisis:
Also very good, The game although feels like really rushes the corruption part and it kind of feels forced but still happens over the course of time, the bimbofication/ or hunger for sex I guess sets in slowly and really feels nice. You can actually get out of the city without getting too perverted or you can do the opposite you can become super perverted and do it instead. Now my most favorite route was the street whore route too bad it has an ending like I would've much preferred it the devs had integrated the drugs into the gameplay as a whole through that route instead of keeping it only exclusive to it. One of my most favorite scene from this game is in this route the foursome. So well done. Jenna slowly starts craving more and more cock to the point where she forgets she is a lesbian, though I did dislike some scenes that were forced but I guess that happened because I was waaay to perverted than what the game had anticipated the player would be from a story point of view. Still it is a great game with multiple ends and routes, corruption and bimbofication. Overall (8.5/10)

Saria Reclaimed:
The start reminded me of COC (Corruption of champions) their are so many possibilities. I have unfortunately not progressed that far into the game, and haven't reached the end of the current build but the start and the seemingly endless possibilities were enough for me to give it a shout out here. Like just because of this I am actually going to say that Overall it sits at (9/10).

If you haven't played these games yet I recommend that you do give them a chance and see what they have to offer. Thanks to BigBiggieBig for recommending Saria Reclaimed and I think Karryn's prison as well.
 
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