VN Ren'Py Kingdom of Deception [v0.14.2.2] [Hreinn Games]

[Negativpro0]

We already concluded that the programmer, Monsinne, is the main cause of development being so slow.
In the last post he said there is no ETA, like there ever was in the first place, that he is busy with family stuff. So Nomo being MIA or not is irrelevant. Only hope for some new content is in the community.

 

[souldead341]

We already concluded that the programmer, Monsinne, is the main cause of development being so slow.
In the last post he said there is no ETA, like there ever was in the first place, that he is busy with family stuff. So Nomo being MIA or not is irrelevant. Only hope for some new content is in the community.

Well, part of the thing is that without Nomo then they can only reuse the same art assets over and over, and many of those are the shitty ones made to "speed up' development. But, yes, the programmer does seem to be the main bottleneck in the release "schedule".

 

[Jinsoyun]

Well, part of the thing is that without Nomo then they can only reuse the same art assets over and over, and many of those are the shitty ones made to "speed up' development. But, yes, the programmer does seem to be the main bottleneck in the release "schedule".

Nomo is also the one who comes up with the story and the new character designs, so without him they can only release fillers and no real story progression.

 

[hejaziu]

who to open the console?

 

[Jinsoyun]

who to open the console?

The gallery mod in the opening post also unlocks the console. I don't know any other way to do it.

 

[Negativpro0]

Nomo is also the one who comes up with the story and the new character designs, so without him they can only release fillers and no real story progression.

What story? What characters? the characters are the same body type with a different face. The story has been incoherent and inexistent, since Sierra left.

 

[Jinsoyun]

What story? What characters? the characters are the same body type with a different face. The story has been incoherent and inexistent, since Sierra left.

Nomo came up with the story ever since the start of NN and Sierra wrote it down for him. The drop in quality is didn't happen because Sierra isn't here anymore to come up with new story, but rather because of the skill difference between Sierra and Monsinne to make a story immersive.

A good way to check this is to look into the patches that had little to no influence from Nomo, that were either solely up to Monsinne like the last two filler updates or the two patches where he kind of got out of hand and "wrote more words than any patch before", AKA the human tavern content and the new "orc training" stuff. The fillers are fillers because they don't have Nomo at hand to lead the story and the other two updates were significantly delayed because Monsinne got into a writing frenzy.

At the very least i think that these 4 recent patches show another significant drop in writing quality and especially in immersion.

 

[Viressa]

Also uhhh.. what does your mod do exactly?

Adds new "bonus scenes" re-using existing art assets with new writing. Some of them are serious attempts at erotica, some of them are just me writing shitposts I thought were funny. It was a fairly popular mod when it was new, I updated it for a friend so they could play it with the newest version of the game, so I released the updated version.

 

[FlyingSpaceRhino]

Maybe the real Kingdom of Deception was the patrons we scammed along the way.

 

[Jinsoyun]

Adds new "bonus scenes" re-using existing art assets with new writing. Some of them are serious attempts at erotica, some of them are just me writing shitposts I thought were funny.

You were ahead of time. That's basically what the devs did for the last 2 years.

 

[EpicReee]

Adds new "bonus scenes" re-using existing art assets with new writing. Some of them are serious attempts at erotica, some of them are just me writing shitposts I thought were funny. It was a fairly popular mod when it was new, I updated it for a friend so they could play it with the newest version of the game, so I released the updated version.

Ah I see, so it doesn't add NEW new stuff, but rather takes existing art from scenes like the orc-maid-tavern thing and reuses them under a different context / writing somewhere else?

 

[Viressa]

Ah I see, so it doesn't add NEW new stuff, but rather takes existing art from scenes like the orc-maid-tavern thing and reuses them under a different context / writing somewhere else?

Pretty much. They used to be integrated into the game at logical points but that was too much effort to keep updated. Now when you start a new game you get a choice between starting the game normally or a "scene gallery" like with the bonus scenes.

 

[Resemble5350]

For some reason i'm unable to access the Walkthrough through the link in the first post. I know there is a link inside that patreon post that was supossed to guide me to the post where the walkthrough is hosted, but it just don't work for me, i had to manually search. If anyone find a problem like that, here is the link of the last version of the walkthrough:

You must be registered to see the links

 

[Azi VonVeil]

looking at the tags and previews this looks like a rape simulator...am i wrong? how much of the sex is avoidable? is a lesbian play possible or is hat tag a lie?

 

[souldead341]

looking at the tags and previews this looks like a rape simulator...am i wrong? how much of the sex is avoidable? is a lesbian play possible or is hat tag a lie?

OK, like so many people you seem to assume the lesbian tag means the entire / majority of the game is lesbian. There are lesbian scenes, but that's not the main focus.

IIRC you can avoid most / all of the straight scenes, but it's not easy and there are some that are every hard / impossible to avoid (been a while, so just going by memory). Also, the more recent scenes are very much rape simulator / bimbo fetish straight sex. It didn't start as that, but the TLDR is the original writer(who had a more nuanced dom vs sub writing style) left, and now it's pretty much "MC is too stupid to avoid being raped".

 

[Azi VonVeil]

i never thought that lesbian tag meant the game was majority or entirely lesbian....hell 9/10 it means there is at leas ONE scene with two girls in it
" but it's not easy and there are some that are every hard / impossible to avoid "
" Also, the more recent scenes are very much rape simulator "
got it enough said....sad i liked the art....

 

[Negativpro0]

i never thought that lesbian tag meant the game was majority or entirely lesbian....hell 9/10 it means there is at leas ONE scene with two girls in it
" but it's not easy and there are some that are every hard / impossible to avoid "
" Also, the more recent scenes are very much rape simulator "
got it enough said....sad i liked the art....

There should be many lesbian scenes though. Even some threesomes with a guy that include Sesbian Lex.


You can download the game and a mod that unlocks all the gallery and then play those. Lesbian scenes are mostly with a character called Neve

 

[Azi VonVeil]

There should be many lesbian scenes though. Even some threesomes with a guy that include Sesbian Lex.


You can download the game and a mod that unlocks all the gallery and then play those. Lesbian scenes are mostly with a character called Neve

its not just about seeing the lesbian scenes..i don't really play theses games for the porn...well mostly. and even M/F/F is out of the question its the same as M/F...im only looking for F/F when it comes to sex scenes. and rape is a instant turn off....
what im after is good game play and a good story...but at the same time if im plaything female i want to have a lesbian story...even a game with so much hetero content like Caliross had a GREAT lesbian romance story mixed in...
but from what iv been told this game has unavoidable hetero sex, as the " MC is too stupid to avoid being raped " " and there are some that are every hard / impossible to avoid " impossible to avoid means its a no go for me...again thats sad...cuz i love the art

 

[Negativpro0]

its not just about seeing the lesbian scenes..i don't really play theses games for the porn...well mostly. and even M/F/F is out of the question its the same as M/F...im only looking for F/F when it comes to sex scenes. and rape is a instant turn off....
what im after is good game play and a good story...but at the same time if im plaything female i want to have a lesbian story...even a game with so much hetero content like Caliross had a GREAT lesbian romance story mixed in...
but from what iv been told this game has unavoidable hetero sex, as the " MC is too stupid to avoid being raped " " and there are some that are every hard / impossible to avoid " impossible to avoid means its a no go for me...again thats sad...cuz i love the art

Game had the potential for that, but sadly no. No great story and no focus on the lesbian relationship. You see them having fun with orcs in one of your first meeting.

 

[Azi VonVeil]

Game had the potential for that, but sadly no. No great story and no focus on the lesbian relationship. You see them having fun with orcs in one of your first meeting.

i see so the game started out with options for a lesbian play but when the original guy left the game just turned into a rape simulator...well thanks for the info..its sucks cuz i liked the art....