AnubiSs2167

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From my limited testing - its all the same - nothing was really changed in old content - sabia still kills the orcs in a bar even if i tried to make all sumbsive chocies...I gave up after the arena part.
 

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Okay, if there is no changelog, can someone at the very least mention what was added? Not just the sex scenes, but just in general.
A quick comparison of the files:
  • 152 scene images which boil down to 3 poses (73 images of the minotaur with the same pose and minor facial variations, 27 images of her drinking cum and getting groped, 51 images for an event named "living vessel" with only one pose again).
  • 12 new characters (no scenes, only portraits, there's some copy/paste work going on between a handful of faces and poses)
  • No changes in audio if anyone cares about this
  • Framework for two sizes of human villages, probably for next update, but I'm not sure since I haven't actually played the game yet
  • 271 files for the butt/boob groping mini-event. This is the most significant part of the update for me, since you can create a lot of interesting content with this
I think they spent a lot of time figuring out the modular groping scenes, but overall an underwhelming update, again. I think they actually teased every single art piece this update.
 
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Mayhem McGee

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It's pretty clear what happened here. I guessed before, but what you wrote confirmed it.

This wasn't meant to be the update at all. They have some other shit planned with a human town or something. What happened instead is that months passed and they realized they were not even close to having an update ready. So, they took whatever they had on hand (mostly the material meant to close out last update), maybe spent a month or two adding in the groping mini events/the new dom/sub material. Then they released it as an update so they could claim they release every six months.

It's not just embarrassing. They're actively lying about development. Kind of like how Nomo was obviously lying about being the narrative designer, because ever since Seirra left we've been in sidequest land.
 
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Honestly I would say no, there's only 4 scenes in this update and one of them is a variant of another (one normal version and one bad end version).

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Alright first scene is okay, second one is garbage. Third one would be great if it wasnt that twisted. What the fuck is that shit. She legit has horn up her heart or some shit.. Way too twisted. Still 5 months for this shit is sad.
 
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hakarlman

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Honestly I would say no, there's only 4 scenes in this update and one of them is a variant of another (one normal version and one bad end version).

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From my limited testing - its all the same - nothing was really changed in old content - sabia still kills the orcs in a bar even if i tried to make all sumbsive chocies...I gave up after the arena part.
They should give Sabia an optional choice to win them over with sex and recruit them into the Orc faction she sided with.

Killing them would've been fine for a non-porn game.

What sucks is that the bar groper scene builds up lots of sexual tension only to have it anti-climax into a non-sex scene (death of orcs).
 

Redgy

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Man, the new scenes were a bit too much for me. Seems like sub Sabia is suddenly tired of being a strong independent lady and insted ready to.. chug cum and spit. Cuz porn. And it's hot. Apparently. I imagine it only going to get worse for her from now on. Oh, well, there's still a dom route to look forward to.
 
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drebin

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Too bad that storyline doesnt work for me because of the bug ...
Not much to see, most likely just a set up for next update.
Basically the stable girl has fun with horses, and is really protective of them. According to Neve she is not someone to mess with. Unfortunately for Sabia, Kira wants these magestic beasts.
 

Kaynaru

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So,wtf? I have a dom Sabia as my main playthrough,cause i want her to let herself be dominated from time to time,that just a little fetish.But anyways,this update Dom playthrough gets one scene? The one with minotaur? WHAT? I guess i found an older save and played with Orshakar or whater his name is,but still thats pretty damn sad.And after 8.3 i remember they said that theyll give domSabia some love next time.God damnt.
 

hakarlman

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Man, the new scenes were a bit too much for me. Seems like sub Sabia is suddenly tired of being a strong independent lady and insted ready to.. chug cum and spit. Cuz porn. And it's hot. Apparently. I imagine it only going to get worse for her from now on. Oh, well, there's still a dom route to look forward to.
A submissive sabia shouldn't be strong and independent. What's the point of creating a dom path if both dom & sub share major qualities?
 

Lycan73

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Just checked out the CGs real quick... is it just me or is this update once again quite disappointing? Not in terms of quality (they look pretty great IMO), but most definitely in terms of quantity. It certainly doesn't feel like 5 months worth of content. Keep in mind I'm only basing this off of the CG's and I have not actually played the new update.

I can only pray that they sort things out and finally start releasing updates at any sort of constant rate... but I don't think it would be wise to get my hopes up given that it feels like we've repeated the same cycle of heavily delayed update with lackluster content for the last few updates now.
That doesn't sound good. I'm yet to play it myself, but from what you and others are saying, it looks like this update's fallen short, too. I'll reserve my final thoughts, though, for until I get to playing it.

By the way, give my regards to Michelle.
 

TheSexinati

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I believe there is a song expressing how I feel at this moment...

Ah yes, it was also written in the 1200's!


No prisoner can tell his honest thought
Unless he speaks as one who suffers wrong;
But for his comfort as he may make a song.
My friends are many, but their gifts are naught.
Shame will be theirs, if, for my ransom, here—
I lie another year.
 

Mayhem McGee

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Submissive Sabia still should be a Sabia. I dont mind this scenes later in the game but here it felt that somebody just pulled a trigger in her head
Yeah, that's a big part of it. Sub Sabia is a ruthless warrior thrown into a position where she has to play up her own powerlessness to achieve success. Only, she starts to like it. But, like, all of the material in the last few updates have fuck all to do with that, because she doesn't directly benefit from any of this. She's just kind of a pushover and nothing is goal oriented at all. She's off knee deep in the weeds doing stuff with the thinnest connection to her quest at all. Early period Sabia's actions always had very clear end goals related to power position.

What, she subs to the dumb shaman guy she's pushed around, because she breaks a jar, because wants him to attack stopping her tent but can't find another way, because she wants to control the sex tents, because doing so helps her vaguely motivate the troops more. The thread is still there if you search far enough, but a sense of purposefulness is lost the further off you go.

This is what was lost, even from Sub Sabia. Goal orientation.
 

AnubiSs2167

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This game needs complete rework of core gameplay. They made it that u need to replay it multiple time to see the scenes, and it doesnt all hang on one decision that u can save before, but whole chapters of gameplay to set up. Yet the game is grindfest slog. No matter how many scenes they add at the end - it doesnt matter. I remmber they promised to add consquences to ur stats in this update, like being groped randomly in bar etc. If there is no porn between main scenes then there is no reason to play other then rush to new content and put the game down. And after u realize that u have to replay the game to get scene u missed - its off to downloading somone else save. Looks like they dont play on implementing it afterall... Should just scrap the whole camp shit and just make it a vn with some meaningless chocies as it already plays like one , just with added roadblocks. This way i can atlest hold ctrl to see new scenes instead of playing this crap.
 

hakarlman

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Yeah, that's a big part of it. Sub Sabia is a ruthless warrior thrown into a position where she has to play up her own powerlessness to achieve success. Only, she starts to like it. But, like, all of the material in the last few updates have fuck all to do with that, because she doesn't directly benefit from any of this. She's just kind of a pushover and nothing is goal oriented at all. She's off knee deep in the weeds doing stuff with the thinnest connection to her quest at all. Early period Sabia's actions always had very clear end goals related to power position.
But there are loyalty attributes:

- human loyalty
- orc loyalty

If she's submissive, starts to like having sex with Orcs, AND becomes more loyal to Orc, then she benefits by acquiring sexual pleasure in her off time. It's the equivalent of experiencing sexual pleasure with humans after a long days work. Sabia having casual sex with Orcs pushes along the main narrative in the direction of her possibly changing allegiance to Orc.

If she was loyal to humans, then your argument starts to make more sense. If she has very little loyalty to Orc, then like you said, "she has to play up her own powerlessness to achieve success".

These are the four routes that IMO should lead to different scenarios:

-Dom Sabia loyal to human (she has to play up her own powerlessness to achieve success)
-Dom Sabia loyal to orc (let's her guard down with orcs, having casual sex, without being a pushover, her allegiance starts to shift to orc in big way)
-Sub Sabia loyal to human (she has to play up her own powerlessness to achieve success, but she's a push over)
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Sub Sabia loyal to orc (let's her guard down with orcs, having casual sex, but she's a push over, her allegiance starts to shift to orc in big way)
 
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Redgy

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But there are loyalty attributes:

- human loyalty
- orc loyalty

If she's submissive, starts to like having sex with Orcs, AND becomes more loyal to Orc, then she benefits by acquiring sexual pleasure in her off time. It's the equivalent of experiencing sexual pleasure with humans after a long days work. Sabia having casual sex with Orcs pushes along the main narrative in the direction of her possibly changing allegiance to Orc.
I mean, there is casual sex and then there is drinking cum from a mug (I'm just really confused how does one get off of that). I don't really know why would she stay loyal to orcs when all they do is call her a slut, a pig, a cumdump ect and constantly harass her. Dom Sabia actually manages to win their respect and her casual hook ups with, say, Lutvrog are a both dignified and pleasurable - she actually has a reason to trust orcs. Why would sub Sabia decide to stay on friendly terms with orcs after so much humiliation and abuse I've no idea. Probably cuz porn.
 
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