VN Ren'Py Kingdom of Deception [v0.14.2.2] [Hreinn Games]

[Retromancer]

I played through the update... (I think I haven't played since ver 10) and it was pretty terrible. Without getting into too many specifics, if you go down a submissive Sabia route, let me just say that every male should be wearing wife-beater shirts. It's not Sabia gets corrupted, it's Sabia is an abused woman who has Stockholm syndrome. I had high hopes for this game as playing a submissive who plays various factions against each other using wits and seduction and knowledge but that shit is totally dead. Thought it might get revived this update, nope. It never will. It's a rape game if you choose the submissive path. The devs should cut that path completely and the writer should never write anything with his version of "submissive women" ever again

 

[yawyeetah]

I played through the update... (I think I haven't played since ver 10) and it was pretty terrible. Without getting into too much specifics, if you go down a submissive Sabia route, let me just say that every male should be wearing wife-beater shirts. It's not Sabia gets corrupted, it's Sabia is an abused woman who has Stockholm syndrome. I had high hopes for this game as playing a submissive who plays various factions against each other using wits and seduction and knowledge but that shit is totally dead. Thought it might get revived this update, nope. It never will. It's a rape game if you choose the submissive path. The devs should cut that path completely and the writer should never write anything with his version of "submissive women" ever again

Totally agree, I thought the sub path was good at first but then it just became a shitfest with the same thing on repeat every time

 

[Lovelyhearts]

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Overview:
After centuries of struggle between races, humans have established the fearsome Kingdom of Lundar. Fueled by ambition and hunger for glory, the human forces are on the verge of completely annihilating all territories controlled by creatures that have not become vassals. The last hope of fighting off the human armies, a vast monster horde, has been defeated, leaving Lundar as the master of all. Their outside enemies defeated, the noble families and military factions of Lundar have quickly turned on each other in an internal struggle for power. In this vicious conflict, not even religious or family bonds will be spared.​

Thread Updated: 2021-09-17
Release Date: 2021-09-14
Developer: Hreinn Games

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Someone let me know when its available for android

 

[Enigmanic]

I played through the update... (I think I haven't played since ver 10) and it was pretty terrible. Without getting into too many specifics, if you go down a submissive Sabia route, let me just say that every male should be wearing wife-beater shirts. It's not Sabia gets corrupted, it's Sabia is an abused woman who has Stockholm syndrome. I had high hopes for this game as playing a submissive who plays various factions against each other using wits and seduction and knowledge but that shit is totally dead. Thought it might get revived this update, nope. It never will. It's a rape game if you choose the submissive path. The devs should cut that path completely and the writer should never write anything with his version of "submissive women" ever again

I completely agree with you. I've been supporting the game since 2017 and it's really disappointing that the game has taken this direction. What's worse is that the devs aren't very receptive to constructive criticism so at this point everyone in their Discord just goes with it and kisses their asses.

 

[jefferydomm]

Help please I'm stuck. I'm helping elmy trying to get her a discount. And I have completed all other events up to this and talked to everyone in all the town's and camps. Nothing!

 

[jefferydomm]

I like this game and have been playing it for a few years now. But gosh darn is it terrible to find out what you are supposed to do next. Like unless you have the walkthrough it basically fells like talking to everyone and resting until you stumble on to something for what feels like no reason.

 

[Enigmanic]

Damn is it really that bad? What's wrong with it? I haven't actually played the game in a long time, so I don't know.

Anyway, I never liked the idea of sub-dom paths, it's just more work and less unique scenes. Sub path was always going to be difficult to pull off given the game's theme and Sierra's departure just made it worse.

Sub/Dom routes in adult games can definitely work if it's carefully planned out and well written. Unfortunately KoD is plagued by lazy writing and a general fanbase of supporters who lack the courage and integrity to stand together and speak out about it.

If you follow the Dom route it's done reasonably well. Sabia uses her defiance and cunning to manipulate people into helping her achieve her goals. The downside is that there aren't enough decent Dom sex scenes.

If you follow the Sub route Sabia pretty much becomes a pushover and a whore. She tries to aim for her goals, sometimes getting by on pure luck, but mostly she just gets raped or gangbanged at every turn.

 

[savagesix]

I just saw an update in my feed that someone just tagged this game bestiality and I was really confused because for a second I conflated this with Noxian Nights and couldn't believe it hadn't been tagged that already

And then I got even more confused after I realized which game was which, because there's been beast scenes in this game for years also.

 

[Cerneu]

I just saw an update in my feed that someone just tagged this game bestiality and I was really confused because for a second I conflated this with Noxian Nights and couldn't believe it hadn't been tagged that already

And then I got even more confused after I realized which game was which, because there's been beast scenes in this game for years also.

Yeah, I was drawn into this thread by the sudden bestiality tag. From what I've read, it seems to point to some scenes featuring a Hellhound? Are they good and is it worth it downloading this game for just that alone?

 

[Enigmanic]

Yeah, I was drawn into this thread by the sudden bestiality tag. From what I've read, it seems to point to some scenes featuring a Hellhound? Are they good and is it worth it downloading this game for just that alone?

Not really. You have to do some work to finish a couple quests before you can get to the first sex scene with the hound. I'm personally not a fan of bestiality. As far as I can tell, the artwork was well done but the writing is mediocre.

 

[borkenone]

it seems to point to some scenes featuring a Hellhound?

there was also a scene with the Manticore monster before it somehow turned into a monster girl, if I remember correctly

 

[Xill]

Damn is it really that bad? What's wrong with it? I haven't actually played the game in a long time, so I don't know.

Anyway, I never liked the idea of sub-dom paths, it's just more work and less unique scenes. Sub path was always going to be difficult to pull off given the game's theme and Sierra's departure just made it worse.

Well, in the dom path, Sabia hardly gets fucked, Orcs and thugs or w/e for some reason cum as soon as they see or touch her.

If you want a path where Sabia just wants cock, you'd think that'd be the sub path but oh no. She just gets raped, not that text helps, because it makes you think that she both likes and dislikes it.

There was hope for the sub path in the previous update where she could lead orcs in her tent and have normal sex with her where she enjoys it, but that's nowhere to be seen in this update.

 

[borkenone]

There was hope for the sub path in the previous update where she could lead orcs in her tent and have normal sex with her where she enjoys it, but that's nowhere to be seen in this update.

Yeah the scenes in this update feels more like what you'd get trying to go the dom path but failing dom test.

 

[KoterKarl]

I was hoping the dom path ends up with her growing a cock herself. Guess that's not happening?

 

[Enigmanic]

I was hoping the dom path ends up with her growing a cock herself. Guess that's not happening?

No, but iirc during the tense discussion(argument) in the dev's Discord a while back concerning Sierra Lee's departure I think someone mentioned that was one idea SL had for the story.

 

[Retromancer]

Damn is it really that bad? What's wrong with it? I haven't actually played the game in a long time, so I don't know.

Anyway, I never liked the idea of sub-dom paths, it's just more work and less unique scenes. Sub path was always going to be difficult to pull off given the game's theme and Sierra's departure just made it worse.

If you want a path where Sabia just wants cock, you'd think that'd be the sub path but oh no. She just gets raped, not that text helps, because it makes you think that she both likes and dislikes it.

Yep, the Sub path is a rape-fest. If Sierra was around she could have made the path interesting but the current hacks writing the game have no interest in it as you can tell for yourself from the bored and lazy writing. It's rape, rape, rape. I don't mind some non-con stuff but this is just way too much, and it's completely idiotic in the way it's written. There's no way to save this path, it's terrible and because dumb patrons will riot if it gets cut, the devs will not have the courage to start focusing on the plotlines that might make more sense, streamline the game and push out updates faster

 

[Umbra.Nox]

Yep, the Sub path is a rape-fest. If Sierra was around she could have made the path interesting but the current hacks writing the game have no interest in it as you can tell for yourself from the bored and lazy writing. It's rape, rape, rape.

Eh, wasn't it Sierra's idea to have rape at the very beginning of the game? I'm pretty sure there was something about it, that Nomo or someone else argued and removed it to have smooth and slow pacing instead.

Anyway...

If you told me that this had been put together at extremely short notice I would believe you.

Yes, this looks EXACTLY as if they were working at the game exclusively around the deadlines. I finally got around playing and apparently unblocking f95(site isn't blocked, but the parts are, which made it nearly unusable), wanted to agree with you a lot of time ago. Since i do scenarios in different games, with different amounts of coding, i'm sure i can say that this shouldn't take anywhere near to 9 months of work. Without inventing any new code, without having to draw pictures, only taking and inserting them in a very simple way, copy and paste lines at worst... Well. At least this doesn't look malicious, looks more like a student syndrome - leaving everything on the very last moment.

Sure hope they'll stop with that, realizing the consequences of losing such easy work to this kind of weakness, and will start to do updates a bit more consistently.

 

[souldead341]

Eh, wasn't it Sierra's idea to have rape at the very beginning of the game? I'm pretty sure there was something about it, that Nomo or someone else argued and removed it to have smooth and slow pacing instead.

No idea on who wanted to implement the initial rape scene, but I honestly don't buy that it was only removed for pacing. It was removed right around when patreon started cracking down on certain types of adult content, like bestiality and rape. I don't recall if Hrienn ever got flagged for review specifically, but removing a rape scene from the very beginning of a game is a way to hide that the content is in the game, since I doubt patreon would dig very far into a porn game to search out later scenes' content (kinda obvious since so much rape is in later game scenes.)

 

[Rule97]

honestly i saw the cg scens from 0.10 onwards and honestly, even if its daring from me to to say so without context, most of them are just repetitive and not that good frankly, which is a shame this game could ahve been great but between the great drop in writing and a somewhat lack on quality, im not sure it is worth keep checking up for it, hopefully devs reconsider a lot of things and change their mindset regarding what game they want to make

 

[Retromancer]

Eh, wasn't it Sierra's idea to have rape at the very beginning of the game? I'm pretty sure there was something about it, that Nomo or someone else argued and removed it to have smooth and slow pacing instead.

I don't know whose idea it was to have the rape scene at the beginning of the game, and I don't think we will ever know. But that wasn't my argument, so thanks for ignoring it. My argument is that the sub Sabia path is a moronic fucking rapefest and that it would have never degenerated into this stupidity if Sierra was still the writer. It's just terrible "me fuck Sabia because she wet slut for Orc (Minotaur, whatever) dick" dialogue over and over, with Sabia at first hating being raped then accepting it. It is terrible storytelling because the same shit happens over and over again. Say what you want about Sierra's games, but they aren't this dumb.