Ren'Py Kingmaker [v0.17] [Kingmaker]

[KingmakerVN]

I came here because I've just finished Pathfinder Kingmaker but this is disappointing. EH.

I would say it's your own damn fault for pitting Mike Tyson against a baby

 

[KingmakerVN]

No matter what i do I either run out of money or everyone hates me sometimes both it needs to be made significatly easier to actually be enjoyable to play this game like add what the decision will do next to the option and have ways of making money that are something other then selling off a bit of land to a merchent and thats it

Today I was actually adding something like a cheat mode, or an easy mode with less mechanics. But right now it's definitely not balanced to be played for that long, but at least I managed to play far enough to see all the content.

 

[KingmakerVN]

Is this like a medieval porn version of the Tropico series or something?

It would be if I had played it rather than let it gather dust on steam. I like to think it's a super watered down version of ck2.

 

[KingmakerVN]

No matter what i do I either run out of money or everyone hates me sometimes both it needs to be made significatly easier to actually be enjoyable to play this game like add what the decision will do next to the option and have ways of making money that are something other then selling off a bit of land to a merchent and thats it

Ah yeah, but to be more precise, I don't know if I'll add that you can see what the choices do, but I definitely will add something to make more money, as well as loans so there's money to be invested.

 

[firefall132]

Well this is ball breakingly hard. Sure would be nice to know what the land upgrades do, but they take forever to build and to get the gold to make them I need to piss people off so much I get excommunicated and everyone hates me because I seem to just passively lose support forever due to taxing people and the only way to make it go up without pissing someone else off is to spend gold I don't have. *sigh* Managed to limp along to see some of the nobles arrive at least, but god damn.

 

[KingmakerVN]

Well this is ball breakingly hard. Sure would be nice to know what the land upgrades do, but they take forever to build and to get the gold to make them I need to piss people off so much I get excommunicated and everyone hates me because I seem to just passively lose support forever due to taxing people and the only way to make it go up without pissing someone else off is to spend gold I don't have. *sigh* Managed to limp along to see some of the nobles arrive at least, but god damn.

I'm definitely thinking right now of adding an easier mode, or even one with cheats. Next time I think I'll finally finish all the mechanics that I wanted to implement, which should make getting money to invest and investing more easy. Right now however you only really need to last till week 20, more or less. What I do when I play is make the nobility tax higher, and everyone else lower for the first month. After that it shouldn't be that ball busting.

 

[breeder400]

Thank god, thought this game might have been abandoned. Really cool concept, please keep it up!

 

[KingmakerVN]

Thank god, thought this game might have been abandoned. Really cool concept, please keep it up!

Thank you, that made my day. I never really abandoned it, it was just a matter of me getting busy and also finding a working process that worked for me.

 

[nielsen145]

hey look at the bright side, if you're going for historical accuracy adding incest wouldn't be that far fetched, the Habsburg family tree ended being closer to a family circle by the end of it

not only them, look at europe`s blue line, most of it, is inbred marriages.

 

[KingmakerVN]

not only them, look at europe`s blue line, most of it, is inbred marriages.

Yeah, I believe that's why most of them had hemophilia. Why I singled them out it's because even though I don't remember exactly where I read it, I remember reading that it was so particularly bad among the Habsburgs that a marriage between cousins or an uncle and niece was worse than than if it was between siblings outside of that family. But I don't remember where.

 

[nielsen145]

Yeah, I believe that's why most of them had hemophilia. Why I singled them out it's because even though I don't remember exactly where I read it, I remember reading that it was so particularly bad among the Habsburgs that a marriage between cousins or an uncle and niece was worse than than if it was between siblings outside of that family. But I don't remember where.

good example of it, take a look a King George and the Russian Zar, they look like brothers, but they are cousins

 

[KingmakerVN]

good example of it, take a look a King George and the Russian Zar, they look like brothers, but they are cousins

That's another good example, and one that really is strange the more you think about it.

 

[Miscellaneous NPC]

What's the game to porn ratio in this game? And what genres/fetishes are in it?

 

[KingmakerVN]

What's the game to porn ratio is this game? And what genres/fetishes are in it?

Well right now there's 3 h-scenes. 2 are vanilla, but one of them can be changed to incest in the options. And there's one that's a bit on the maledom side with an older woman. It doesn't take much to get them either.

 

[Miscellaneous NPC]

Ah. So a bit more focus on the actual game aspects. I can dig it. I'll probably wait til the development is a bit further along before I get fully invested, but if the gameplay loop is good and the quantity/quality of the adult content is good down the line then I'll no doubt be watching with interest. I can get behind a management game with some difficulty, IF the game is fun.

 

[KingmakerVN]

Hahaha I'll try to deliver. Thank you! Right now I'm definitely on the balancing stage, and I still need to add a couple of mechanics.

 

[DA22]

Hahaha I'll try to deliver. Thank you! Right now I'm definitely on the balancing stage, and I still need to add a couple of mechanics.

One advice, first add the mechanics and then do the serious balancing or you keep balancing and loose a lot of time with that, that could be used on moving story forward and add story and H-content. Only balance inbetween if new mechanics will take very long to add.

As an extra it was not only the noble families that suffered from inbreeding, since travel was kinda hard, most more secluded smaller communities suffered from same thing and from genetics standpoint It would indeed be safer to do it with your brother if one of your parents came from outside that community as marry an official complete stranger that would be 20th generation inbred in that community.

 

[KingmakerVN]

One advice, first add the mechanics and then do the serious balancing or you keep balancing and loose a lot of time with that, that could be used on moving story forward and add story and H-content. Only balance inbetween if new mechanics will take very long to add.

As an extra it was not only the noble families that suffered from inbreeding, since travel was kinda hard, most more secluded smaller communities suffered from same thing and from genetics standpoint It would indeed be safer to do it with your brother if one of your parents came from outside that community as marry an official complete stranger that would be 20th generation inbred in that community.

That's really good advice! Right now I was actually thinking of finishing the two or three mechanics that I have left to do, rather than just keep making one per build. Not only for balance sake, because you're right. It's hard to balance things that are not complete, but also so I can make them more cohesive, since right now the mechanics are not interacting as much as they should, and that also creates problems because I then need to go back to rework stuff that I already did every time.


Funnily enough, mechanics like those are the thing that takes the least amount of time to do. Once I do that I'll be able to truly push the story and h-scenes forward.


Lol it's good to learn that good old inbreeding wasn't reserved for the ruling class.

 

[DA22]

That's really good advice! Right now I was actually thinking of finishing the two or three mechanics that I have left to do, rather than just keep making one per build. Not only for balance sake, because you're right. It's hard to balance things that are not complete, but also so I can make them more cohesive, since right now the mechanics are not interacting as much as they should, and that also creates problems because I then need to go back to rework stuff that I already did every time.


Funnily enough, mechanics like those are the thing that takes the least amount of time to do. Once I do that I'll be able to truly push the story and h-scenes forward.


Lol it's good to learn that good old inbreeding wasn't reserved for the ruling class.

Yup to first.

For the second, well if there are no real options around as someone that is related to you in five or six ways if go back a generation or 3, then inbreeding becomes a necessity instead of a fetish. Also remember that it was kind of important for the overwhelming majority of the working poor to marry of daughters pretty young since they were a drain on the family and also the boys tended to work from very early age and there is no time to wait for fresh blood to appear. Added to that people tended to die pretty young and for women childbearing was cause number one. Those times were not great if you did not belong to the elite.

 

[nielsen145]

here is little history lesson, about denmark, not something you learn in school, its well covered up for some reason.
anyways, more than 100 years ago, if you owed money to someone and could not pay back, the standard was to marry your son or daughter to the person who you owed money too, resulted in many child-adult marriages.
exsample, you marry your 10yeard old son/daughter to a 30-50 yeared old woman/man.