VN Ren'Py Kings and Pawns [v0.2.0] [ArchMoe]

[_SerapH_]

Incest with NTR planned? Step.

 

[korochan48]

I hope Prof Parson will be back in the present divorced.

 

[Samuel Hidayat]

For those who question why a Dev would put a question about a "LI" past relationship. It could simply come down to understanding their past trauma, and sexual fetishes, giving the "LI" more character-building and personality depth" if you do something to trigger old wounds. This simply gives the dev more ground to build off of in the long run with rich story telling.

What started the debate is the dev planning to show scenes of LIs with their past flings/romances. Many don't like that, even if they're optional since those unwanted scenes will take a bulk of the dev's time and effort.

 

[Acsuka]

I'm not interested in the "past NTR" debate... I'm definitely not going to watch the scene because it's bullshit (my opinion)... I want to talk about something else... The end of the office sex scene is pathetic... It's a "pussy" MC.. .It's clear that the couple is cheating on each other... An alpha MC takes advantage of this situation and fucks Lora hard in front of her husband... Cum in her pussy and shows Lora that she can get it another time... MC nothing to worry about because Horas caught them anyway... In this situation he could just win and not leave with "blue balls"... It's a confidence boost and Lora will love MC in the future...
And don't tell me what would happen in reality... blah, blah, blah...
This is an AVN game and you should get it because it increases the interest of the players...
Instead, well, let's see what we got...

 

[TKdropemoff]

(actually, two) LI can be asked about their personal lives in the past. Both of these female characters will have the opportunity to tell in detail (and I plan to show scenes) where they had sex with other male characters.

 

[rafa30]

More Lisa please.

 

[Yeetmen27]

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Damn, I know the MC mentioned he was a drug addict, but I didn't think it was to the point that he had poppy seeds growing on his dick. Condolences to the girls that get fucked with that, it looks like it would feel about the same as getting fucked with course-grit sandpaper.

Those are actually pearly penile papules, completely normal. Has nothing to do with any infection of any sort or any medical reaction. Thank you for attending my ted talk.

 

[Zeronero]

Those are actually pearly penile papules, completely normal. Has nothing to do with any infection of any sort or any medical reaction. Thank you for attending my ted talk.

They may be normal but I find the sight of them disturbing and I think I'm not the only one who thinks that way. I hope the developer of this game changes his mind and removes them from the game. Otherwise, not a bad start.

 

[FuhQ314]

Those are actually pearly penile papules, completely normal. Has nothing to do with any infection of any sort or any medical reaction. Thank you for attending my ted talk.

Yeah even as a guy I'm no expert on dicks other than my own and even back in the day in the boys' locker room I never really looked that close at them to check, I just wasn't THAT curious. Although I've never seen it in porn either, although that could be because the director considered it unphotogenic or the would-be amateurs were too self-concious about it.

 

[FuhQ314]

More Lisa please.

As much as I'd love that not many devs ditch half their income by pissing off Patreon (though some have a spine along with some creative integrity and just move to SS only). Could be partly why he put MC's sis in jail, she stays there and the actual incest doesn't happen until the end of a 5-year sentence in the epilogue (though I do hope that's just my pessimism talking, could also go the other way and he gets her out of jail and she shows her gratitude with a hug and a kiss, then BJ, then she rides him that ends with a creampie that gets her pregnant, but maybe/probably something in between those).

 

[FuhQ314]

What started the debate is the dev planning to show scenes of LIs with their past flings/romances. Many don't like that, even if they're optional since those unwanted scenes will take a bulk of the dev's time and effort.

Yeah I really don't wanna see or even know about Lisa's or whoever else's other fucks before the MC got to them, especially after now knowing they were each other's first kiss. Granted even though expecting everyone to be a virgin even in their 20's outside the Middle East is unrealistic that doesn't change anything as far as what most people want in the AVN they are jacking off to (usually fantasies bordering on ridiculous like incest harems, the polar opposite of real life relationships and their drama and bullshit that they are mostly trying to escape by reading said AVN).

 

[Overlord070]

Some kind of mass madness about NTR. I apologize if I somehow incorrectly expressed my intentions regarding tags, because this is my first release so far. Well, one (actually, two) LI can be asked about their personal lives in the past. Both of these female characters will have the opportunity to tell in detail (and I plan to show scenes) where they had sex with other male characters. I wanted to add these moments to the characters' memories, not just for the sake of tags, but to understand some of the actions, motivations, and behavior of the characters in the part of the game that concerns the present. The MC will have the option not to ask the girls about it, as any guy in real life would not want to know about his girlfriend's previous boyfriends.

MC:"Hey LI why are you such a bitch"

LI:"Well, MC, it all started in that summer of 19 when I was dicked down by college football team and none of them called back, let me tell you in graphic detail how they fucked me up"

MC:


Anyway I'm just joking, for me past relationships aren't NTR but I also don't see the need to include them as scenes in the game.
In any case good luck with the project.

 

[xXwankerXx]

What started the debate is the dev planning to show scenes of LIs with their past flings/romances. Many don't like that, even if they're optional since those unwanted scenes will take a bulk of the dev's time and effort.

I really don't wanna see or even know about Lisa's or whoever else's other fucks before the MC got to them, especially after now knowing they were each other's first kiss. Granted even though expecting everyone to be a virgin even in their 20's outside the Middle East is unrealistic that doesn't change anything as far as what most people want in the AVN they are jacking off to

Dev's obviously free to do whatever they want and think it's best for their game, no simple user on a pirate forum or Patreon can change that if they don't want it to, but they should also take into account what ppl post here and the important fact that pointless scenes that add absolutely nothing of value to the story like that, avoidable slash skippable only or not, only slow down the development, cost them money, time, resources, and, as in most cases in non NTR games, a good chunk of their income, due to supporters leaving them for pulling a stunt like that.

Nobody might be able to force the dev to change their mind on this, but everyone can act accordingly if they really proceed to do that and protect their and their wallets' interests.

I personally think the story's pretty good so far and there's no need for pointless 'technicalities' or flashbacks like that, but if the dev decides to go with his plan cuz some cucks on his patreon or Discord bribed him to do this, he should take into account the risk of losing at least a few of his current supporters and the possibility to make potential new ones stay away from the game, something that wouldn't be a good business strategy in the long run.

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Oh c'mon, bro. Don't you find it hot and entertaining to hear a woman you been flirting and wanted to start a serious relationship with keep bringing up her exes, how good they used to fuck her, in which positions, who had the biggest and the smallest dick and whatnot in conversations you two would be having on dates ?? It's how some ppl (textbook definition of cucks) are probably dating these days... fuck romance, loyalty, jealousy and possessiveness, gotta get with the times, I tell ya.

Could be partly why he put MC's sis in jail, she stays there and the actual incest doesn't happen until the end of a 5-year sentence in the epilogue (though I do hope that's just my pessimism talking

You make a good point. I mean, the MC was dumb enough to believe his married teacher, who got cheated on by her husband, wanted to become his GF after he fucked her, or she fucked him to be more specific, once, so anything's possible. His sis could sit there for 5y, and during this time, get her holes stuffed with all kinds of nasty shit, from crazy long and thick BBCs to random futa dicks all the way to dog dicks that somehow got there for 'the plot' and some real disturbing kinks, OR she could get out sooner, if the MC somehow manage to get her a good lawyer, and do all the spicy stuff with him, as her first love, instead. Who knows ??

MC:"Hey LI why are you such a bitch"

LI:"Well, MC, it all started in that summer of 19 when I was dicked down by college football team and none of them called back, let me tell you in graphic detail how they fucked me up"

Let's just call that damn ho Aliza Jane or Celina Powell, and ppl will know AND have a mental picture of the story's about.

for me past relationships aren't NTR but I also don't see the need to include them as scenes in the game.

Same here. I don't think NTR fans will be too happy with them either, so why the dev would try to shoot themselves in the foot like that is still one real weird mystery to me.