Ren'Py Lab Rats 2 - Reformulate [v2025 4.0.37]

[vonbek]

There is no correct or incorrect order. You just need to put the files in correct location as described here:
https://f95zone.to/threads/lab-rats-2-mods.32881/post-10251178

I had twice in Vanilla > BF > Renpy > Mod and got the wardrobe fail.

Moment I did Renpy then BF it got the Position Error that when line edited allowed launch, that however threw errors left right and centre in game.

There is obviously something wonky if you doBF then Renpy rather then Update > BF since it threw the exact same error both times from clean extract.

Anyhoo, time to unpack the "just needs mod" archive and slap in the stable-ish March 8.

 

[vitamin433]

I had twice in Vanilla > BF > Renpy > Mod and got the wardrobe fail.

Moment I did Renpy then BF it got the Position Error that when line edited allowed launch, that however threw errors left right and centre in game.

There is obviously something wonky if you doBF then Renpy rather then Update > BF since it threw the exact same error both times from clean extract.

Anyhoo, time to unpack the "just needs mod" archive and slap in the stable-ish March 8.

Why not just grab full release from the bottom of OP and update the "mod" folder?

 

[Aloof_Tooth]

Why not just grab full release from the bottom of OP and update the "mod" folder?

There's been numerous changes to the bugfix in recent weeks which I believe newer versions of the mod rely on - so you'd need to download and apply the newer bugfix too.

 

[vitamin433]

There's been numerous changes to the bugfix in recent weeks which I believe newer versions of the mod rely on - so you'd need to download and apply the newer bugfix too.

But last

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was on... Jul 21, 2022? And the

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was on 2022-07-21 19:50:50.

Back again to my question: why not ????

 

[Porrvald]

I had twice in Vanilla > BF > Renpy > Mod and got the wardrobe fail.

Moment I did Renpy then BF it got the Position Error that when line edited allowed launch, that however threw errors left right and centre in game.

There is obviously something wonky if you doBF then Renpy rather then Update > BF since it threw the exact same error both times from clean extract.

Anyhoo, time to unpack the "just needs mod" archive and slap in the stable-ish March 8.

Lab-Rats-2-bugfix.zip only puts stuff in Game folder but nothing in Game\Mods folder
lr2mods-develop.zip only puts stuff in Game\Mods folder and is the only file doing that.
Lab-Rats-2-renpy-Update-to-v4.7.11.zip only puts stuff outside Game folder.

So, no it is impossible for the order to make any difference since none of the files are overwriting each other.

My bet is that you are still screwing up the target location for one of the files or that you are not starting with original vanilla game folder.

 

[Ennoch]

Finally figured out these beta bugfixes.. somebody could have told me earlier

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Go to this page.

You will see this. Notice that icon with Master? Switch that to Bugfix.
This will switch to the newest bugfix. Click Code, on the right and you can download latest bugfix.

Why not just grab full release from the bottom of OP and update the "mod" folder?

Simply.. the all-in-one bundle doesn't serve it's purpose at all anymore, one has to manually update each part of it if wanting to have an up-to-date mod which renders the bundle's only convenience null and void.

It's bugfix is outdated and won't be compatible with recent Mods files. It doesn't have the ren'py fix. You want to update your Mods regularly. Basically if you use the bundle now you will have to do a manual install on top of it anyway. That is.. you are just doing a manual setup with extra steps with the bundle

 

[Porrvald]

But last

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was on... Jul 21, 2022? And the

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was on 2022-07-21 19:50:50.

Back again to my question: why not ????

In addition to Ennochs answer, the full download doesn't seem to be based on latest vanilla version.
Lab_Rats_2\game\presplash.png from Full download, contains honey comb pattern in the background while the latest vanilla version doesn't.

The splash screen itself of course makes no difference, but it does show that that full download + replace Mods folder is not the same thing as clean install with manually installed mod.

 

[Ennoch]

In addition to Ennochs answer, the full download doesn't seem to be based on latest vanilla version.
Lab_Rats_2\game\presplash.png from Full download, contains honey comb pattern in the background while the latest vanilla version doesn't.

The splash screen itself of course makes no difference, but it does show that that full download + replace Mods folder is not the same thing as clean install with manually installed mod.

By the way. Use the latest bugfix then. The issue discussed earlier was in fact fixed. Can use the latest Mods. I edited my previous posts.

 

[vonbek]

Lab-Rats-2-bugfix.zip only puts stuff in Game folder but nothing in Game\Mods folder
lr2mods-develop.zip only puts stuff in Game\Mods folder and is the only file doing that.
Lab-Rats-2-renpy-Update-to-v4.7.11.zip only puts stuff outside Game folder.

So, no it is impossible for the order to make any difference since none of the files are overwriting each other.

My bet is that you are still screwing up the target location for one of the files or that you are not starting with original vanilla game folder.

And my bet is you have no clue what I do for a job or how much actual correct placement of both physical items and indeed firmware/software/hardware and order of operations matter in it, or indeed how relevant order of operations can be for both hardware and firmware/software deugging in said job.

Or indeed just ignored that I'd be using the same files for Van/Renpy/BF so the order would be the only changed variable in the matter.

Considering that it's reproducable in one order with the same locations, but a different order will then allow both "vanilla" game boot and then with the mod installed to the specified location also produces a single error ( position, that is a manual edit to fix ) then something is caused by the order being different.

But sure, continue to be a snidey jackass without any actual basis or knowledge of the situation beyond "I bet they did something wrong because my brain can only handle that concept vs they might actually know how to do proper bug/fault tracing and something is happening."

 

[Porrvald]

By the way. Use the latest bugfix then. The issue discussed earlier was in fact fixed. Can use the latest Mods. I edited my previous posts.

Yes, you are absolutely right about everything, including the need to use the latest bugfix

Personally, I'm right now very curious how many small fixes Tristim has left in the todo-list, before running out of things to fix, which would then probably be a good time to make a new full download.

 

[vonbek]

Yes.

Much appreciated, grabbed that and threw it on top of the "Everything works and is ready for Mod inject" version from the backup RAR from last night. Game boots fine and seems to have zero issues so far vs trying to use the latest commit which seemed to throw them about every 3rd action.

I'll keep an eye out for anything bugging, but I'm guessing anything from that commit is now that old that the bug reports have no real value to the folks in the Discord?

 

[Porrvald]

And my bet is you have no clue what I do for a job or how much actual correct plecement ot both physical items and indeed firmware/software/hardware and order of operations matter in it, or indeed how relevant order of operations can be for both hardware and firmware/software deugging in said job.

Or indeed just ignored that I'd be using the same files for Van/Renpy/BF so the order would be the only changed variable in the matter.

Considering that it's reproducable in one order with the same locations, but a different order will then allow both "vanilla" game boot and then with the mod installed to the specified location also produces a single error ( position, that is a manual edit to fix ) then something is caused by the order being different.

But sure, continue to be a snidey jackass without any actual basis or knowledge of the situation beyond "I bet they did something wrong because my brain can only handle that concept vs they might actually know how to do proper bug/fault tracing and something is happening."

I was actually just trying to be helpful.

I can only feel sad for you and your employer, if you can't accept that it is impossible for the install order to make any difference, even after I bothered to double check the facts and detail it for you.

 

[Ennoch]

I'll keep an eye out for anything bugging, but I'm guessing anything from that commit is now that old that the bug reports have no real value to the folks in the Discord?

As it turned out there is a new bugfix, always was, out there it was just available from a location i wasn't aware of So you can safely download the latest commits, they work, after you applied the latest bugfix! As it turned out, bugfixes are like commits. There are a master file (outdated) and regularly updated "develop" ones. Not quite in the way as commits are.

Link in one of my above posts.

 

[Porrvald]

And just to make it clear if anyone is confused:
1. Install original game files from post 1.
2. Install all 3 files from Beta section in post 1.
3. You now have the absolutely latest version of the mod, including the latest bugfix.

 

[Ennoch]

And just to make it clear if anyone is confused:
1. Install original game files from post 1.
2. Install all 3 files from Beta section in post 1.
3. You now have the absolutely latest version of the mod, including the latest bugfix.

Now i feel like a complete fool of a senile boomer It was really all there but i am so used to manually download commits to see what changes i can expect i totally forgot that Beta section

 

[vitamin433]

In addition to Ennochs answer, the full download doesn't seem to be based on latest vanilla version.
Lab_Rats_2\game\presplash.png from Full download, contains honey comb pattern in the background while the latest vanilla version doesn't.

The splash screen itself of course makes no difference, but it does show that that full download + replace Mods folder is not the same thing as clean install with manually installed mod.

About "doesn't seem to be based on latest vanilla version"

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Looks like it is based after all.

About bug-fix:
Bug-fix wasn't updated for almost 1 year. If I'm wrong: prove it with link. I would love to be wrong here.

About mods:

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Well hug me, didn't know about

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link to freshiest pack of mods. Noice. Gotta start a new game once again...

 

[Porrvald]

About "doesn't seem to be based on latest vanilla version"

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Looks like it is based after all.

The full download contains correct version of the splash screen because you can't share pictures?

About bug-fix:
Bug-fix wasn't updated for almost 1 year. If I'm wrong: prove it with link. I would love to be wrong here.

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[vitamin433]

The full download contains correct version of the splash screen because you can't share pictures?

No, I can't see the picture after posting it here, so I have no idea how it looks, it's size or if it was blocked, cuz I used a not very popular pic-hosting.
Strangely enough, I can see all ads, signatures and oreview pics on "latest" page.

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Now this is what I was looking for.
Thx.


Lol, just realised, that I was talking about latest stable version, and you guys about latest beta. Feel so embarased right now.

 

[zenupstart]

New latest stable updated to 0.51.3.1, still based on the 0.51 vanilla version published by Vren.

 

[Porrvald]

Lol, just realised, that I was talking about latest stable version, and you guys about latest beta. Feel so embarased right now.

Shit happens

It was actually a good idea to use full download and simply replace the mods folder. It was just unfortunate that it won't work.

As to beta version vs stable version:
This link, which has been posted repeatedly in the last week, pretty much says it all:

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And I personally like this change extra much:

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It was extremely annoying that you could randomly get a sister (or any special person) with grandma glasses and only remove them via consol command.