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Yes, it would for sure be a big undertaking.

But I am also thinking that if it is created with easy expandability in mind, from the very start, then I could very much end up not having to create much content at all.

For example, if all actions, events, dialogue trees and resources, would be external, then I could put all focus on making the UI and game world flexible enough for that to work well.

Then if someone wants to add a zoo with a 400 pound gorilla, some custom actions and NTR events, well good for them. As long as it fulfills all technical requirements, it may even be included in the installation and made available via options.

The more I think about it, the more I like the idea.

Difficulty level just increased significantly, but also motivation :)
If you did manage to pull this off, it'd be amazing, so let us know if you actually manage to get anywhere with this.
 

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Well, there's always the enetics of free sex in Lab Rats, as legacy of Vren. It's pretty obvious to me why he gravitated towards that theme since corruption to the greatest extend is the erasure of all decency and self-awarness. There's that extremum where all social boundaries are broken, all faith are discarded, and all normalcy be destroyed for the sake of it. The women are lab rats, they are to be deparved of free will and be made to do things for the sake of their abusers. Hence, the original exhibitionism and free use training, which enables events such as Lily's bukkake and Jennifer's office orgies. Of course, in these cases they are still acting under MC's whims, so I never consider it NTR, it's more swinging (which, the storyline with the yoga instructor in this mod is potentially going into)

Regardless, I don't know how things have changed since about a week ago, but according to Roadmap.txt on gitgud

In September they will begin prototyping for Patch 2, among the planned objectives include progress Jennifer's office storyline alongside the introduction of her personal assitant storyline for MC

I, for one, would prefer if the original plot left by Vren be continued in LR1's spirit.
Read that development roadmap and just saw this line "Figure out by this month what we are doing with graphic overhaul and funding. Are we making a patreon? subcribestar? If patreon begin pivoting away from incest content"

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO This game is one of the last surviving proper incest games, please don't sacrifice that to Patreon
 
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Read that development roadmap and just saw this line "Figure out by this month what we are doing with graphic overhaul and funding. Are we making a patreon? subcribestar? If patreon begin pivoting away from incest content"

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO This game is one of the last surviving proper incest games, please don't sacrifice that to Patreon
As I remember, there was a vote on the discord and it was nearly completely in favor of subscribestar. This game isn't in any danger of erasing incest. I think the next update is getting content for Jennifer and the last was for Rebecca
 

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console.

first command to enter is
Code:
long
it will stop renpy from cropping the output (very annoying for long lists)

Code:
list_of_traits[#].name
returns the name of the #th trait (production schemes are mechanicaly a trait too), begins at 0 -> list_of_traits[0].name

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dir(list_of_traits[0])
returns all the fields of the first trait. selected excerpts with more guess than knowing what they do:

attention - increases serum attention penalty containing this trait when sold to public
duration - all traits are summed up to final serum duration
side_affect_chance - all traits are summed up to determine the randomly assigned trait effect chance when unlocking (mastery reduces that chance)
slots - adds trait slots (duh)

to use these, enter like name:
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list_of_traits[0].slots = #
where # is the new number

tip: always use commands without parameters first to see what its set as to get an idea for the usage
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list_of_traits[0].slots
displays as
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list_of_traits[0].slots
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report to link this in the opening post was refused. shooter682 ping to include this list in your comment linked on front.
 

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Considering a game which is already trying that (and looking at the results), I can wholeheartedly say HELL NO.

I don't think that 3D can offer anything worthwhile that can be presented in a reasonable amount of dev time and effort.
Which game would that be? If you are referring to Lab Rats 2, then I would say that it is exactly my point.

The problem with the current 2D system is not so much that it is 2D. The problem is that it can't be improved without huge work effort. Vren tried and failed to solve that problem with Live2D.

In any case, I have now pretty much decided that I will try to remake most of the game mechanics as text only in Godot.

Assuming that it doesn't fail or end up as a big nothing burger, then the next logical step would be to implement new graphics instead of re-adding the original graphics. But technically both options would be possible.
 

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You can't hire her until after Ophelia complete story and then talk to Candace many times, twice each with all talk options.
Then you can get the talk option with Ophelia about Candace.
Apolgies for digging up an old comment, but i'm stuck at this part here.

I have talked all there is to Candace, and have gotten the message to talk to Ophelia, but no such option appears with Ophelia. I know for a fact that I have done this in the past (pre-reformulate)
 

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Apolgies for digging up an old comment, but i'm stuck at this part here.

I have talked all there is to Candace, and have gotten the message to talk to Ophelia, but no such option appears with Ophelia. I know for a fact that I have done this in the past (pre-reformulate)
I have not played in a long time now so you will get a answer from the discord faster than here.
 

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All this talk about the visuals. I'm honestly ok even if this was done on Honey Select or no visuals tbh. It's the options/dialogue/expositions that make the game great for me. As mentioned before, Tristim and Starbuck are good at what they do. If anyone wants to donate time to do the visuals, by all means go ahead, then they'll probably realize how gargantuan the task is and how much work Vren had put into this initially.

HootieMcBoob
You have to talk to Candace to the point where she'll say "I'm worried about there being backlash from my boyfriend" and you do an inner monologue saying Ophelia can help out. There should be an option in the righthand column for Ophelia going forward "Talk to about Candace" or something. If you don't see that, you possibly have not completed the Candace part yet or your game is glitched.

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You're probably playing a newer version than me where you can hire maids. I don't think Naomi is officially unlocked until you progress Sarah's story deep enough though. I remember I used to bang Naomi before Sarah until she was restricted by Sarah's story.

GrizzlyUK
Yeah the condom thing is just so they ask you to use a condom each time. It might be for those people with the kink of doggy styling the girl and giving her a surprise creampie.

MC Non Consent is if you are ok with your MC being raped. There is currently a story arc with Stephanie's younger sister (I think) where she's a Dom. If you turn on that setting, you might get pegged by her or something. That also hints at the Roleplay vs Enabled (raped or fake rape)

Left column is the serum you have in your pockets (can be used on girls to drug them, cannot be sold)
Right column is the serum in your business (can be sold, cannot be used on girls to drug)
Right column is what should be sellable in your marketing division.
 

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Vren had the game all the time on Patreon, in spite of the incest.
I have no idea how this game survived on Patreon so long with Vren, because I'm pretty sure Patreon also doesn't like Mind Control, and while maybe that ban is more against hypnosis...
 

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Read that development roadmap and just saw this line "Figure out by this month what we are doing with graphic overhaul and funding. Are we making a patreon? subcribestar? If patreon begin pivoting away from incest content"

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO This game is one of the last surviving proper incest games, please don't sacrifice that to Patreon
Wait there is a graphic overhaul planned?
 

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While graphics would be nice, I'm so glad they are working on the story first. I havr been playing this game on and off for years and love what the modders have done with it.

I would really like an APK file at some stage to make it easier to add new versions on to an android device
 

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Yeah the condom thing is just so they ask you to use a condom each time. It might be for those people with the kink of doggy styling the girl and giving her a surprise creampie.

MC Non Consent is if you are ok with your MC being raped. There is currently a story arc with Stephanie's younger sister (I think) where she's a Dom. If you turn on that setting, you might get pegged by her or something. That also hints at the Roleplay vs Enabled (raped or fake rape)

Left column is the serum you have in your pockets (can be used on girls to drug them, cannot be sold)
Right column is the serum in your business (can be sold, cannot be used on girls to drug)
Right column is what should be sellable in your marketing division.
Thanks for the explanation of those two settings, good to know what they actually do.

I know what the columns are for when viewing the Production Stockpile. The problem I had was that two Serums were showing as 0 in there (under both columns) but when viewing the Check Stock (button on bottom left on the main interface) that was showing the two serums as having quantities. Producing only those two serums was adding to the quantities displayed in Check Stock, but still nothing showed in the Production Stockpile, so I wasn't able to transfer any of them to the players inventory. Guess my original explanation wasn't clear enough on the issue I had. While the serums were available to be sold, they were not available to be transferred to the player for actual use. But no matter, I decided to simply delete those save games and the Persistent file and start a fresh new game. *shrug*
 
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hmm i dont think i ever came across a bug like that. but... usually i made serums that were way stronger and effective than the blue purple red anyways xD

edit: i dont think i ever used "check stock". i only used the production stockpile
edit2: yeah just checked my game. dont see any check stock or whatnot. only production stockpile and it's never had anything weird.
 
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Can someone explain what these Settings (In-game Preferences) mean?
Embedded NTR
Game Speed
MC Non Con


Haven't played in a while so I'm completely clueless.
Somewhat self-explanatory, but still want to be sure I'm not misunderstanding them.

Edit 1: Only had to play through the standard "intro" (Start a new game), for some explanations.
So used to that not being a thing I defaulted to asking about it.

Edit 2: Query for anyone who knows: What would happen if you set the Body Type, Cup Size, etc. settings for randomly generated characters to 0?
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Edit 4: Game seems to be running so much more smoothly compared to the last time I played.
 
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Can someone explain what these Settings (In-game Preferences) mean?
Embedded NTR
Not really NTR with girlfriends (maybe one day).
Just mom and sister have their own sexual life like all other women in the game. When you sleep at home, they can meet a friend, only in text.
 

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Not really NTR with girlfriends (maybe one day).
Just mom and sister have their own sexual life like all other women in the game. When you sleep at home, they can meet a friend, only in text.
Ah so it's basically one of the old options in the mod settings page from a while ago.
 

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hmm i dont think i ever came across a bug like that. but... usually i made serums that were way stronger and effective than the blue purple red anyways xD

edit: i dont think i ever used "check stock". i only used the production stockpile
edit2: yeah just checked my game. dont see any check stock or whatnot. only production stockpile and it's never had anything weird.
In the early part of the game you can't really create the best serums because you haven't unlocked the higher tiers of research, so recreating the Blue, Purple and Red serums is an easy way to get some basic serums for use early on. I have a number of custom serums that I create later on, once I've unlocked and researched all tiers, especially the top tiers you obtain from Nora. With the right combination of traits obtained from Nora you can create some of the best possible serums! Well, I'm guessing those are still as effective as they were 3 years ago, I've not yet gotten far enough into the game to actually see how they perform nowadays.

"Check Stock" is the button at the bottom of the company stats over on the left side of the screen. Top part is the player related stuff: Outfit Manager; Check Inventory; Character Sheet; Perk Sheet; plus the player stats. Middle section is the Goal Information. Bottom section is the company stuff: company name; Employee Count; Company Funds; etc. The very bottom button is "Check Stock". When you click on it you get a new window that shows the total serums you have waiting to be sold or sitting in your production stockpile, basically it's your total business stock. That button can be clicked any time, anywhere, you don't need to be in any of your company areas.
 
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