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Mr. Muscles

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Replaying the game again, I don't think there's such a game where the writing truly picks up as much as it does here after the first episode/debut. Throughout the first episode, one can think this would be another anime-like AVN with nonstop references throughout, but during episode 2 that thought takes a backseat as the characters finally start to shine. Good stuff.
 
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-Kuro-

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Respectfully, I could not have given less of a flying fuck what my (now ex) wife thought of ANY of my actions after we separated. Not me but what she did. Neither of us had that right any longer. It's not like MC walked out of Elsas house and told Brian they fucked. It's none of his fucking business if they did or didn't, not anymore.
POETRY ON ITS FINEST JAJAJAJAJ

btw i call every MC.. Michael Miller (M & M) jajaja
 

mruggeri2

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Man, its crazy how we are 4 episodes in and there is not a single Rose scene. Her character is basically completely ignored outside of this "best friends" dynamic. There is next to zero development on anything remotelly romantic between her and MC. Even Lana, who is not even a main LI, gets more development than Rose. It's insane.
 

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Man, its crazy how we are 4 episodes in and there is not a single Rose scene. Her character is basically completely ignored outside of this "best friends" dynamic. There is next to zero development on anything remotelly romantic between her and MC. Even Lana, who is not even a main LI, gets more development than Rose. It's insane.
easy to answer.. most of the girls need to get a background with MC.. guess what.. ROSE ALREADY HAS IT.. she needs no developement in that aspect.. only in the love area.. and guess what.. most of the girls didnt have that either.. unless u consider couple kisses or a fuck a development.. XD
 
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easy to answer.. most of the girls need to get a background with MC.. guess what.. ROSE ALREADY HAS IT.. she needs no developement in that aspect.. only in the love area.. and guess what.. most of the girls didnt have that either.. unless u consider couple kisses or a fuck a development.. XD
What do you mean they didn't have any development? Taylor, Miranda, Olive, Aurora, Elsa... They all had great development in their relationships with MC. Aurora went from the bully who everyone hates to the lovestruck girl who put her whole career in line for MC and can't stop wanting to be near him all the time. Taylor opened up about her trauma, something she had only told Samara, to MC and is comfortable in being vulnerable to him. Elsa is basically risking her job and career. Miranda trusted MC with who she is and opened up to him about her condition, which in turn she was happy to see how he accept her and even started learning sign language to be able to speak with her. Olive went from the shy girl who was secretly taking pictures of everyone because she can barely talk to anyone, to someone who is able to assert herself at times and make friends.

Even Danielle and Samara had some development. The only ones who barely had any or didn't have any at all are Sana and Rose.

I do agree that she have the background with MC, so she doesn't need as much development in that area as the others, but still 4 episodes in already ffs. Even if slow, she should've been getting SOME kind of development in a direction to a romance.
 
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-Kuro-

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What do you mean they didn't have any development? Taylor, Miranda, Olive, Aurora, Elsa... They all had great development in their relationships with MC. Aurora went from the bully who everyone hates to the lovestruck girl who put her whole career in line for MC and can't stop wanting to be near him all the time.

Even Danielle and Samara had some development. The only ones who barely had any or didn't have any at all are Sana and Rose.

I do agree that she have the background with MC, so she doesn't need as much development in that area as the others, but still 4 episodes in already ffs. Even if slow, she should've been getting SOME kind of development in a direction to a romance.
they had friendship development... not romantic..unless u consider what happened with taylor, olive, miri, aurora or samara a romance... they are getting close but call anything of that a romance is way to much. Guess what Mc already has with rose.. they are already close!! so her developement is not so "impactfull"

she had some developemt but u dont realize... they kissed.. ok drunk kiss but they kissed and you can say her kiss was the best, she asked him if he would date a girl like her..she asked him about what are her assets, if u answer her but, the way mc answers points he is paying atention to her as a woman... they even kind of flirt ( daddy texts and her pictures) she even got into his bedroom naked ( towel covered but naked), there it was developement but no so "visual" as with other girls..its just not as "bold" as with other girls.. with Sana for example the developement was almost none..at least as i see..just a kiss if u say u like her.. thats not development at all..

As u said4 episodes... have u asked how many are planned? imagine its 20/30... having much developement so fast.. would not be a wise idea
 

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What do you mean they didn't have any development? Taylor, Miranda, Olive, Aurora, Elsa... They all had great development in their relationships with MC. Aurora went from the bully who everyone hates to the lovestruck girl who put her whole career in line for MC and can't stop wanting to be near him all the time. Taylor opened up about her trauma, something she had only told Samara, to MC and is comfortable in being vulnerable to him. Elsa is basically risking her job and career. Miranda trusted MC with who she is and opened up to him about her condition, which in turn she was happy to see how he accept her and even started learning sign language to be able to speak with her. Olive went from the shy girl who was secretly taking pictures of everyone because she can barely talk to anyone, to someone who is able to assert herself at times and make friends.

Even Danielle and Samara had some development. The only ones who barely had any or didn't have any at all are Sana and Rose.

I do agree that she have the background with MC, so she doesn't need as much development in that area as the others, but still 4 episodes in already ffs. Even if slow, she should've been getting SOME kind of development in a direction to a romance.
I agree rose gets sidelined a lot. She is the last person to find out about stuff a lot of the time and we the MC are still hiding stuff from her like every other girl we are banging besides lana she knows about lana. I think it gets acknowledged that in ep4 when you tell rose about the letter and if you admit you told aurora first. I think going forward rose will get more attention. At least she should. Even if we are on the friend path with her I think we deserve the chance/choice to get her input on the girls we are banging and other things developing. Will is even starting to become a better best friend than rose and even Alan the MC seems to rely on them more than rose for everything. Rose is still ahead because of amount of time she has been the MC's friend but the gap is closing.
 
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If i understood correctly, Season 1 is the fuck around and be a whore season where choices don't matter much, right? and Paths start to matter in Season 2, did i get that correctly?
 

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If i understood correctly, Season 1 is the fuck around and be a whore season where choices don't matter much, right? and Paths start to matter in Season 2, did i get that correctly?
That is correct, currently it seems that a few choices matter, but not many.
In E4 you can still fuck around, but it's split between less girls (5 main girls per path)and we already get to hear how a couple of the MG's and their friends think about MC having multiple (bed)partners.
Imo it's pretty much confirmed, that as the franchise goes on, we need to be more careful with every episode about fucking around.
 
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So, I'm doing my Neutral path run and Sana is greyed out for me. Why is that? Did the one choice I made back at ep 2 or 3 back then just completely closed her path for me even at later episodes? I mean, she is asking me if I can see this going into a relationship and yet I have no option to say Yes just because I didn't a few episodes ago?
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Chillout1984

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So, I'm doing my Neutral path run and Sana is greyed out for me. Why is that? Did the one choice I made back at ep 2 or 3 back then just completely closed her path for me even at later episodes? I mean, she is asking me if I can see this going into a relationship and yet I have no option to say Yes just because I didn't a few episodes ago?
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It will only be active if you answered "yes" in season one after this dialogue:
MC "Well, maybe you can answer this: if I could be a friend to Viktor ... what could I be to you?"
Sana "... I don't know. But I'm quite eager to find out."
Sana "Aren't you?"
 

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It will only be active if you answered "yes" in season one after this dialogue:
MC "Well, maybe you can answer this: if I could be a friend to Viktor ... what could I be to you?"
Sana "... I don't know. But I'm quite eager to find out."
Sana "Aren't you?"
Yeah, but this is what is weird. Why can't I change my mind here and pursue her? It's not like she had much development at all in Season 1. So its bullshit that I get completely locked out of her path just because of a choice I made in a single scene whatever many episodes ago in the past season.
 

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Yeah, but this is what is weird. Why can't I change my mind here and pursue her? It's not like she had much development at all in Season 1. So its bullshit that I get completely locked out of her path just because of a choice I made in a single scene whatever many episodes ago in the past season.
The only lore reasons I can think off is that Sana is still feeling hurt and doesn't want to give MC a second chance or that she thinks MC could never seriously change his mind in such a short amount of time. She does seem like a character that would take such a thing this serious to me.
 
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