VN Ren'Py League of Miles [v1.0] [49th Universe]

[49thuniverse]

Even considering the graphics being "worse" than in the top rated games (faster to set up/render) I feel like that amount of content (in that time) would make you literally the most productive avn dev? I mean hell there is only 26k hours real time in 3 years I feel like the math on how much you have to produce per hour is pretty ridiculous. Even with that i will still check it out.

Thank you. We truly admire how many games have such high-quality visuals, but we plan to make up for that with storytelling. We know our limitations and what we can do with the skills we have. That’s why, if we can build a player base and get support, we hope to hire better artists in the future. And yes, we’re a team that has a lot of fun while working on this. We’re working every waking moment.

 

[49thuniverse]

That's... very ambitious. Hope you have a lot of it outlined ahead of time.

And I guess 15 years will give you a lot of time to fine tune your renders.

Best of luck.

Its actually, 15 years refer to the in-game timeline. We are telling a story that spans 15 years And yes, hope we could get there

 

[joryh]

You maybe could/should add that in this "Universe" and that modifications of some genes made for unique looks and a new sense of beauty exists now. Cause these models look kinda weird somehow in the previews to me.

May as well be claymation.

 

[OhGodNotAgain]

Everyone looks like they are made of wax.

 

[Dbsjnsnssksksj]

Rendered in Eevee I see.

 

[Simpgor]

Im someone who can get over an "art style" pretty easily but on top of the characters "looking weird" (mostly in faces), they are "posed" in what I assume is the default position of just A posing (hands to side without touching their sides) with hands open fingers spread out way too often, or if they are sitting or something they are almost always facing directly ahead or if they arent they still arent looking "correctly", you also have an issue of characters "holding things" but they are really just floating on their palm.

You can see every single one of these issues in the previews A posing in the 6th one (makes more sense in context there though), people "not looking in the right direction" in both the 3rd and 7th, and the thing with the hands in the 1st, 3rd, 4th, and 7th......

The story felt a bit expository but that is not a shock considering you are introducing as many characters as you are, as it stands now I dont think anybody who focuses on graphics will be able to play this and even people like me who claim to be story first might still have a hard time because 99% of the renders feel "wrong" or "uncanny" or just clearly arent the "norm" anymore. That being said the animations I saw were pretty smooth considering the rest of the graphics.

 

[49thuniverse]

Im someone who can get over an "art style" pretty easily but on top of the characters "looking weird" (mostly in faces), they are "posed" in what I assume is the default position of just A posing (hands to side without touching their sides) with hands open fingers spread out way too often, or if they are sitting or something they are almost always facing directly ahead or if they arent they still arent looking "correctly", you also have an issue of characters "holding things" but they are really just floating on their palm.

You can see every single one of these issues in the previews A posing in the 6th one (makes more sense in context there though), people "not looking in the right direction" in both the 3rd and 7th, and the thing with the hands in the 1st, 3rd, 4th, and 7th......

The story felt a bit expository but that is not a shock considering you are introducing as many characters as you are, as it stands now I dont think anybody who focuses on graphics will be able to play this and even people like me who claim to be story first might still have a hard time because 99% of the renders feel "wrong" or "uncanny" or just clearly arent the "norm" anymore. That being said the animations I saw were pretty smooth considering the rest of the graphics.

Thank you for this great feedback. We believe improvements comes from hearing such comments.

 

[Ozygator]

Thank you. We truly admire how many games have such high-quality visuals, but we plan to make up for that with storytelling. We know our limitations and what we can do with the skills we have. That’s why, if we can build a player base and get support, we hope to hire better artists in the future. And yes, we’re a team that has a lot of fun while working on this. We’re working every waking moment.

I'll give the release a shot, but saying now.. There are other games with in-game rendered visuals/models that are much better than this, and in your three year completion time frame those other games visuals will only get better.

Having a great story is just one component to a game. It's like if you have a great book, with a story of a lifetime in it, but the cover is torn off partially, pages are ripped and smudged by dirt, burn holes, a few pages missing, etc, all of that detrimentally impacts the story. Your visuals are already 3-5 years behind even the other moderately successful games that have game generated models (I could name the other games that come to mind but won't unless you ask).

You will only fall further and further down the list of games people flock to unless the models *dramatically* improve, but like 500% since you're already about 90% behind other major games with game generated models/graphics. Not trying to shit on your efforts, just stating the facts.

 

[49thuniverse]

I'll give the release a shot, but saying now.. There are other games with in-game rendered visuals/models that are much better than this, and in your three year completion time frame those other games visuals will only get better.

Having a great story is just one component to a game. It's like if you have a great book, with a story of a lifetime in it, but the cover is torn off partially, pages are ripped and smudged by dirt, burn holes, a few pages missing, etc, all of that detrimentally impacts the story. Your visuals are already 3-5 years behind even the other moderately successful games that have game generated models (I could name the other games that come to mind but won't unless you ask).

You will only fall further and further down the list of games people flock to unless the models *dramatically* improve, but like 500% since you're already about 90% behind other major games with game generated models/graphics. Not trying to shit on your efforts, just stating the facts.

Thank you for your comment, we are absolutely aware of this reality. Our goal is not to create the most realistic or stunning models and visuals—we know there are already outstanding works out there that we can't compete with in this area. Our aim is to make a game that is unique and improved in its own way.

The reason we started this project was because we didn’t initially see those amazing graphically detailed games. We were more inspired by games with visuals similar to ours. Otherwise, we know some games have character models that are on par with AAA titles, and if those were the first games we encountered in this industry, we probably wouldn't have started this project at all.

Of course, it's impossible to satisfy everyone’s tastes, but we will do our best. Some will definitely not be satisfied, while others may enjoy it.

 

[Antiker]

I love big and comprehensive games when a good story and good graphics make the game worth playing over a long period of time.
Fully agreeing with Simpgor's post #26 and Ozygator's #28, I am sure that many players, despite a good story,
will not last 500 hours with such * loveless * graphics.
I really hope that you will find ways and means to make your ambitious project * more loving * and make us players hungry and expectant for future updates.
Good luck with the realization.

 

[Saint Blackmoor]

I haven't played this yet (waiting on compressed), but from what I gleaned from the overview and preview pics and comments, this game would be better served as an HTML game.
Ozygator makes a good point about the visual side taking attention away from the story.
An HTML game would focus on the story and, if the story is good, build a player base.
I wish the dev success.

 

[bobobarbarian]

For some reason I so very badly wish this was a game about a league of superhero's all named Miles

 

[btrain33]

LoL....NTR tag is missing....here it comes!

 

[skyrfen]

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[katabasi]

ugly

 

[Humhom Nunje]

I think the graphics are a dealbreaker for the majority of the people, me included, and I've played my fair share of janky looking games because of an interesting story.

Relying on proven assets give the opportunity to reach a wider audience and focus on quality in terms of story, characters, and content.

 

[49thuniverse]

Thank you for your interest and feedback. This is our first game development experience, and we are fully aware that we've made plenty of mistakes. We're collecting all of your critiques, and we see this as a great opportunity to improve the game further.

 

[WayneDwayne]

why dont you just use daz for the renders? making a game in blender is so hard to make something look good. maybe with a lot of experience and skill u can get something that looks stylied like that game called hooked.

but otherwise no point to work so hard to make blender models when they look very ugly. rather use daz and make a better image way quicker.

 

[49thuniverse]

why dont you just use daz for the renders? making a game in blender is so hard to make something look good. maybe with a lot of experience and skill u can get something that looks stylied like that game called hooked.

but otherwise no point to work so hard to make blender models when they look very ugly. rather use daz and make a better image way quicker.

Thanks for your advice, We can absolutely try Daz.

 

[WayneDwayne]

Thanks for your advice, We can absolutely try Daz.

It's great that you're so open minded, I'm sure blender knowledge will be useful when applied to Daz. Daz is pretty easy to learn and if you look at the top games on this site they are either using daz or honey select.

So using Daz you will surely be able to make gorgeous renders and your dream game!