Least Favorite Game Trope?

[Deleted member 134393]

I'm not sure why this is so common, maybe its a problem on my end. but I have seen a lot of games that are basically all extremely poorly written dialogue, no discriptions. its basically just

"ah ah, give me big dick, my pussy so wet, ah, i cant take it, cummmmmmmmmiiiiiiing"

and it just goes back and forth with dialogue like that non stop, with nothing else. no descriptions of the action, the smells, the sounds, the feelings, ect. an it seems to be extremely common.

that and stilted dialogue.

 

[DarthSeduction]

I'm not sure why this is so common, maybe its a problem on my end. but I have seen a lot of games that are basically all extremely poorly written dialogue, no discriptions. its basically just

"ah ah, give me big dick, my pussy so wet, ah, i cant take it, cummmmmmmmmiiiiiiing"

and it just goes back and forth with dialogue like that non stop, with nothing else. no descriptions of the action, the smells, the sounds, the feelings, ect. an it seems to be extremely common.

that and stilted dialogue.

That's an interesting complaint. I don't have a problem with it on it's face, but, a question, does the art not also advance in some way? Personally, as a writer, I prefer to show, not tell. Granted, you won't get scents from that... but I'm also not sure if that's something I'd want to do with my female protag game (guys seem to have a hard time empathizing with a female character once she's having sex)

 

[Deleted member 134393]

The scent does not need to be overly grotesque or if its something that you would not want to smell. a good example is the game I work on, I do the art, writing and programming. I don't use something like renpy because I need a lot of flexibility for what I am doing, I am aiming to give the best of both worlds, visuals that are arousing as well as text that further enhancing that experience, if the person wants to take the time to actually read it. not everyone does, but I imagine there is probably a sizable portion that DO read the dialogue and sex scenes, or else things like corruption of champions would not be so popular. but that is beside the point. The problem is this, someone does slight variations, and it's all very, VERY poorly implemented dialogue. I could post a bunch of examples, but as a game developer I make it a point to not come off as attacking or criticizing another developers project directly.

I am a biological female, so maybe its something that only women really enjoy(I don't really think it is), but knowing things like the fact the faint smell of sweat is there, or the slapping sound from a cock being violently thrust in and out of the targets ass, or that the monster bee girl smells like lavender and her "honeypot" vague taste of her womanhood and honey, or the description of an engorged cock leaking precum, or even as far as the salty, or bitter taste of a rope of cum as it slides down the womans throat. these are all things that turn a bland, image only experience into something much better. I could probably let a game get away with just the dialogue and changing of the images, but it would still need to have some care in it's craft. how many times has someone been so fucking lazy, they can't even be fucked to spell out the dialogue properly. its "u" instead of "you" and other such things. or they can't be bothered to implement a line break and integrate a description of the action currently happening.

instead of:

kate: "oh wow, we were really in trouble back there"
kate giggles nervously, wiping her brow.
kate: "well if you need help again, let me know."

it's instead:

kate: "oh wow u almost got grabbed back there LOL" ^_^

the second is common enough that I have been able to take note of it.

maybe I am just being picky, or i'm a bitch when it comes to criticism, but it just seems really lazy to me.

 

[Volta]

Without trying to be "that guy" women are generally more smell and taste oriented than men, evolution has seen to that, men are more visually oriented than women for the same reasons. This may sound odd but it this originates from the hunter gatherer period, a good sense of taste saved your life for a women and the same can be said of good eyes for men be it hunting or avoiding predators.

I do have to jump on the band wagon though about dialogue. the "ahhh Ohhh Cummiiing" gets old pretty fast, i think it could be a hang over from porn videos, somethings don't make the jump from live media to read media very well, it's why reading a play script is so much less effective than hearing it read or perfomed. Basically people are not experienced at writing and even fewer are experienced at writing a dialogue driven format, i know it's been a harsh learning curve for me.

 

[Deleted member 134393]

Without trying to be "that guy" women are generally more smell and taste oriented than men, evolution has seen to that, men are more visually oriented than women for the same reasons. This may sound odd but it this originates from the hunter gatherer period, a good sense of taste saved your life for a women and the same can be said of good eyes for men be it hunting or avoiding predators.

I do have to jump on the band wagon though about dialogue. the "ahhh Ohhh Cummiiing" gets old pretty fast, i think it could be a hang over from porn videos, somethings don't make the jump from live media to read media very well, it's why reading a play script is so much less effective than hearing it read or perfomed. Basically people are not experienced at writing and even fewer are experienced at writing a dialogue driven format, i know it's been a harsh learning curve for me.

as much as some get pissy over it not being politically correct, men and women are NOT the same. men naturally gain muscle significantly faster and with less effort, along with a lot of other things. so I really don't think you are being "that guy" when you say something thats true and basically reality.

 

[Catapo]

These might have been mentioned already but I'll add them anyway:

Shitty dialogue: I don't really mind it but sometimes good dialogue enhances the scenes for me

Douchebag males that are nothing but a-holes and all the girls submit just cause he has a big member or something

Unrealistic breast / dong sizes - Imagine the pain of having to carry those around

Sudden jumps in scenes - One scene the girl reluctantly gives a BJ and next scene she is enjoying a gangbang it just feels too sudden

Not being aware of previous scenes:
I know it is more of a design problem and it's not easy to fix but it feels wrong when the girl just took part in a gangbang and another scene she blushes at the idea of seeing a naked guy

Not really a trope but an issue I have with RPGM usually is having menus that are not relevant to the game or never used eg: Items / Formation / Status ... or giving me an Equipment menu but forcing me to change outfits from other menus ... why?

 

[baneini]

Unrealistic breast / dong sizes - Imagine the pain of having to carry those around

I don't understand the gigantic dick fetish. Why does anyone like or accept scenes where women have bodies made out of rubber? As for women having gigantic breasts it's even more bizarre. The bodies never look right, balances or aesthetic, they look like normal women with anime boobs pasted on and most likely the ass looks like a basket ball that forms a 90 degree angle, the resulting effect is putrid.

When the dev of the game has such drastic disagreement of what a visually pleasing human body looks like it's best to avoid their game entirely. It's like watching alien porn. It's bizarre because you'd think most humans find similar body proportions and features desirable, golden ratio and all. Large sagging breasts are signals of old age, pregnancy, obesity and so on. Babies know what a beautiful face is but some people find even that difficult to grapple with.

It's a puzzle I'd want to learn some plausible theory to explain.

 

[Boogie]

Large sagging breasts are signals of old age, pregnancy, obesity and so on.

Well, you are touching on a separate trope there, the large breast rarely sag in these games. Even the mothers of three children have usually have perfectly, perky, breast.

 

[Oshitari Azumi]

I definitely get the "punished for doing it the fun way" part being stupid, mainly if it ends with a game over instantly. Like, I know there are games where realism is first, or building a world is first or whatever, but it's called a game for a reason. Just let me have my stupid fun, and if there's a punishment don't make it so game-changing that I have to restart the game just for that (obviously an exaggeration, but still).

Personally, and this is probably the stupidest trope to bring up, and I personally hate games where the MC is denser than steel. I'm okay with the guy being oblivious at first like in VNs such as the Majikoi series since the MC is (mostly) surrounded by girls that he's called his friends all his life and now he's developing feelings for them. But in any game where the MC is either so dense that either:
a) he won't bang chicks unless they're buck naked and asking for it in front of them, or
b) he's just so dense he doesn't understand that females would develop feelings for him/her at all

Granted, that second one is directed more towards animes and the like, but I think I've gotten my point mostly across.

 

[lukazil]

I'm getting tired of Incest games where the MC has a mom and 2 sisters, and it's always the same freaking thing,
The mom is a repressed pervert (probably was a pornstar/model)
the older sister is a bitch that'll become a sub
the younger sister is completely ignorant and you'll end up teaching her sex/love.

It's not even that I hate that trope, but the whole household-incest-harem thing seems to have been beaten to death, buried in the pet sematary, and now runs around infecting everything.

 

[Deleted member 134393]

I'm getting tired of Incest games where the MC has a mom and 2 sisters, and it's always the same freaking thing,
The mom is a repressed pervert (probably was a pornstar/model)
the older sister is a bitch that'll become a sub
the younger sister is completely ignorant and you'll end up teaching her sex/love.

It's not even that I hate that trope, but the whole household-incest-harem thing seems to have been beaten to death, buried in the pet sematary, and now runs around infecting everything.

it always seems to be the most popular though. most people who try to iterate from the standard formula are kind of shit on though. i catch hell from time to time for having a female protagonist and a focused story instead of a generic system that just generates sex scenes based on some variables.

 

[woody554]

I'm so done with asshole hero tropes, both male and female. the bitchy big sister, the asshole macho MC.

dreams. no early dream sequence should EVER show sex. probably not even nudity. if you must have a dream sequence, make it about your story and not a spoiler.

slut aunt. yea I get the MC needs someone to vocalize his pervy plans with, a partner in crime, but just for once don't make the aunt your pervert twin who's instantly on board with anything. there's so much story you could squeeze out from getting her there first.

easy throaway sex. I get this is personal and some people want exactly that, but the easy characters make me just speed-click past them until the next part with the hard to get girl.

not a trope, but I passionately hate exposition of the writer's educational background. nobody care's about your programming, economic or military background in tedious infinite factually accurate detail. it doesn't give the character more depth, it just makes him insufferable. if it doesn't involve emotional information like your sarge raping you, you should cut it. or keep it at 3 words or less.

dicks in shower. haven't we seen enough of them?

 

[frap]

I think my biggest pet peeve (in terms of tropes): sexual assault is okay if the MC does it.

Sleep molesting/sex without prior consent? Sexual assault/rape.
Groping without prior consent? Sexual assault.
Peeping without prior consent? Harassment at the least, possibly sexual assault.
Sex with an inebriated or drugged partner? Sexual assault/rape.

The list could go on. But whenever the MC does it, (with very few exceptions, in fact none I can currently think of) not only do they get away with it, but it improves the character's relationship with the MC.

I'm not saying that peeping on your landlady in the shower should be an instant game over, but when you grope her tits while she sleeps and jerk off on her, do you really think she'll wake up and not know what it is? That should set you on the hardest path to recover from. In fact, any character who would still give you a chance after something like that is probably not a very good judge of character.

 

[woody554]

That should set you on the hardest path to recover from.

I totally agree, and I've always thought a path of redemption would be very interesting. not a preset one where you start as a sinner, but a side path where you fucked up and now you have to redeem yourself.

 

[alt_advancement]

I'm tired of the degrading dialogue spoken to the female you're "doing". Getting sick of watching some beautiful character suck my characters dick and when he's about to cum say "take it bitch" or "swallow it whore". Unless the game is implied that the female likes that talk, just seems out of place. Last thing I would ever say to a woman that's sucking my cock to completion is "take it bitch".

 

[Ataios]

I'm tired of the degrading dialogue spoken to the female you're "doing". Getting sick of watching some beautiful character suck my characters dick and when he's about to cum say "take it bitch" or "swallow it whore". Unless the game is implied that the female likes that talk, just seems out of place. Last thing I would ever say to a woman that's sucking my cock to completion is "take it bitch".

I find this annoying too, when it's done without any apparent reason. For loving couple it makes no sense to start dirty talk out of nowhere just because some devs think dirty talk somehow belongs to porn.

On the other hand I can enjoy it, if it is considered a fetish or the couple either shares some weird love hate relationship or humiliation is part of the story, e.g. an MC wanting to punish his mom for neglecting him in the distant past.

 

[frap]

I'm tired of the degrading dialogue spoken to the female you're "doing". Getting sick of watching some beautiful character suck my characters dick and when he's about to cum say "take it bitch" or "swallow it whore". Unless the game is implied that the female likes that talk, just seems out of place. Last thing I would ever say to a woman that's sucking my cock to completion is "take it bitch".

I find this annoying too, when it's done without any apparent reason. For loving couple it makes no sense to start dirty talk out of nowhere just because some devs think dirty talk somehow belongs to porn.

On the other hand I can enjoy it, if it is considered a fetish or the couple either shares some weird love hate relationship or humiliation is part of the story, e.g. an MC wanting to punish his mom for neglecting him in the distant past.

She: "Talk dirty to me."
Me: "Uhh... mud! Grime! Filth! Pond scum! Fireplace soot!"
She: "I'm going home now."
Me: "Sewer leakage?"
She: "... ugh."

 

[RomanHume]

I do have to jump on the band wagon though about dialogue. the "ahhh Ohhh Cummiiing" gets old pretty fast,

I'm personally of the opinion that if your woman can put more than two words together while fucking, you're not doing it right.

Honestly though, I have a hard time writing sex scenes. Historically, for me, there isn't a lot of talking during sex. There also isn't a lot of internal monologue going through my head. I'm just doing my thing. So trying to create that balance between too much verbiage and too little during a sex scene has been hard to nail down.

 

[TomberryDude]

I'm personally of the opinion that if your woman can put more than two words together while fucking, you're not doing it right.

Honestly though, I have a hard time writing sex scenes. Historically, for me, there isn't a lot of talking during sex. There also isn't a lot of internal monologue going through my head. I'm just doing my thing. So trying to create that balance between too much verbiage and too little during a sex scene has been hard to nail down.

I'm sure talking extensively during sex isn't realistic but I like it in sex scenes. Especially I like knowing what the characters are feeling, physically (huehue) and emotionally during it. It gets me going.

What I don't like is pages and pages of descriptions that say absolutely nothing because we have to make the scene last because 1. we wouldn't want it to end before the player's done wanking and 2. the next sex scene could be hours from now.

I also don't like generic "you're so great, your dick's the biggest, your pussy is heaven" kind of phrases.

 

[RomanHume]

I'm sure talking extensively during sex isn't realistic but I like it in sex scenes. Especially I like knowing what the characters are feeling, physically (huehue) and emotionally during it. It gets me going.

What I don't like is pages and pages of descriptions that say absolutely nothing because we have to make the scene last because 1. we wouldn't want it to end before the player's done wanking and 2. the next sex scene could be hours from now.

I also don't like generic "you're so great, your dick's the biggest, your pussy is heaven" kind of phrases.

I don't usually share shit like this, but I did have this girl once that liked to talk A LOT during sex. She's say shit like, "Tell me whose pussy this is?" "You know this is your pussy." "You can fuck this pussy any time you want."

After the third or fourth time we were together I told her "You gotta stop talking. I cannot focus on my hard-on while you're talking. It distracts the fuck out of me."
It was the last time we had sex, the relationship just didn't survive my honesty.