worthlesspeon

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If you're talking about Harem Hotel's Runey he told him he was okay with people being attracted to underage characters which is the only sane position to have because you know, characters are not real.
I don't think that's a sane position at all. Especially when it comes to the wizards

Also if you think LiL is glorifying grooming (of anyone), you haven't been paying attention.
Sensei's and Maya's relationship seems to be portrayed in a pretty positive light, and there's really no way to say that was anything other than grooming.
 

Bingoogus

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Thank you, I updated it.
That DRM shit was a shoot in the foot, it affected a lot of subscribers too. By the talks here if he does the same or worse the retaliation will sting.
You'll want to update the post linked in the FP with your updated version as that's the one the FP is directing people to.

Edit: ah shit, another freckle...
 

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Thank you, I updated it.
That DRM shit was a shoot in the foot, it affected a lot of subscribers too. By the talks here if he does the same or worse the retaliation will sting.
Hope you don't mind; but I cleaned up your Reset Solutions file, and put each reset in order and added reset #3 along with Titling each reset with event names and happy event names as well. Should probably have the "Puzzle Guide" link point to this file and post until the next reset event update and update of the txt file.

View attachment Lessons_in_Love_Resets.txt

Saw on Discord that the DRM shit is Something that Sel himself is telling all to avoid. So its probably a fuck up since the "legit" people are being affected as well! Not sure if that been said before on here. So much has been said since I was on here last (think @ least 10 pages of post worth)

FYI to anyone who is playing with the Guide MOD, don't know if this is known/said or not with previous versions, I got an error while playing a save file that the MOD was used on. Fixed that by putting in the current MOD into 0.29 and played on then because DRM shit I decided to put in all CPs now the game/save file is corrupted? -ish. I've finished the playthrough but any Event replay beyond the Beachmus event いないいない。。。ばあ!is NOT viewable or seen in the menus. Is this fixable or will be fixable with the 0.29 Guide MOD update? Or is my Save file pooched?
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vehemental

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Saw on Discord that the DRM shit is Something that Sel himself is telling all to avoid. So its probably a fuck up since the "legit" people are being affected as well! Not sure if that been said before on here.
You hate to see it. Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy's subscribers :KEK:

FYI to anyone who is playing with the Guide MOD, don't know if this is known/said or not with previous versions, I got an error trying to play a save file that the MOD was used on. Fixed that by putting in the current MOD into 0.29 and played on then because DRM shit I decided to put in all CPs now the game/save file is corrupted? -ish. I've finished the playthrough but any Event replay beyond the Beachmus event いないいない。。。ばあ!is NOT viewable or seen in the menus. Is this fixable or will be fixable with the 0.29 Guide MOD update? Or is my Save file pooched?
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I used the .29 update patch over top of .28 with the progress mod installed and had no problems. Your save is probably fine but it looks like your screens.rpy file got overwritten at some point - the progress mod doesn't do it so I'm not sure how it happened. Try downloading the .29 update patch and patching it as normal? (not forgetting to disable the DRM of course)
 

vehemental

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I don't think that's a sane position at all. Especially when it comes to the wizards


Sensei's and Maya's relationship seems to be portrayed in a pretty positive light, and there's really no way to say that was anything other than grooming.
To you and anyone else put out by the DRM, Selly has been selling seashells his gross loli shit on gumroad, which doesn't allow porn.

Further, you shall not (and shall not permit any third party) to either (a) take any action or (b) Make Available any Content on or through the Services that: (i) infringes any patent, trademark, trade secret, copyright, right of publicity or other right of any person or entity; (ii) is unlawful, threatening, abusive, harassing, misleading, false, defamatory, libelous, pornographic,


Their report link is broken but you can "Contact Us" at the bottom of the page:



The link is in the game - it'd be a real shame if it broke for the entire month until the next update :unsure:
 

BlackDays

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That DRM shit was a shoot in the foot, it affected a lot of subscribers too. By the talks here if he does the same or worse the retaliation will sting.
The problem is that it is not only not working as intended, but could be even turned against them (Sel and team). Which i guess already happened and might still happen, regarding the subscriber complaints.
I hope they shut the service down for their own sake, unless they have a solution for it.

Thanks to vehemental i saw the code, and if i understood it correctly, lets just say, it's a bit frightening.
 

BlackDays

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I guess the person went with the name alt-f8 here? The developer of it.
I think he already admitted it, that it wasn't a good idea to have it in plain sight and human readable.

Besides that, theres more to the code (thats the scary part), but i don't want to go into detail. Don't want to give people ideas.

Maybe they should have at least put it into a dll or something.
 

KnowNoHope

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I guess the person went with the name alt-f8 here? The developer of it.
I think he already admitted it, that it wasn't a good idea to have it in plain sight and human readable.

Besides that, theres more to the code (thats the scary part), but i don't want to go into detail. Don't want to give people ideas.

Maybe they should have at least put it into a dll or something.
did Sel really put malware or worse in his own damn game?
That sounds like something we should be informed about man, for our own security, wtf else did it do to our computers?
exactly
 
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I guess the person went with the name alt-f8 here? The developer of it.
I think he already admitted it, that it wasn't a good idea to have it in plain sight and human readable.

Besides that, theres more to the code (thats the scary part), but i don't want to go into detail. Don't want to give people ideas.

Maybe they should have at least put it into a dll or something.
If there is something that even possibly dangerous, you should let people know. Better to cause a fake scare then let serious damage be done.
 

BlackDays

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Guys, lol no. As far as i've seen, besides the save file and script.rpy stuff, i didn't see any other malicious code for clients.
That said it's still kinda bad to do that. They should have just tested it first with the "you don't download a car" blah blah text alone and see if it works and observe people, before anything else.

The scary stuff is, that it (the "drm") could be turned against them too.

And i got a feeling someone might just have done that already.
 

KnowNoHope

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Guys, lol no. As far as i've seen, besides the save file and script.rpy stuff, i didn't see any other malicious code for clients.
That said it's still kinda bad to do that. They should have just tested it first with the "you don't download a car" blah blah text alone and see if it works and observe people, before anything else.

The scary stuff is, that it (the "drm") could be turned against them too.

And i got a feeling someone might just have done that already.
oh... scary for them. that sucks
a bit relieved though.
 

Bingoogus

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Guys, lol no. As far as i've seen, besides the save file and script.rpy stuff, i didn't see any other malicious code for clients.
That said it's still kinda bad to do that. They should have just tested it first with the "you don't download a car" blah blah text alone and see if it works and observe people, before anything else.

The scary stuff is, that it (the "drm") could be turned against them too.

And i got a feeling someone might just have done that already.
Ah ok, so more like, the DRM sending requests to their server is open to exploitation and certain forms of attack have an in? That's hilarious.
 

BlackDays

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Ah ok, so more like, the DRM sending requests to their server is open to exploitation and certain forms of attack have an in? That's hilarious.
You're on the right path, yes.
Obviously i don't know how things are handled server side, just checked if his host provider has at least the bare minimum countermeasurements in place, which they have.
And i really don't want to shite on any other devs work, and there's still a chance that im wrong with my assumption, but the whole situation looks kinda dire to me.

Let's just say that if i was a dick, i at least knew an angle to put a lever on.
And if this all is good for at least something, i hope it creates some awareness on Sels side, even if it puts me in a bad position here.
 
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worthlesspeon

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Ah ok, so more like, the DRM sending requests to their server is open to exploitation and certain forms of attack have an in? That's hilarious.
I do think the idea of a porn game phoning home without explicit permission is a bit worrisome. Especially one with content as questionable as this one. I'm curious how much data could be collected if they were inclined to do so. Especially since Sel has threatened legal action in the past. Even if ren'py is fairly sandboxed and can't just go collecting data from the entire host, the logs do still reveal some information about the host. Not to mention he'll have an association with real IP addresses. Even if the content of the game is legal (which is probably not true in all countries), many of us would risk our jobs if it came out we play this game.

Additionally, the more I think about it, the DRM as it is may well violate the EU's GDPR law. Specifically the data processing regulations.
 
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