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We killed them (Sel lost the motivation to make them due to piracy)
- Aug 18, 2021
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- Feb 28, 2018
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Actually, Maya Prime also says that Ami killed/mutilated members of the cast, IIRC. Nice kawaii friends Ayane's got, no?
- Aug 18, 2021
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What the fuck happened to my niece when I woke up... (Ch.4)
Sensei love squad is the leading squad in spreading Sensei'sdisease love.
She has purest friends...Actually, Maya Prime also says that Ami killed/mutilated members of the cast, IIRC. Nice kawaii friends Ayane's got, no?
Sensei love squad is the leading squad in spreading Sensei's
- Oct 1, 2023
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This tierlist is mostly about which are my favourite characters, but some get rated higher based on how much I like/enjoy them in the story(Yumi) or simply by how much I want to plap them(Sana)
I don't have many characters I dislike but I rated lower those that I mostly don't want to plap(Osako) or that I find poorly written/irrelevant to the story or just not interesting (Uta for example I want to plap but she's such a useless boring character that you could delete her and the story would be unaffected) or characters that are straight up affecting the story negatively(I have a case against Maya ever since she dissapeared and this New Maya is also annoying I don't like her attitude)
- Jan 14, 2021
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- Aug 23, 2023
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I mean, I agree, but Maya was never a good person insofar as Akira hasn't been one either. It's more that our Maya has been enduring resets for like a 1000 cycles out of love for him, and that shifts the scales a lot. Being extremely jaded because of that also helps with giving her a pass on lots of stuff she did.
But everything anyone has ever pointed out about Maya before the resets either ranged from being a bad person to outright criminal (Ami points out how she's been lying to her since forever, Noriko hints at some very fucked up shit she may have done to Akira when he ghosted her, and Happy Events seem to suggest that as well). So I'm actually very excited every time new Maya shows up, since it lets me learn a lot more than what our Maya could show.
- Aug 18, 2021
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- Jul 8, 2020
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I guess it's fair to say that Maya lies every time she opens her mouth.Actually, Maya Prime also says that Ami killed/mutilated members of the cast, IIRC. Nice kawaii friends Ayane's got, no?
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- Apr 24, 2021
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I understand the "making competitors look bad part" and "the need to be recognized as a helpful friend", and I agree to all of them. What got my head stuck still is that this is so incompatible to the assumption where Pareidolia being the possible culprit behind Molly's incident; this is the only part I was rejecting hard. Essentially what I want to prove is that this possibility isn't just "low but exists", it's "zero". (A note here is that the culprit here has to be either USER2 or Pareidolia because it was confirmed by Sekai that the sacrifice in Chapter 2 was for a different god that isn't HOPE)
Normally I'd think anyone that plays their cards like this (gaining trust then betraying later) would be someone that wasn't in an advantageous position in the competition or was in need of accessing something very specific and wasn't currently in possession. Thus this someone did some strategic moves on the key factor of the competition to get the upper hand against its opponents. This contradicts with the assumption where Pareidolia being capable of many things Pre Chapter 4 very hard. If Pareidolia was capable of doing good cop (pretend to be a friend)/bad cop (pretend to be USER2) all by itself already, it would already have the upper hand being this capable. What not just keep doing the bad cop part already since it got what it wanted, no? What other things it may want that cannot be done by forcing Sensei but can only be done by lulling Sensei into choosing it?
I'd also agree that Pareidolia isn't something you should trust and I suppose perhaps this is the main reason that prompts you. But that isn't necessarily the same as regarding "absolute everything" it says as lies if one can't find a reason behind a lie. Aka, "Pareidolia once hid its nature from you" is a good reason to distrust it, but it will not be enough to interpret its statement on Molly incident otherwise, and jump to "maybe it was actually Pareidolia who did it". It had a reason to hide its nature, and it should have another now if it keeps lying. Especially now that Pareidolia finally assumed a great idea of control and revealed its true nature to Sensei already, why does it need to keep lying? You've outwitted your opponents, and more importantly your cover is already compromised. Why still falsely pin blame on other USERS about some horrible deeds in the past if that was from you? If there was an elusive reason or goal for it to keep lying, it'd have to be something that cannot be achieved by continuing toying Sensei, and can only be achieved by Sensei actively choosing it; this reason or goal was never articulated anywhere, and I am not about putting my faith in future evidence when there isn't one. Getting its own season doesn't quite count because that's a mean to an end and not an end (getting its own season so that it can do things vs just getting its own season).
And the reason I brought up Sensei's exchange with Pareidolia again is because, Sensei is proven to be an absolute dunce when trying to figure out who did what. I admit I don't know how much Sensei can see what we see and it's hard to prove anything, but that's not my point. The point is we saw an USER2 on the screen during Molly incident, but when Sensei tried to wrap his head around about it, he first thought it was Pareidolia because this is a nostalgic trick he experienced, and then he thought it was HOPE because I assume Sensei was associating this trick with the one that said "take something that doesn't belong to you", and Pareidolia had to "correct" him that it was USER2 that did it. I almost don't need to care whether Sensei could see what we see or not because he just got it all wrong; Pareidolia's supposed plan to pin blame on USER2 never worked as intended because Sensei was too dumb to point at the right scapegoat anyway. This is another reason why I would have to regard Pareidolia's statement on Molly incident as true because, Sensei was too much of a dunce to get properly deceived on the matter. Still lying at this point would be just for deceiving players instead of Sensei. And this isn't an in-universe reason I can accept.
So same thing as my last post (or an extension of it): The wish to have Sensei trust it, choose it, and vilify others highly contradicts with the assumption of Pareidolia being powerful enough and being responsible for Molly incident. Since I believe "Pareidolia trying to gain trust" is true, then "Pareidolia being powerful enough and being responsible for Molly incident" would have to be false.
I'll try to streamline my thought process to compare with yours (apologies in advance if I get any part of it wrong because it'd look up I was putting words in your mouth)
Yours:
Pareidolia claimed Molly incident was caused by USER2 but the entire exchange was very back-and-forth → Pareidolia cannot be trusted due to preconceived solid reasons → This means that statement he gave has a good chance to be false → Molly incident might not be caused by USER2 → Bear in mind that Pareidolia communicated in USER2 fashion twice → This might imply the possibility of Pareidolia impersonating USER2 at some other occasions before Chapter 4 → USER2 never outright admitted that was his doing → Pareidolia could actually be the culprit behind Molly incident and was trying to pin blame on USER2 (or the possibility was there I should say) → All the more reasons to believe as such because Pareidolia was such a lying fuck since the beginning (it is)
Mine:
Pareidolia claimed Molly incident was caused by USER2 but the entire exchange was very back-and-forth → Pareidolia cannot be trusted due to preconceived solid reasons → Its days of gaining Sensei's trust are over, however → I don't find a reason for Pareidolia to still lie to Sensei about it at this point → Molly incident might just be caused by USER2 → USER2 never said it was him but this topic never came up between Sensei and USER2 so at best it's unconfirmed → Pareidolia's statement at least aligns with what we saw on screen during Molly incident → Are there direct evidences that can prove Molly incident was done by someone other than USER2? → Currently no → USER2 was for now the one responsible for Molly incident, and Pareidolia was trying to replicate a "successful" case by pulling the same trick on Karin
My weakness here is that I don't find an in-game reason for Pareidolia to keep lying about something Sensei could never figure out on his own, and I don't find other direct evidence which can prove that USER2 didn't do it. So feel free to give me pointers. And definitely correct me if I got your part wrong.
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Having Akira pick the healthy/least shitty of available options has consistently resulted in missing content, so this really shouldn't be a surprise. I'm not certain whose events you missed, but your options are basically to use URM or go back to whenever you chose not to have sex with and instead choose to do the nasty.
- Jan 14, 2021
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Go back to an earlier save and choose Tsukasa instead of Chinami or use the URM to change the values. It's something like "Chinamichosen = false Tsukasachosen = true" You must change both!
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The first one you have to have seen Chinami naked in the bath in the event "The Gap in the door" and then choose Tsukasa in "Holden Caufield".
No, we didnt. I really doubt that even a tenth of the people who did even bother downloading them here would have payed otherwise. I would guess the interest just wasnt really there for them. I mean i am not interested in what they did offer. Well besides Uta's list that now probably never will be finished.
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I feel like at times what they say matters less than the patterns we can determine they follow. I most certainly will be making a post when I get to Lavender's Green again. But so far, I feel like Wires does not interfere unless absolutely necessary.
The events from Abyss, with Yumi, seems to be the first (possibly) confrontation between Pareidolia and Wires. That is, if it was Wires that led Akira to Yumi in the first place - what seems certain is that Pareidolia faked being Wires to try and get him out of there (then, he offers to get him anywhere out of the old district, and he further confirms his distaste of the old district in recent updates).
During Makoto's beachtrip in winter, Wires brings Akira back from HOPE, Akira comments that he feels wires pulling him back forcibly enough to bleed, and yet never enough to take out his ability to move on his own.
I feel like a lot about determining who was involved in Lavender's Green falls onto pattern recognition to what the gods have done and do before and after that point.
For instance, if Molly was fully raped, someone reset her right after, her affection points were also added and shortly took back. Can Pareidolia even do this or care to? During bluejay, which might have been influenced by a god, Makoto is reset but no one cares about erasing her memory. It's only Wires (probably) that sees the need to fix her fully during the reset.
Also, who profits from the events of Lavender's Green? Would Wires even take (or be able to take) control of someone against their will? this is a god that lost almost all of his followers and was cool with it, to the point of only feeding from scraps that fell onto the ground - and he seems to have been the most powerful in the sense of being able to fully control everyone at the height of his power (yet never did).
These are all things I'll be taking a look as I reach that point again. But hey, maybe one of these questions offers some insight.