Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.41.0] [Selebus]

[Jeraviel]

btw nevermind how Selebus will make the whole "break her to fix her" work out in a way that doesn't feel delusional and wish-fullfiled, I'm more interested about how Io and Sensei will even have a conversation next time they meet.

If you choose to go home, they can eventually have a calm, more level headed talk with each other, with Akira being more mindful with his words so as to not trigger Io again

But if you choose to stay, at the end she tells him she will be unavailable for unforseeable future (basically fuck off I don't want to see you). I don't see how it can eventually lead to them talking with each other unless Io gets soft-reseted like Makoto

 

[notproudofbeinghere]

I may be completely wrong here but I vaguely recall hearing Selly had said being a bad homie was the canon choice, since being a bad homie leads to missed events that would mean the green path isn't necessarily the canon path. So it's possible having sex with Io isn't even canon.

He said it was the "more canon", simply because CH1 Sensei is an asshole, but there really isn't a canon, I think that stablish a canon will be against the point of the game, so yeah-

 

[Riolol]

He said it was the "more canon", simply because CH1 Sensei is an asshole, but there really isn't a canon, I think that stablish a canon will be against the point of the game, so yeah-

There are choices in the game where one option is clearly the canon choice, like dicking Ami for example. I think we will have a definitive canon when it's all over 10+ years from now.

 

[Jeraviel]

I may be completely wrong here but I vaguely recall hearing Selly had said being a bad homie was the canon choice, since being a bad homie leads to missed events that would mean the green path isn't necessarily the canon path. So it's possible having sex with Io isn't even canon.

The fucked up thing about bad homie is that if you were playing the game updates as they came out, there was no way to avoid going down that path because Chika's Schadenfreude event came out in v0.6, and the beach event came in v0.8. If you were a monthly reader of this VN, there is no logical way for you to have avoided bad homie. so in that sort of way, it is canon.

If our choices really don't matter, then the only thing we can control is the timing of events. Intentionally preventing Sensei from visiting Chika until the beach so as to stay as a good homie, talking with Yumi (Abyss) before going on a date with Chika (v0.15), which in turn changes the outcome of the Nodoka/Yumi event in v0.25.

I wouldn't be surprised if we have already watched many events in the "wrong" order that will effect further events beyond our imagination. if bad homie is part of the canon route, then an all green route might just be a meta route, or the player's path

 

[Leoxsama]

The fucked up thing about bad homie is that if you were playing the game updates as they came out, there was no way to avoid going down that path because Chika's Schadenfreude event came out in v0.6, and the beach event came in v0.8. If you were a monthly reader of this VN, there is no logical way for you to have avoided bad homie. so in that sort of way, it is canon.

If our choices really don't matter, then the only thing we can control is the timing of events. Intentionally preventing Sensei from visiting Chika until the beach so as to stay as a good homie, talking with Yumi (Abyss) before going on a date with Chika (v0.15), which in turn changes the outcome of the Nodoka/Yumi event in v0.25.

I wouldn't be surprised if we have already watched many events in the "wrong" order that will effect further events beyond our imagination. if bad homie is part of the canon route, then an all green route might just be a meta route, or the player's path

Your bring up an interesting point about the timing of events considering Himawari's existence and the whole time travel speculation.

 

[Riolol]

The fucked up thing about bad homie is that if you were playing the game updates as they came out, there was no way to avoid going down that path because Chika's Schadenfreude event came out in v0.6, and the beach event came in v0.8. If you were a monthly reader of this VN, there is no logical way for you to have avoided bad homie. so in that sort of way, it is canon.

If our choices really don't matter, then the only thing we can control is the timing of events. Intentionally preventing Sensei from visiting Chika until the beach so as to stay as a good homie, talking with Yumi (Abyss) before going on a date with Chika (v0.15), which in turn changes the outcome of the Nodoka/Yumi event in v0.25.

I wouldn't be surprised if we have already watched many events in the "wrong" order that will effect further events beyond our imagination. if bad homie is part of the canon route, then an all green route might just be a meta route, or the player's path

This sort of thing worries me, we could all be fucking up our games without even knowing it. I really don't want to end up having to start a new game because I triggered events in the wrong order a year beforehand.

 

[barglenarglezous]

Working on a redline path playthrough, trying to miss as many events as possible. Thus, I'm not grinding Lust. I've run into an interesting question.

Some lust events are listed in the Wiki as Not Missable, which implies they're required for progress.

The next Chika event (Detention) in my run is one of those. If I never build up the Lust, it should never trigger. Is that a softlock, or will the story progress regardless?

 

[Jeraviel]

The next Chika event (Detention) in my run is one of those. If I never build up the Lust, it should never trigger. Is that a softlock, or will the story progress regardless?

If I'm correct, you need Detention to unlock the Chika invite, and you need her first invite event (A Trip to the Moon) for the Halloween.

 

[NicolasL4D]

I may be completely wrong here but I vaguely recall hearing Selly had said being a bad homie was the canon choice, since being a bad homie leads to missed events that would mean the green path isn't necessarily the canon path. So it's possible having sex with Io isn't even canon.

I always saw "canon choice" as a misnomer. Nothing is canonical. What's canonical is what YOU pick.

You shouldn't be playing what is canonical, at least in my opinion. You're given a choice, and you should pick the choices you want to go off of. Even if it does annoy Selebus as you see in a later Ami event.

 

[Leoxsama]

One theory I haven't seen floating around is that we're all assuming that the space war is bullshit and used as an excuse to get rid of other men for the sake of the plot, but assuming it IS real, then that theory of Ami and/or Sekai not actually being human takes on a whole other meaning. They might actually be aliens.

 

[Dc345]

One theory I haven't seen floating around is that we're all assuming that the space war is bullshit and used as an excuse to get rid of other men for the sake of the plot, but assuming it IS real, then that theory of Ami and/or Sekai not actually being human takes on a whole other meaning. They might actually be aliens.

Spoiler: Sigh

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[CheleDeCedul]

Sorry if I'm late, and probably someone did it before, but just finished the update and wanted to share the triggers for the events for anyone that might be looking for them:

Yasu1 = Needs Touka camping event. Autoplays Sunday morning.
Yasu2/3 = Autoplays Saturday night. Yasu3 is the main unlocker of the rest of the events.
Maki = Porn shop + lust>5 + Yasu3.
Futaba = Dorms + lust>25 + Yasu3.
Haruka = Cafe + weekend + Yasu3. Rin autoplays after.
Io1/2/3 = Bathhouse + weekday + Yasu3.
Uta1 = Yasu3. Autoplays Saturday morning.
Uta2 = Autoplays Wednesday night.
Noriko1 = Convenience store + love>30 + Yasu3.
Noriko2 = Uta1. Autoplays Sunday afternoon.
Kirin = Noriko1. Autoplays Saturday afternoon.
Wakana1/2 + Imani1/2 = Yasu3 + Uta2 + Noriko2 + Kirin + Io2. Autoplays Saturday morning.

 

[crustlord12]

Has anyone ever pointed out that we have Terminals and Planes? I choose to believe this is all taking place inside a Microsoft Flight Simulator now.
Thank you for coming to my Ted talk

 

[Yarazin]

Ok, since I'm really invested (obsessed), I couldn't wait just one more day and cut out some sleep to finish the update. On break now so figured I would write up some thoughts. I liked it but I'm always confused about many things so interested to read others thoughts. For now ill just say a few things about each girls events.

Spoiler: 0.41

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[NicolasL4D]

I always saw "canon choice" as a misnomer. Nothing is canonical. What's canonical is what YOU pick.

You shouldn't be playing what is canonical, at least in my opinion. You're given a choice, and you should pick the choices you want to go off of. Even if it does annoy Selebus as you see in a later Ami event.

This is ironic because I'm locked out of the Rin event. I don't even know what choice caused this.