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no opinion on the first one, but the other two are fine. "not it" is a common phrase to exclude yourself from something (comes from the game "tag" or "it" where the person who is "it" is the one doing the chasing) and "as ourselves" iirc is refering to the fact that they're experiencing the same thing, but not as a unit but I could be misremembering that scene
This basically. Will fix the first one since that’s a clear mistake but the second one is intentional.
 

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Oh, I completely forgot. Selebus I found something weird in this part.

In sara's first Lust event, when Sensei asks to be called Sana, she says at the end "I'll just think of something else to call you"

I am pretty sure Sensei is supposed to say "I'll just think of something else for you to call me."

Also:
m "I’m annoyed by how true that is. But yes, I require food immediately or I am probably going to kill someone. "
s "Not it. Take Ami instead."

Pretty sure Sensei is supposed to say "Not me."

Lastly, in Bluejay: "Not together, obviously. But as ourselves."
I think Sensei meant "But by ourselves" or "But in our own"
Dunno if "as ourselves" is intentional, but it left me confused, so I will add it.

After 30 edits: My fucking screencap wouldn't upload, so I just typed the dialogue as it was.
Just checked the Sara thing and are you playing an older version by any chance? Because I just went in to edit and that line is said by Sensei in the current game script.
 

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Just checked the Sara thing and are you playing an older version by any chance? Because I just went in to edit and that line is said by Sensei in the current game script.
Yeah, I kept that screenshot for a while. Sorry about that. But you mean the st issue with Sara's event? Because if so, I checked the most recent script, and its there as I said.

Sensei does say "I'll just think of something else to call you" but its Sara who is supposed to call him something else.
 

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Yeah, I kept that screenshot for a while. Sorry about that. But you mean the st issue with Sara's event? Because if so, I checked the most recent script, and its there as I said.

Sensei does say "I'll just think of something else to call you" but its Sara who is supposed to call him something else.
OH. I'm an idiot. Writing 3000 lines of headpats this past week has broken me.
 

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I should probably warn you now, this is, in fact, considered more of a normal game than an H game with H as a secondary component, a side dish if you will. Think of it more like an R rated movie with sex scenes, because R ratings do allow that under certain limitations, in a sea of porn movies.

As for the rest, yeah, there are some scares and yeah player Sensei is the cause of some of the bad things. He is a full blown opportunist and will take any opportunity he can get to be with the girls and get in their pants. The only time he won't is if he is endangering his overall goal of getting them all by taking one or is in danger of losing the girl he is going after at the time by being too pushy.

Let's take Rin for example, she's already extremely unstable and is known not to have feelings for him at this time due to having feelings for another. If player Sensei were to try and get with her immediately instead of waiting until she wasn't on a literal mental cliff edge, she would likely resist, it would likely be forced all the way, and she would likely never be seen again except in a morgue after Futaba finds her.

That said, there are other forces at play beyond anything we as players have the ability to comprehend with what we've been given so far. The Yumi kiss was not him, he was forced to force a kiss on her. That is probably the biggest example in the game so far. Of course, Yumi doesn't know this, so she thinks it was just him and hates him for it.
I don't want to put my real-life issues into it, but I dealt with being in an abusive relationship and those are the major vibes I'm getting from events. Its not something that I want to take part in on the abuser's side, if you get my drift. Not looking to censor or condemn the game, but its not the sort of thing I want to revisit.
 

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I don't want to put my real-life issues into it, but I dealt with being in an abusive relationship and those are the major vibes I'm getting from events. Its not something that I want to take part in on the abuser's side, if you get my drift. Not looking to censor or condemn the game, but its not the sort of thing I want to revisit.
Oh, don't worry. Sensei hasn't done anything to anyone... besides that forced kiss on Yumi which, tbf, something else made him do it
As far as we know. He has had worse thoughts, but not done anything really.

Still, he is a piece of shit mentally/emotionally, with some moments of compassion, which makes us not mark him as one-sidedly evil and hate him.

My point is, you may not enjoy playing as him, but just know that nothing of the sort you fear has happened.
 

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OH. I'm an idiot. Writing 3000 lines of headpats this past week has broken me.
You monster....is Rin getting hers in this first batch batch or is it more of an all at once approach you're taking?

I don't want to put my real-life issues into it, but I dealt with being in an abusive relationship and those are the major vibes I'm getting from events. Its not something that I want to take part in on the abuser's side, if you get my drift. Not looking to censor or condemn the game, but its not the sort of thing I want to revisit.
As DrFree said, the only time he has done anything is when he himself was not in control. I can't say whether anything like that will happen again or if he will ever do something of his own volition, but nothing has been done yet that he has willingly enacted that could be considered abuse.

He is more likely to manipulate the girls into letting him do things with them than forcing them into something because he has a bigger goal of getting with all of them.

Abusing any of them risks him losing the abused girl and possibly the entire group due to their personal issues, like depression, that could turn the situation life threatening for the girl and the fact that the school he teaches at has basically turned into an all girls school, which means gossip spreads FAST.

He could be fine at the beginning of the first school day after forcing a girl and be public enemy number one for every girl in the school by the end of the same day, so he won't do anything drastic. He's an opportunist, but he isn't stupid. If an opportunity presents itself with high risk involved, like forcing Rin as just an example, he won't take it because that could be the only thing she needs to snap and commit suicide. If, however, an opportunity presents itself without risk, like Ayane willingly letting him have her as an example, he'll take it in a heartbeat.
 
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Oh, don't worry. Sensei hasn't done anything to anyone... besides that forced kiss on Yumi which, tbf, something else made him do it
As far as we know. He has had worse thoughts, but not done anything really.

Still, he is a piece of shit mentally/emotionally, with some moments of compassion, which makes us not mark him as one-sidedly evil and hate him.

My point is, you may not enjoy playing as him, but just know that nothing of the sort you fear has happened.
Sensei is incredibly manipulative. He may not outright physically abuse or forcibly rape the girls but it isn't much of a stretch to call his dynamics with some of the girls emotionally abusive.
 
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Sensei is incredibly manipulative. He may not outright physically abuse or forcibly rape the girls but it isn't much of a stretch to call his dynamics with some of the girls emotionally abusive.
got your point, but just, wtf is up with that first quote?
 
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No fucking idea, that was weird

Edit: \/\/ yeah I think I misclicked while reading another thread or something. Anyway the point of my post was just that the guy you were replying to should know that while there isn't much in the way of overt physical abuse, what is in the game could still be tough to get through for someone who's lived it.
 
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No fucking idea, that was weird
That happens when you press``Quote in a post, but don't actually use it to reply. The ``insert quote`` simply posts all the accumulated quotes. The good news is that the guy you quoted may check the game because of you, lol.

I got distracted by it, but I wanted to say, those ``emotionally abusive`` aspects seem kinda inevitable in a game where the MC is trying to hook up with high schoolers. And I assumed the guy asking saw that much coming, since its stated that is 10 twelve fourteen girls, and the one guy in the middle of the banner is clearly an adult.
Being manipulative seems to come with the package, unless its in a game where conveniently the girls are throwing themselves at you, which this game ain't. Each girl has her own circumstances, and the MC is rying to get closer to them tog et under their pants, getting to know them in the process.
 

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That happens when you press``Quote in a post, but don't actually use it to reply. The ``insert quote`` simply posts all the accumulated quotes. The good news is that the guy you quoted may check the game because of you, lol.

I got distracted by it, but I wanted to say, those ``emotionally abusive`` aspects seem kinda inevitable in a game where the MC is trying to hook up with high schoolers. And I assumed the guy asking saw that much coming, since its stated that is 10 twelve fourteen girls, and the one guy in the middle of the banner is clearly an adult.
Being manipulative seems to come with the package, unless its in a game where conveniently the girls are throwing themselves at you, which this game ain't. Each girl has her own circumstances, and the MC is rying to get closer to them tog et under their pants, getting to know them in the process.
Clearly, especially when his goal isn't just to hook up with high school girls, but to hook up with his entire class all at once.

His end goal is very simple, do whatever it takes for them to open their legs willingly so that nobody denies him, whether that's the current target or future targets.

There are only two girls willing to throw themselves at him at this point, almost literally, and the rest need a bit of coaxing or they won't let him in and may even spread news of the attempt to the others and ruin his chances with everyone else.

What he is doing is VERY risky, his entire plan could go up in smoke as soon as even one girl says no in a way that means she will never let him and all it takes for one or every girl to deny him is news that he's just trying to get in their pants.

He might be able to keep Ayane and Kirin if that happens, but that still means he fails his main goal if even one permanently denies him, so I can't see him being physically abusive without it being another Yumi situation.
 

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I personally think the Yumi kiss was required. He had to learn a lesson (lesson in love). And it has effected some of his actions after it. He has mentioned it a couple of times and has held back (I feel) because of that interaction.
 

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I personally think the Yumi kiss was required. He had to learn a lesson (lesson in love). And it has effected some of his actions after it. He has mentioned it a couple of times and has held back (I feel) because of that interaction.
It's something he already wouldn't have done if he had the option because it would be too risky that early on, but he was forced to do it.
 

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a slightly more choice driven story would be lit
I agree as a whole, but that scene with Yumi has to do with the other half of town which there seems to be something bad living somewhere. As choices go they are basically non existent. Don't get me wrong I like the story but it's not so much of a game and I disagree with almost all of the MCs discussions. I think he's a childish asshole.
 
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It's something he already wouldn't have done if he had the option because it would be too risky that early on, but he was forced to do it.
His point is that Sensei has clearly felt urges like that after that, but would stop because of the memory of that one time.
I agree as a whole, but that scene with Yumi has to do with the other half of town which there seems to be something bad living somewhere. As choices go they are basically non existent.
bad homie
Don't get me wrong I like the story but it's not so much of a game and I disagree with almost all of the MCs discussions. I think he's a childish asshole.
Actually, it seems pretty standard as a VN when it comes to choices, being locked out of events, etc.
And yeah, MC is clearly reduced to primal urges, but if we reduce him to only that, we will miss a lot.
 
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It's something he already wouldn't have done if he had the option because it would be too risky that early on, but he was forced to do it.
A key part of an abusive relationship is manipulation. I don't have the stats, but from experience, most of what is, well, abusive isn't the physical element. It tends to involve a lot of manipulation to have the abused party increasingly reliant on the abuser and to frame the relationship in a way where the abused feels they are responsible for their plight. What I am getting here is that the MC may not be fully abusive in the way that he is physically harming them, it comes across more like he is exploiting highschool girls. I guess he's more of an out and out sociopath, but not having played the game I can't really judge it. I figure its good writing, at the least, to get people to respond to it. Badly done MCs who are bad people leads to the dreaded "I don't care about this person or their story" which leads to people dropping it.
 
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