Vizer007

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While I don't agree with the dev's attitude on all matters (though I am still a subscriber), he's made it clear that this isn't meant to be a pleasant story, Sensei is not supposed to be self insert or a character people enjoy 'playing as' and anyone who does identify with him or roots for him should seek help. And it's abundantly clear that there will not be anything resembling a 'happy' ending.
To be fair, I want girls to have a happy ending (even if I kinda hate some of them, they deserve it too), but, sadly, for some of them that implies that sensei was with them. Unless the ending imply that everyone forgets about sensei altogether - there will be no perfectly good ending.
 

barglenarglezous

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To be fair, I want girls to have a happy ending (even if I kinda hate some of them, they deserve it too), but, sadly, for some of them that implies that sensei was with them. Unless the ending imply that everyone forgets about sensei altogether - there will be no perfectly good ending.
Most of the girls are using Akira as a proxy for something missing in their life. Their happy ending would be them either getting it back, or realizing there are healthier ways to live without them.

Like, if the sky's the limit, Ayane would find herself in an alternate timeline where her father never became absurdly wealthy, so he never emotionally abandoned her mom, so her mom never left, and they're actually a healthy, happy family.
 

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I can't help but feel like this game is gonna end with one big 'fuck you'. I get the vibe that the dev actually hates the player.
He is also really passionate about the story. I don't think he'll ruin it just to spite people.
I think the endings are gonna be mostly realistic, some will win and some will lose. Extreme stuff like care package Miku won't happen (she became a teacher like Sensei to molest young boys) but some of them could end up like chapter 1 Sara or Yuki or even Kaori, but some will get better endings too (that is not ending up with Sensei, like Touka becoming a better mom or Molly finding a girlfriend). If something really fucked up happens, it's probably going to happen to people who are most involved with the world.
 

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He is also really passionate about the story. I don't think he'll ruin it just to spite people.
I think the endings are gonna be mostly realistic, some will win and some will lose. Extreme stuff like care package Miku won't happen (she became a teacher like Sensei to molest young boys) but some of them could end up like chapter 1 Sara or Yuki or even Kaori, but some will get better endings too (that is not ending up with Sensei, like Touka becoming a better mom or Molly finding a girlfriend). If something really fucked up happens, it's probably going to happen to people who are most involved with the world.
I wish I could agree with your optimism, but I just don't see it. I do hope for some kind of light at the end of the tunnel, but the overarching plot, setting, and information about wtf is wrong with Sensei are just being so slowly drip-fed that I'm struggling to understand what exactly the main focus of the game is.
 

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To be fair, I want girls to have a happy ending (even if I kinda hate some of them, they deserve it too), but, sadly, for some of them that implies that sensei was with them. Unless the ending imply that everyone forgets about sensei altogether - there will be no perfectly good ending.
Imo, this world is weird enough to give all girls happy ending with Sensei without sharing. Yes, it would be a paradox, but when nothing is real anything is possible.
 

butterfly boy

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I wish I could agree with your optimism, but I just don't see it. I do hope for some kind of light at the end of the tunnel, but the overarching plot, setting, and information about wtf is wrong with Sensei are just being so slowly drip-fed that I'm struggling to understand what exactly the main focus of the game is.
I think the main focus is the characters. The story is less about what happens, and more about how characters react to it, how it changes them and how we perceive them. Take Sara's bar for example, some of us expected the story to be an adventure where we fight to make her bar do better, but it just became better out of nowhere. That is because Sara's bar is just a plot device to make us learn more about Sara as a person. Or the Yumi Revitalization Project, maybe Yumi won't get a job by the end of the game, but the important part is we get to learn more about why Yumi is the way she is, and how she will grow as a person.
That is why I'm positive about this game. Even if the ending gets really dark, I know the journey with these characters will be worth it.
 

butterfly boy

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Imo, this world is weird enough to give all girls happy ending with Sensei without sharing. Yes, it would be a paradox, but when nothing is real anything is possible.
Please no. The relationship that Sensei has with these girls is incredibly toxic and unless he seriously improves himself I wouldn't consider an ending with Sensei "happy".
 

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Most of the girls are using Akira as a proxy for something missing in their life. Their happy ending would be them either getting it back, or realizing there are healthier ways to live without them.

Like, if the sky's the limit, Ayane would find herself in an alternate timeline where her father never became absurdly wealthy, so he never emotionally abandoned her mom, so her mom never left, and they're actually a healthy, happy family.
I think most of the girls could conceivably grow enough to move on from their problems without needing Sensei as a crutch. The only ones who couldn't are Ami and Maya. Ami would snap like a twig if she lost one more family member, and her Real and Psycho selves are so hard to separate that I'm not sure how capable of growth she is. Maya has been dedicated to Akira for so long, and to the real Akira and not some idealized projection, that I'm not sure what she could even be if he wasn't in her life.
 

JelF547

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Please no. The relationship that Sensei has with these girls is incredibly toxic and unless he seriously improves himself I wouldn't consider an ending with Sensei "happy".
I would be disapointed if he wouldn't seriously imporve himself untilthe game ends. His constant improvement is one of the reasons I really like this game.

But I don't think serious improvement would be enough. It's not OK to date a guy twice your age even if he is perfect. Initialy I had an assumption that girls are older then their biological age because not all their experience is wiped by reset, but it is likely wrong and Kumon-me somehow keeps childish even Maya, who lived more time than she can remember.
 

DeSkel15

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I would be disapointed if he wouldn't seriously imporve himself untilthe game ends. His constant improvement is one of the reasons I really like this game.

But I don't think serious improvement would be enough. It's not OK to date a guy twice your age even if he is perfect. Initialy I had an assumption that girls are older then their biological age because not all their experience is wiped by reset, but it is likely wrong and Kumon-me somehow keeps childish even Maya, who lived more time than she can remember.
Honestly, I think the main reason that the girls don't really age, and why Maya doesn't really age, is because of Sensei.

Sensei letting his true self shine:
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I doubt Sensei has complete control over this world, but I'd be surprised if whatever's actually in control hasn't taken his preferences into account. The whole infinite first year of highschool thing seems awfully specific.

Then again, I kind of also think everyone's already dead and the reason they don't age is because they are literally puppeteered corpses meant to keep the illusion "alive".
 

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That monster seems to be "The old one" that Sensei summoned when we invited Noriko over:
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I think that and the Io event just cut off because that's all that we were meant to see. The old one may have caused Sensei to black out though.
 
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JelF547

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I think that and the Io event just cut off because that's all that we were meant to see.
I'll join you, it was pretty straightforward. Yumi is growing as a character and we have been assured that Io was rather traumatized then born broken. Also Yuki now has more visitors, hooray.

Actualy we had discussion on Io around the patch, so you can scroll thread to see it
 

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The "one true ending" after the purity routes is 100% confirmed won't be a Harem Ending. So I tend to believe that if Akira won't have all the girls he won't have any. Don't think Sel is going to play favourites here and say Sensei's "true love" was Maya/Niki or whoever. What I'm kind of expecting is a bittersweet ending, the cycle ends and the girls are ready to move on with their lives and leave their traumas behind. And a redeemed (kind of) Sensei being gone for good, since some girls don't seem able to carry on with their own lives as long as he is still there in any shape or form. Maybe a couple of them (Maya, Ami) won't still be able to and will try to create a new "dream world" and that's how it ends. I'd rather have them to not do that and learn to live without him but that probably won't be the case.

Anyway, the existence of multiple universes is canon on this game, so if you don't like the "true ending" whatever it is, you can still pick the ending of your favorite girl and take it as your own ending and that will be okay I guess.
 

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I'll join you, it was pretty straightforward. Yumi is growing as a character and we have been assured that Io was rather traumatized then born broken. Also Yuki now has more visitors, hooray.

Actualy we had discussion on Io around the patch, so you can scroll thread to see it
You know, I just realized that Yuki is a recovering drug addict, and Io is becoming like a drug dealer. Kind of ironic that they seem to be quite close.

Also, yeah I've checked out the Io discussion. I just didn't really have much to add at the time.

In retrospect though: Uta expecting Io to not show up at the 'Midnight mom mosh' event, with Io being notably uncomfortable by the mother-ish stuff, and now with the recent thing with Yumi's neglectful mom being laughable to Io, I do think it's safe to say Io's mother played a part in why Io is the way she is. It's likely why she lives with her aunt.

Not to downplay what Io went through, but I do think her having Mommy issues is highly likely.
 

DeSkel15

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The "one true ending" after the purity routes is 100% confirmed won't be a Harem Ending. So I tend to believe that if Akira won't have all the girls he won't have any. Don't think Sel is going to play favourites here and say Sensei's "true love" was Maya/Niki or whoever. What I'm kind of expecting is a bittersweet ending, the cycle ends and the girls are ready to move on with their lives and leave their traumas behind. And a redeemed (kind of) Sensei being gone for good, since some girls don't seem able to carry on with their own lives as long as he is still there in any shape or form. Maybe a couple of them (Maya, Ami) won't still be able to and will try to create a new "dream world" and that's how it ends. I'd rather have them to not do that and learn to live without him but that probably won't be the case.

Anyway, the existence of multiple universes is canon on this game, so if you don't like the "true ending" whatever it is, you can still pick the ending of your favorite girl and take it as your own ending and that will be okay I guess.
You're definitely more optimistic than I am. I don't think anyone is getting an actual happy ending, besides maybe Nao (not Nao-chan) and those above it. I don't think the cycle will be broken. Sensei will get "close" then he'll be bluntly reminded that he's only playing the part that he was scripted to play, before being reset so that he can eternally struggle in vain. All while Nao watches, entertained, as the ants go around in circles. Any happy endings merely being "what ifs" meant to spice things up before being reset again.

Nao spoiled the ending:
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Edit: Lmao, I might be a Nihilist:
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You know, I just realized that Yuki is a recovering drug addict, and Io is becoming like a drug dealer. Kind of ironic that they seem to be quite close.

Also, yeah I've checked out the Io discussion. I just didn't really have much to add at the time.

In retrospect though: Uta expecting Io to not show up at the 'Midnight mom mosh' event, with Io being notably uncomfortable by the mother-ish stuff, and now with the recent thing with Yumi's neglectful mom being laughable to Io, I do think it's safe to say Io's mother played a part in why Io is the way she is. It's likely why she lives with her aunt.

Not to downplay what Io went through, but I do think her having Mommy issues is highly likely.
Im guessing Io went through the same situation with Akira and sekai. It would explain why Io being so repulsive to doing any sexual act.
 

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Im guessing Io went through the same situation with Akira and sekai. It would explain why Io being so repulsive to doing any sexual act.
Yeah, and both seem to think they are similar to eachother. In this case, it might have been a mother instead of a sister in law that fucked the kid up, though. Io just seems to have been "saved" in the long run, while Sensei became addicted.
 

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Hey does anyone have a save file that i can use i was halfway in chapter 2 but my save files got corrupt when i updated in to the new version.
 
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