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This is actually a good point. Maybe toys is not the right therm, but i think you are right. I mean she was probably the only person who is 100% aware of what he is doing and thinking. And while she did "judge" him, and in the end nothing he did or didnt do, did actually change anything in their relationship.

No matter how often she called him disgusting. Nothing did ever change for the worse. She was the only stable constant in this world for him. No matter what he would do, she wouldnt leave him and she wouldnt actually judge him for him. She knew who he was.

I think a problem for people who dont feel the same way about this is, that if you werent able to get it before, now all they get is tell, because there now nothing more to show. At least not directly and i am actually a bit disapointed he really did spend the night with eraser maya.
Hah, made almost the exact same statement a few pages ago.
Without Maya, it just seems pointless from the point of view of Sensei, similarly to how Makoto has been thinking of life ever since getting to know about the reset. The mental breakdown seemed like a good reflection of it.

It really made me lose interest in the game, though. The other students are nice side characters that provide some distraction, but none of them really matter to Sensei and the story seems even more random and up to the whims of the gods now. Might as well get rid of the protagonist completely at this point since he's been reduced to just another side character.
 
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"Sorry I'm late, everybody, I was getting double-teamed by my boss and my teacher"
"Geez, Molly, you're trying to hard to convince us you're not a virgin."
Her attempt at the tentacle vs Makoto already sold her as a virgin to Nodoka, which means it was sold to everyone with an occasional autograph.

for what it's worth it may be the difference between WoW and FF14 players at this point.
 

Qrash

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Hah, made almost the exact same statement a few pages ago.
Without Maya, it just seems pointless from the point of view of Sensei, similarly to how Makoto has been thinking of life ever since getting to know about the reset. The mental breakdown seemed like a good reflection of it.

It really made me lose interest in the game, though. The other students are nice side characters that provide some distraction, but none of them really matter to Sensei and the story seems even more random and up to the whims of the gods now. Might as well get rid of the protagonist completely at this point since he's been reduced to just another side character.
That's why I personally wish, and this may be an unpopular statement, that this game didn't really go for the whole "supernatural/meta-existential" angle to begin with. I feel like it doesn't need it. These are good characters, and there's enough going on with them in their mundane, human lives that I feel like the other elements kind of get in the way of that. Especially since that with the whole "supernatural" side of the narrative, the characters have no agency whatsoever. There is nothing they can do about any of the things that are happening to them or around them.

The most excited I was for the more fantastical elements of the plot were around when Yumi and Tsuneyo were breaking out of the matrix and it seemed like they, along with Sensei, Maya, and Ayane were actually could do something to resist the world.
 
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Xiondingens

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Hah, made almost the exact same statement a few pages ago.
Must have missed that post then.
It really made me lose interest in the game, though. The other students are nice side characters that provide some distraction, but none of them really matter to Sensei and the story seems even more random and up to the whims of the gods now. Might as well get rid of the protagonist completely at this point since he's been reduced to just another side character.
Hm, i mean i think maya is an important part. But wouldnt agree with you here. Because he is the hero, and now he has to overcome this. Lets be honest, there werent that many time where he actually had to overcome something, instead of just getting what he wants on a silver plate at the end.

Could actually help him to finally become a character, i mean one who doesnt just either fucking or whining around. I mean, if maya was all that kept you interested in the game. Well, that sucks for you.


That's why I personally wish, and this may be an unpopular statement, that this game didn't really go for the whole "supernatural/meta-existential" angle to begin with. I feel like it doesn't need it. These are good characters, and there's enough going on with them in their mundane, human lives that I feel like the other elements kind of get in the way of that. Especially since that with the whole "supernatural" side of the narrative, the characters have no agency whatsoever. There is nothing they can do about any of the things that are happening to them or around them.

The most excited I was for the more fantastical elements of the plot were around when Yumi and Tsuneyo were breaking out of the matrix and it seemed like they, along with Sensei, Maya, and Ayane were actually could do something to resist the world.
Well, i think we basically have two stories going on. One on the ground level with the girls, that are not affected by all the supernatural stuff. Or at least most of the time are not affected. And then we have on another level the supernatural stuff, that is most of the time just barely affected by anything of the groundlevel.

And i would think that one is actually been able to enjoy the groundlevel stories, while ignoring/skipping most of the supernatural stuff is quite possible.
 

DeSkel15

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Continuing with the box discussion from the other day, this is the last maya event from chapter 2.

After their date watching the fireworks, Maya tells Akira she has a present for him. She then corrects herself, saying it's not a present, but that by honoring the tradition it would help her deal with their changing relationship, so she needs his help carrying it. Akira asks if he can look at what's inside this time, and she says that if he can open it, he can take a look at it. But she says she doesn't have it with her, and that they'll have to go get it in the dorms... BUT as she says this, Maya's gone and the box is already there with him.

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Scene change, he's with the box talking to Ami

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Another scene change, he's with the box talking to Sekai

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Through the entire thing, he's talking to Maya and making his way to her bedroom to get the box.

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No idea who that is. Scene change, he's with Ayane and Maya and the box.

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Scene change he's taking the photo of the girls before everything and with the box.

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Scene change, he's at the dorms and holding the box.

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I'd like to hear some thoughts on this, and I'm also missing a few details. First, what is the ritual exactly? Maya keeps the box in her bedroom at the dorms and then as the reset is about to happen she takes the box where exactly?

Second, what is the purpose of this? It doesn't seem to have any effect on the reset, so maybe what's inside the box is kept intact through resets? Cause if that's the case, it would make sense for it to be something that is modified by her during the resets, otherwise you wouldn't have to save it, it would remain regardless as something that existed before the resets I think. But then it would contradict it being Akira's memories, since it would fit more being her notes on the resets or something.

And third, maybe the box is what's buried underneath his feet? Are his notebooks of poems inside? Yeah that's my limit for now I think...
There's actually multiple boxes:
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And Maya usually seemed to barricade certain hallways with them:
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Sensei does tend to help Maya carry at least one box between every reset, but the rest she might do on her own.

Why Maya did this isn't clear, but in theory:

These boxes may be there to protect, and guide whoever to the roof. The one reset she was unprepared for:
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(Pareidolia probably messed with her head like it's probably been doing to everyone since Sensei connected to it) This thing showed up on the roof during that reset:
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So, since Maya was caught off guard, she may have not moved all of the boxes to where they needed to be, leaving the roof vulnerable to supernatural stuff that normally wouldn't get past the boxes. (Possibly even why Sensei blacked out and killed her when he's usually came to his senses on the roof)

Considering that New Maya probably has no idea what the boxes or resets even are, the next time they go to the roof, they may have no protection at all.

As for what's in the boxes, whatever is in control of things doesn't seem to want anyone to know (besides maybe Maya, if she actually knew what was in them). Ayane saw what was in them but at some point it was casually erased from her mind that they even exist:
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There's actually multiple boxes:
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And Maya usually seemed to barricade certain hallways with them:
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Sensei does tend to help Maya carry at least one box between every reset, but the rest she might do on her own.

Why Maya did this isn't clear, but in theory:

These boxes may be there to protect, and guide whoever to the roof. The one reset she was unprepared for:
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(Pareidolia probably messed with her head like it's probably been doing to everyone since Sensei connected to it) This thing showed up on the roof during that reset:
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So, since Maya was caught off guard, she may have not moved all of the boxes to where they needed to be, leaving the roof vulnerable to supernatural stuff that normally wouldn't get past the boxes. (Possibly even why Sensei blacked out and killed her when he's usually came to his senses on the roof)

Considering that New Maya probably has no idea what the boxes or resets even are, the next time they go to the roof, they may have no protection at all.

As for what's in the boxes, the world itself doesn't seem to want anyone to know (besides maybe Maya, if she actually knew what was in them). Ayane saw what was in them but at some point it was casually erased from her mind that they even exist:
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This is the best take on the boxes I have seen.
 

jexyheir

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Yeah, you see all, I have no problem with Maya being head over heels for him and living through tons of shit for him. That is shown, good and all, etc.
Problem is that from he's side there's nothing really. While we see that he is trying so hard to return/restore/remake parts of what Sekai was for him, he does shit all about/with Maya. The most is his words about how he loved her, which are useless, as dude lies to himself more than breathes on top of not remembering shit. And then he's breaking into coma cause subconscious reasons in the past, imagine them yourself for now. Yeah, not buying it.


The most I could probably buy is that he broke down cause Maya was his project of now lost Sekais' teaching about how to break wizards into eternal love and the result got lost so he will get an F.
 

Xiondingens

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While we see that he is trying so hard to return/restore/remake parts of what Sekai was for him,
We do? When? I have read this by now multiple times, about that he wants Sekai back and all that. Just nothing in the game itself that would even hind at it.
 

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Howdy. New to the game. Honestly just downloaded it. But I have no idea how to get the DRM Patch. I click on it and it just takes me to a new screen full of random stuff I do not understand. So I am guessing its coding.


I am asking, what do I do? Thanks.
 

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Howdy. New to the game. Honestly just downloaded it. But I have no idea how to get the DRM Patch. I click on it and it just takes me to a new screen full of random stuff I do not understand. So I am guessing its coding.


I am asking, what do I do? Thanks.
Have you downloaded and added the care package extras? If not you don't need to worry about the DRM patch. Otherwise the DRM fix involves replacing the gui.rpy file for the 'cleaned' one that you should get directed to from the OP.
 
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jexyheir

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We do? When? I have read this by now multiple times, about that he wants Sekai back and all that. Just nothing in the game itself that would even hind at it.
Isn't pretty much everything he does is done in a way Sekai would praise? Isn't he right now trying to fill parental part of hole with Touka? Isn't he trying to fill other holes in predatory ways learned from her, cause sex is good? Isn't his whole relationship with Maya even started is because he's trying to imitate or get approval or something? Isn't he thinking trying same shit with another wizard? Isn't he putting others on similar way?
And he did/does all of that willingly to my knowledge. It would even make sense if he only took Ami cause she cared about her.

But I don't really know. It's not like I'm stating facts here, just what I personally got out of how story is told.
 

Xiondingens

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Isn't pretty much everything he does is done in a way Sekai would praise? Isn't he right now trying to fill parental part of hole with Touka? Isn't he trying to fill other holes in predatory ways learned from her, cause sex is good? Isn't his whole relationship with Maya even started is because he's trying to imitate or get approval or something? Isn't he thinking trying same shit with another wizard? Isn't he putting others on similar way?
And he did/does all of that willingly to my knowledge. It would even make sense if he only took Ami cause she cared about her.

But I don't really know. It's not like I'm stating facts here, just what I personally got out of how story is told.
That is all? I am a bit disapointed. Because tbh, i would just see that as the implementation of victims of abuse, often abuse themself later in life concept. Nothing about that tells me anything about him wanting Sekai back i any way, shape or form. I mean nothing you said after that is technically wrong, i just wouldnt connect it so directly to Sekai, even tho she is surely to blame for this character flaw of his at the very least partial.

And if she would really approve of what he does? Tbh, i dont think we actually know enough about Sekei to know that. I am not even convinced the Sekai we see is really her and not just some supernatural thing that wears her appearance. So all we really have are those few flashbacks with her. And even the accuracy of those is questionable imo.

That is also the reason why i am not so sure if she really cared about Ami. Maybe she did, maybe she didnt. So far i really dont believe we have enough information to tell for sure.
 

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There's actually multiple boxes:
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And Maya usually seemed to barricade certain hallways with them:
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Sensei does tend to help Maya carry at least one box between every reset, but the rest she might do on her own.

Why Maya did this isn't clear, but in theory:

These boxes may be there to protect, and guide whoever to the roof. The one reset she was unprepared for:
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(Pareidolia probably messed with her head like it's probably been doing to everyone since Sensei connected to it) This thing showed up on the roof during that reset:
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So, since Maya was caught off guard, she may have not moved all of the boxes to where they needed to be, leaving the roof vulnerable to supernatural stuff that normally wouldn't get past the boxes. (Possibly even why Sensei blacked out and killed her when he's usually came to his senses on the roof)

Considering that New Maya probably has no idea what the boxes or resets even are, the next time they go to the roof, they may have no protection at all.

As for what's in the boxes, whatever is in control of things doesn't seem to want anyone to know (besides maybe Maya, if she actually knew what was in them). Ayane saw what was in them but at some point it was casually erased from her mind that they even exist:
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This helps. One other question though, you mention the appearance of BIG BOI, and as far as we know it's a good thing he showed up cause otherwise the girls wouldn't have been able to reset. Which apparently was super easy for him and he didn't have to ask for anyone's help.

BUT with Maya, she probably had to pray for her god that left the shrine everytime (?) - which god do you think is that? I mean, is the reset even something they should have to ask for? Is it not something the next god in the cycle wants anyway?
 
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