Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.42.0] [Selebus]

[Moonflare]

Refresh my memory, which scenes have we seen that version of her in?

During the first Sana fingering (but she leaves before it happens), and during the Niki "I can be Ami's mom" conversation, from which she also leaves (presumably to call Ami) - it could also have been her at the bathhouse, as this Sekai seems to be more chill and just wants to generally hang around Akira instead of commanding him to do stuff. Maybe it was her waiting for him at home after Paranoid from Karin (but we never see her).

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If it is the same Sekai as the aggressive one, Io's fucked. But I don't think it is because she speaks to Akira in a different manner than the "Teacher/Regular Clothes Sekai".

And also, the scene that DeSkel quoted with regular Sekai hiding in the trees has the "Maya illusion" asking him if he would like it to stop, and she stops it promptly as he asks. So there are multiple forces at play there.

This environment and Io's eyes are reminding me of the time when she made fun of Yumi's past, indirectly saying that her past was much worse, so for me there is a chance that she told Akira about her past, (In my opinion , 30% chance of that being the case, 5% of Akira telling his past [...]

That was my first assumption and what I'm hoping for.

 

[somepersonoutofnowhere]

Anyone mentioned how Akira looks like he's getting/got pegged by Sekai in Pedro4545454 's PFP? Because I sort of thought that when I saw it.

 

[DeSkel15]

Refresh my memory, which scenes have we seen that version of her in?

Maybe all the bad/"Happy" ones, tbh.

She started wearing her "ghost" costume in Chapter 3's 'Girls Just Want to Have Fun' Main Event, though:

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Then basically told him to rape:

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and to submit, to accept he's basically been raping this whole time, to show mommy his boner, etc.

She recently showed up again in Niki's 'The Clod and the Pebble' Chapter 4 Event, and maybe in Karin's 'Paranoid' Event if she was the Sekai inviting Sensei to bed at the end.

Edit: It may also be the Sekai that appeared in Uta's 'Enjo Kousai', and Io's 'Tennis Ball' before Halloween.

She seems to tend to refer to herself as dead or a ghost, and usually wants him to fuck something:

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[BlackDays]

Swinging, as the game progresses couples and other people start banging in groups in the baths/showers, behind the stage, at each others homes. An awful lot of it is focused on all the different women wanting the MC's long schlong big big dong, but there's tag teaming and mmff stuff, towards the end the MC is asked to knock up like half the cast including his relatives.

Again, i just want to be really clear, you can turn it all off, the game is built to work with or without it. I just prefer the authentic experience, as the author intended it, and i think it's done really bloody well even if it's not really my kink.

Ok so other guys involved. Not my thing though, even if it is authentic.
Since the option to turn it off is there, maybe i'll give it a try one day.

 

[Pedro4545454]

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Theorizing a little more, I think Io told her past by making Akira have Sekai's flashback and this scene we are seeing is the moment he enters the flashback or the moment he leaves, and as Io is used to seeing people in a state of delirium so much so that she wasn't even scared when she saw Akira in 0.36 all mentally broken, so I think she realized that Akira had gone into delirium or had just come out of one, that's why her look is neutral, like her She's not scared, but she's not happy either.

 

[Moonflare]

Maybe all the bad/"Happy" ones, tbh.

She started wearing her "ghost" costume in Chapter 3's 'Girls Just Want to Have Fun' Main Event, though:

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Then basically told him to rape:

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and to submit, to accept he's basically been raping this whole time, to show mommy his boner, etc.

She recently showed up again in Niki's 'The Clod and the Pebble' Chapter 4 Event, and maybe in Karin's 'Paranoid' Event if she was the Sekai inviting Sensei to bed at the end.

This reminded me of something I wanted to ask, wasn't it Yasu that recently received a message about "not trusting her"? And I suppose the her would be Sekai? (I think it was when she was talking to the emissary of pegasus, or whatever its name was).

Could also be Ami, there aren't many hers that are relevant in supernatural terms.

 

[DeSkel15]

This reminded me of something I wanted to ask, wasn't it Yasu that recently received a message about "not trusting her"? And I suppose the her would be Sekai? (I think it was when she was talking to the emissary of pegasus, or whatever its name was).

Could also be Ami, there aren't many hers that are relevant in supernatural terms.

Yasu did mention "she's lying":

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In the 'Priestess of Fallen Snow' Chapter 4 Main Event.

The ghost and moon part makes me think it's related to Sekai, but I suppose could be Ami, Maya, or the Shapeshifter/Himawari, etc.

 

[Moonflare]

Yasu did mention "she's lying":

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In the 'Priestess of Fallen Snow' Chapter 4 Main Event.

The ghost and moon part makes me think it's related to Sekai, but I suppose could be Ami, Maya, or the Shapeshifter/Himawari, etc.

Well, yes, but what has Sekai been lying about even? Giving in? Cause if that's the case, all supernatural beings with the exception of Wires have been saying the same thing.

If she was lying about being Sekai that would have been wild. NAO did say that an absolute power would emerge and that she was curious as to how Akira would perceive it.

Oh, another random question - in where the trees live we see a flashback of two young girls (which I had assumed to be young Yumi and older Kaori) - but if that's the case Yumi's eyes are wrong. So who are them?

The whole thing is populated by Sekai's butterflies and SeKaori answers that something's awakening.

 

[DeSkel15]

Well, yes, but what has Sekai been lying about even? Giving in? Cause if that's the case, all supernatural beings with the exception of Wires have been saying the same thing.

If she was lying about being Sekai that would have been wild. NAO did say that an absolute power would emerge and that she was curious as to how Akira would perceive it.

Oh, another random question - in where the trees live we see a flashback of two young girls (which I had assumed to be young Yumi and older Kaori) - but if that's the case Yumi's eyes are wrong. So who are them?

The whole thing is populated by Sekai's butterflies and SeKaori answers that something's awakening.

Molly, maybe? But any of the Sekais actually being Sekai seems doubtful. The White Dress Sekai has a messed up face as well:

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Then again, anyone being who they claim to be is questionable with the possibility of shapeshifters.

Those two are both probably Kaori. Just a Wizard and Teen Version:

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I somewhat wonder if Kaori may have knew Sekai or have been one of her students.

8 years prior, Kaori would have been around 15, and possibly going to the same school all the girls are.

 

[Fire Lord Zuko]

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[Nadekai]

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... my dream come true ...

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[Angiboat]

Since we're on recommendations, I would also plug my fav rpgm game

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Reminder to not get your copy from F95 as to my recollection it's a shit ass MTL and they fucked the fonts up unless they miraculously fixed it not long ago.

 

[Moonflare]

Sensei - “THAT ISN’T TRUE! STOP MAKING ME DO THINGS TO PEOPLE WHO DON’T DESERVE THEM!”
Pareidolia- “Fine, fine. Jeez.”
- “I’ll just have to find someone who does."

That part about him finding someone that does had always flew under my radar and I'm now scared.

Although, granted, if there is someone in this cast that Io would probably respect in terms of trauma that someone is Akira. I don't believe in trauma olympics, but if we were to compare the damage their respective traumas did to the world as a whole, or rather, what their inability to deal with their traumas did, Akira wins by such a landslide it's not even comparable.

Spoiler: Io and Akira comparison

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That might be all heavy wishful thinking, but I don't see another angle through which she gets assaulted and survives this mentally other than her accepting it beforehand in regards to his mind being broken/having an episode. And for all Io's attitude makes me don't really care about her, I don't want to see her broken or assaulted either.

Edit: It would be funny if all of our predictions turn wrong and the scene is super uplifting with Io going "damn, you've been through some heavy shit too, huh? Maybe we can heal and face our fears together - who even cares about brattydolia".

 

[Leoxsama]

One question, is the Eternum game really good or is it just an overrated game? As I'm going to have to wait another 25 days for LIL, I feel like killing time with something, so I wanted to know if you recommend the game or not and if not, which games you recommend.

I don't see any recs for My Maid Dreams of Electric Sheep which is a relatively new VN but my god the animations are some of the best i've seen from Koikatu. A bit grindy but that story, atmosphere and animations just make it feel worth imo.

 

[Angiboat]

I don't see any recs for My Maid Dreams of Electric Sheep which is a relatively new VN but my god the animations are some of the best i've seen from Koikatu. A bit grindy but that story, atmosphere and animations just make it feel worth imo.

Agreed for Electric Sheep, the animations made me feel like a caveman discovering fire when I compared it to most of the stuff I tried in the same style.

 

[Slub]

I didn't like it. It's been some time, and from my list I gave it a 2/10 playing it at 0.6 - however I don't remember much of it. I think I sort of remember the story being kind of interesting and the girls being hot, but something about the game design just made it too much for me. I tried to power-through with a guide, but just ended up giving up since I wasn't that hooked in the story either.

I'll add some recommendations since I've been putting it off until now.

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If you give in and start replaying LiL instead though, please remember to pay attention to the colors that appear (especially green, red, blue and white) and the moons since it's still unclear if that was a thing from the start (or since when it was a thing).

What’s the hype of Last Sovereign about? I quit by the time I recruited the sister because the game is just too unforgiving and requires the players to follow a guide to the dot. Started over 3 times by then, once because I didn’t kill the early enemies which caused my characters to be too weak, second time to strip the early characters off their equipment since the enemies were still way too strong and money making opportunities too limited to waste it on something that turns out to be the ‘wrong’ thing, third time because I recruited the sister after defeating enemies in the cave and house. It’s mandatory to know about every single detail in advance and follow a predetermined order you won’t know about until you failed and ought to repeat the last 45 minutes.

I thought these pseudo sandbox games like LiL are stupid for expecting players to repeat scenes hundreds of times in pursuit of the new events, but that game really took the cake

 

[Bingoogus]

What’s the hype of Last Sovereign about? I quit by the time I recruited the sister because the game is just too unforgiving and requires the players to follow a guide to the dot. Started over 3 times by then, once because I didn’t kill the early enemies which caused my characters to be too weak, second time to strip the early characters off their equipment since the enemies were still way too strong and money making opportunities too limited to waste it on something that turns out to be the ‘wrong’ thing, third time because I recruited the sister after defeating enemies in the cave and house. It’s mandatory to know about every single detail in advance and follow a predetermined order you won’t know about until you failed and ought to repeat the last 45 minutes.

I thought these pseudo sandbox games like LiL are stupid for expecting players to repeat scenes hundreds of times in pursuit of the new events, but that game really took the cake

It is perhaps Sierra's only real shortcoming as a dev imo, her games are strict, complicated and filled with traps to trip up cheating, but if you can force your way past that or carefully work your way around the traps, the stories are really quite solid. I found the most straightforward way to cheat around 99% of the combat bullshit was to use the rpgmakersaveedit.exe to add bonus stats to any combat characters, it certainly took care of the worst of the difficulty, the rest was just carefully reading the guide to allocate the right points during the major events. It's not for everyone though, you've gotta put the work in to get to the story unfortunately.

 

[Moonflare]

What’s the hype of Last Sovereign about? I quit by the time I recruited the sister because the game is just too unforgiving and requires the players to follow a guide to the dot. Started over 3 times by then, once because I didn’t kill the early enemies which caused my characters to be too weak, second time to strip the early characters off their equipment since the enemies were still way too strong and money making opportunities too limited to waste it on something that turns out to be the ‘wrong’ thing, third time because I recruited the sister after defeating enemies in the cave and house. It’s mandatory to know about every single detail in advance and follow a predetermined order you won’t know about until you failed and ought to repeat the last 45 minutes.

I thought these pseudo sandbox games like LiL are stupid for expecting players to repeat scenes hundreds of times in pursuit of the new events, but that game really took the cake

The hype, as you asked, is twofold imo: The gameworld and story heavily changes based on your decisions (which are by themselves very complex and far-reaching as months and years go by), and the story itself which is very interesting.

As for mechanics, I'm sure that many people enjoy it, but for me personally, as someone that sucks in most games of this genre, I simply cheat my characters/party to have maximum health, money and pron (investment money) - as I play for the story and consider rpgm mechanics themselves to be an obstacle to it. What you said about the guide is correct though, this either requires you to follow a guide and choose your path based on it or have some unexpected consequences even with cheating.

Kind of the same approach I have to LiL in that regard, since I try my utmost to ignore the game design by every means possible. Granted that LiL requires a lot less messing around - you just have to follow the guide mod and fish for the reset answers.

It is perhaps Sierra's only real shortcoming as a dev imo, her games are strict, complicated and filled with traps to trip up cheating,

If I remember correctly she has deployed two anti-cheating mechanisms, one in the form of a level you aren't supposed to get to (since there is no grinding in this game), and the other around a character that you wouldn't be able to beat/or able to beat in x turns... It turned out not being that convoluted, but one should look for it in the guide just in case. Also I personally find this anti-cheating silly in regard to single-player games, but what can you do...

 

[Yarazin]

Its shit like this that makes me think the narrator in many cases is not the Shapeshifter but Maya Prime (or some godly version of her).

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[Bingoogus]

If I remember correctly she has deployed two anti-cheating mechanisms, one in the form of a level you aren't supposed to get to (since there is no grinding in this game), and the other around a character that you wouldn't be able to beat/or able to beat in x turns... It turned out not being that convoluted, but one should look for it in the guide just in case. Also I personally find this anti-cheating silly in regard to single-player games, but what can you do...

Oh no, there's a bunch more, i remember having to account for more than two things when i last was playing it, i stopped playing after the goddess of magic was rescued and Simon was teleported somewhere so i expect there to be even more now. Pretty sure the wiki has a page listing all the cheating traps.

We should probably stop talking about this here now though, pretty off-topic.