Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.42.0] [Selebus]

[DeSkel15]

Btw, for those up for a riddle, what do these different colored lights over these different Mayas with different personalities mean?:

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I hadn't noticed it prior, but in the 'Second Sun' Happy Event, those Temporary Mayas were surrounded by various colors.

 

[hcguy]

Why so many previews of the least interesting girl.

I must have missed something - I didn't see Otoha anywhere in those previews.

 

[BlackDays]

Someone might have to quote this for DeSkel.

That's the rainbow colors.
All colors together are white.
Interestingly, violet/purple (the indigo band) is closest to white in the so called "Newton's spectrum".

One could assume, that from one point of view, thats where we're likely headed, or some cast member is headed.
(Reaching white/ The white moon?)

Wasn't there some cast member trying to find out whats at the end of the rainbow somewhere?
Could mean white.
Could also explain why Nao-chan's color is connected to violet. As a so to say chimera she is closest to white.

 

[LessonsInDissonance]

In retrospect, Maya and Nodoka don't seem all that different to me:

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Also, if I recall correctly, Rin and Nodoka seem to be the characters most related to Sel. So, Rindoka is practically Sel's logical side and emotional side combined into one character. No wonder Nodoka seems to love Rin:

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Edit: It was Rin and Maya:

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Which is Ironic, considering my initial comparison.

I think selly said that about Maya and Rin before Nodoka was a concept, but you are right about Nodoka being similiar to Maya, I didn't even think about that.
I guess he decided to make a character that is "similiar" to him and have the MC be in love with her, realized that for narrative purposes they can't have sex yet, so made an even closer self-insert so that he can fuck himself, hahahahah

 

[LessonsInDissonance]

So you're saying I'm Selebus basically.

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[Moonflare]

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If I was Selebus, Rin would probably be so chill right now that she would have turned into a monk. Cause you can bet your ass that she would not have been a virgin anymore (in any shape or form) since chapter 1.

Cue in narrator for when Akira's consoling her from the failed confession: "But not all's sadness tonight, for it sometimes takes us breaking down to realise that what's missing was in front of us all along".

Rin x Akira ship sets sail from there. And by the time we get to chapter 4 she's a sex goddess in a quest for a threesome with Kaori. That's her arc in my game. Please like and subscribe, you can support me on wherever people pay Selebus.

 

[LessonsInDissonance]

If I was Selebus, Rin would probably be so chill right now that she would have turned into a monk. Cause you can bet your ass that she would not have been a virgin anymore (in any shape or form) since chapter 1.

Cue in narrator for when Akira's consoling her from the failed confession: "But not all's sadness tonight, for it sometimes takes us breaking down to realise that what's missing was in front of us all along".

Rin x Akira ship sets sail from there. And by the time we get to chapter 4 she's a sex goddess in a quest for a threesome with Kaori. That's her arc in my game. Please like and subscribe, you can support me on wherever people pay Selebus.

It wouldn't be completely unbelievable for Selebus to be lurking here somewhere- Knowing him it could be possible he is in plain sight, foam gathering around his mouth for seeing the things being said about him.
Maybe he's not actually here himself but he definitely might be seeing some of the stuff if one of his homies is sharing the nice things being said about him in this forum.
I personally am here because I like the theories and how engaged people are, this is the best VN after all!

It would be also be very funny if someone else was here in plain sight lying to people now that it's summer, I personally can't wait for christmas

 

[ElaineZol]

I mean, I just wish she had a better storyline. But we don't judge here, DeSkel likes Nodoka and we haven't risen against him yet.

Edit: I do wonder though if the lack of Futaba content may be due to some of her stuff being transferred over to Nodoka. I think someone has already pointed out that possibility. Somewhere out there may be a universe where it's Futaba that hears the World Itself and goes on writing rants.

I like Nodoka too, I think she is one of the best characters. I actually think there are others more boring than Futaba, at least there is something there, it just needs to actually be explored; but someone like Kirin or her sister, their storylines are so meh compared to others who actually have shit going on beyond "my parents don't love me" or "I am good innocent girl" suff.

 

[Moonflare]

I like Nodoka too, I think she is one of the best characters. I actually think there are others more boring than Futaba, at least there is something there, it just needs to actually be explored; but someone like Kirin or her sister, their storylines are so meh compared to others who actually have shit going on beyond "my parents don't love me" or "I am good innocent girl" suff.

Karin has the most boring event in LiL, which is the one we see her interacting with all her schoolmates just to get home and be like "everyone loves me, but it gets tiring and all I wanted was for my sister to love me instead". And I'm like... Sure, I guess that's an issue that exists, good luck with that.

She didn't deserve this, but at least Pareidolia gave her something to deal with in her life (in narrative sense).

 

[Dc345]

In retrospect, Maya and Nodoka don't seem all that different to me:

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Also, if I recall correctly, Rin and Nodoka seem to be the characters most related to Sel. So, Rindoka is practically Sel's logical side and emotional side combined into one character. No wonder Nodoka seems to love Rin:

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Edit: It was Rin and Maya:

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Which is Ironic, considering my initial comparison.

So what you're saying is if you want to have sex with Rin or Maya you kinda want to have sex with Sel

 

[Dc345]

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[LessonsInDissonance]

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//////////////////////THE CREATOR CHOSE THE BEST SCRIPT, PRAISE BE

AKIRA = THE LIGHT COMING FROM THE SUN

YOU DON'T NEED TO BE A GENIUS TO FIGURE OUT WHAT HAVING KOMOREBI FOLLOWED BY STOMACHACHE MEANS

 

[aramaug]

In Sana's first dorm event, she talks about how she "let you inside" supposedly referring to Sensei, but we're explicitly told that she says it while speaking to a white rabbit.

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I skimmed through some other events, and while the rabbit is visible in the background sometimes, it's only prominently placed in frame two other times (that I found). Both times, Sana is masturbating.

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To me this is pretty clear indication that the white rabbits belong to Pareidolia. He's been fucking with Sana and is probably responsible for turning her horniness up to 11. It also makes nice thematic sense: HOPE = light has black rabbits, so Pareidolia = dark has white rabbits. (Plus she has spider stickers on her wall that are mentioned in the same event where the rabbit is introduced).

Very tangentially related: what is going on with Sana's hidden eye when she gets possessed in "It Comes to Claim Us All"? It looks like there's something there some of time, even when her visible iris disappears. I'd chalk it up to oversight, but the bit we see is also black instead of green. Am I seeing something wrong and this isn't her iris/pupil? Is there some weird Koikatsu thing that would explain it?

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[LessonsInDissonance]

In Sana's first dorm event, she talks about how she "let you inside" supposedly referring to Sensei, but we're explicitly told that she says it while speaking to a white rabbit.

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I skimmed through some other events, and while the rabbit is visible in the background sometimes, it's only prominently placed in frame two other times (that I found). Both times, Sana is masturbating.

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To me this is pretty clear indication that the white rabbits belong to Pareidolia. He's been fucking with Sana and is probably responsible for turning her horniness up to 11. It also makes nice thematic sense: HOPE = light has black rabbits, so Pareidolia = dark has white rabbits. (Plus she has spider stickers on her wall that are mentioned in the same event where the rabbit is introduced).

Very tangentially related: what is going on with Sana's hidden eye when she gets possessed in "It Comes to Claim Us All"? It looks like there's something there some of time, even when her visible iris disappears. I'd chalk it up to oversight, but the bit we see is also black instead of green. Am I seeing something wrong and this isn't her iris/pupil? Is there some weird Koikatsu thing that would explain it?

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HER FEELINGS AREN'T REAL, THEY ARE IMPLEMENTED, I ALREADY SAID THIS BEFORE

ONLY THE COLORFUL SOUND IS REAL, THAT'S WHY SHE'S MY NEW PRIEST

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[Apollo259]

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//////////////////////THE CREATOR CHOSE THE BEST SCRIPT, PRAISE BE

AKIRA = THE LIGHT COMING FROM THE SUN

YOU DON'T NEED TO BE A GENIUS TO FIGURE OUT WHAT HAVING KOMOREBI FOLLOWED BY STOMACHACHE MEANS

Dyslexia strikes again. I read that as STO-MA-CHA-CHE and had no idea what you were talking about. So I decided to google it, then proceeded to face palm at an extreme velocity.

 

[Moonflare]

In Sana's first dorm event, she talks about how she "let you inside" supposedly referring to Sensei, but we're explicitly told that she says it while speaking to a white rabbit.

Spoiler: Recluse

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I skimmed through some other events, and while the rabbit is visible in the background sometimes, it's only prominently placed in frame two other times (that I found). Both times, Sana is masturbating.

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To me this is pretty clear indication that the white rabbits belong to Pareidolia. He's been fucking with Sana and is probably responsible for turning her horniness up to 11. It also makes nice thematic sense: HOPE = light has black rabbits, so Pareidolia = dark has white rabbits. (Plus she has spider stickers on her wall that are mentioned in the same event where the rabbit is introduced).

Very tangentially related: what is going on with Sana's hidden eye when she gets possessed in "It Comes to Claim Us All"? It looks like there's something there some of time, even when her visible iris disappears. I'd chalk it up to oversight, but the bit we see is also black instead of green. Am I seeing something wrong and this isn't her iris/pupil? Is there some weird Koikatsu thing that would explain it?

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I'd recommend taking a look at the rabbits that are present at chicken alley cause I'm almost sure that they change colors between Kaori rescuing chickens and Nao's first appearance.

But I think rabbits may have been used as a general prop too, cause there are rabbits at the maid cafe and other places, and there is a convenient excuse of "they are everywhere as observers and to learn".

Also, if white rabbits = pareidolia, then it doesn't make much sense for them to cover their eyes, and they do so in the shrine Maya visits during their date, and in the school during the Yumi convincing sleepover event (since covering their eyes = HOPE).

 

[aramaug]

I'd recommend taking a look at the rabbits that are present at chicken alley cause I'm almost sure that they change colors between Kaori rescuing chickens and Nao's first appearance.

Yeah, that's something I've thought about posting before. In "Mysterious Abundance of Chickens" and "To Die To Sleep" there is a white rabbit in the alley. In "First Contact" it's now a black rabbit. I haven't been able to come up with any idea for why it changed.

The white rabbit in the chicken alley is consistent with Pareidolia, given the assumption that he's the one waking SeKaori. SeKaori wakes for the first time in "Mysterious Abundance of Chickens" in the alley, and for the second time in "Clouds," which occurs directly after Sensei and Kaori go to the alley and to the maid cafe, which also has a white rabbit. On the other hand, you can probably make an argument for anyone else being connected to the chicken alley as well.

One more white rabbit that I just remembered: there's one on top of the fridge in "Times New Roman", which is Pareidolia's reset event.

But I think rabbits may have been used as a general prop too, cause there are rabbits at the maid cafe and other places, and there is a convenient excuse of "they are everywhere as observers and to learn".

Also, if white rabbits = pareidolia, then it doesn't make much sense for them to cover their eyes, and they do so in the shrine Maya visits during their date, and in the school during the Yumi convincing sleepover event (since covering their eyes = HOPE).

I think the purpose of the rabbits is as observers, I just think the color indicates who they're observing for.

I don't have a good explanation for the blindfolds yet, but I don't think it can just be a HOPE thing. I can't see any way that HOPE would be involved with the blindfolded "What's "A" Stand For?" rabbit, and I also find it pretty unlikely he's connected to the Abandoned Shrine. I would also be annoyed from a narrative perspective if the rabbit color is meaningless after it's been established that all of HOPE's (known) rabbits are black.

 

[Moonflare]

Yeah, that's something I've thought about posting before. In "Mysterious Abundance of Chickens" and "To Die To Sleep" there is a white rabbit in the alley. In "First Contact" it's now a black rabbit. I haven't been able to come up with any idea for why it changed.

The white rabbit in the chicken alley is consistent with Pareidolia, given the assumption that he's the one waking SeKaori. SeKaori wakes for the first time in "Mysterious Abundance of Chickens" in the alley, and for the second time in "Clouds," which occurs directly after Sensei and Kaori go to the alley and to the maid cafe, which also has a white rabbit. On the other hand, you can probably make an argument for anyone else being connected to the chicken alley as well.

One more white rabbit that I just remembered: there's one on top of the fridge in "Times New Roman", which is Pareidolia's reset event.


I think the purpose of the rabbits is as observers, I just think the color indicates who they're observing for.

I don't have a good explanation for the blindfolds yet, but I don't think it can just be a HOPE thing. I can't see any way that HOPE would be involved with the blindfolded "What's "A" Stand For?" rabbit, and I also find it pretty unlikely he's connected to the Abandoned Shrine. I would also be annoyed from a narrative perspective if the rabbit color is meaningless after it's been established that all of HOPE's (known) rabbits are black.

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Other stuff related to Yasu, black, white, colors and the rope.

Spoiler: the rope pt 1

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Well, those are lots of new theories, and some more flimsy than others. I think there's a good chance Maya is the one saying "I love you so much" and that she's a narrator. Shadow Maya may be that very narrator, or she could be the World Itself (given the sakura trees). The rope choosing when it breaks could also mean that Maya broke Akira many times with her actions.

Anyway, it's a lot and I apologise for not properly weaving all of this into a unified theory, but I found some of them interesting and wanted to share right away.

 

[ElaineZol]

It'd be interesting if Ami thinks she's in some kind of sentient game world that won't end until Sensei knocks her up, and only then can things truly change.

Like she's some kind of NPC that guides the player at the start, before becoming a love interest, but has now gone insane because the game never ends, and only repeats.

So basically Doki-Doki's Monika?

 

[derekthered56]

Karin has the most boring event in LiL, which is the one we see her interacting with all her schoolmates just to get home and be like "everyone loves me, but it gets tiring and all I wanted was for my sister to love me instead". And I'm like... Sure, I guess that's an issue that exists, good luck with that.

She didn't deserve this, but at least Pareidolia gave her something to deal with in her life (in narrative sense).

That event was super boring, but it was kinda interesting in a meta sense. Every other girl has some sort of hole in their life that they need Sensei to fill (a metaphorical hole you filthy heathens). But Karin's life is almost perfect, and he does nothing to help with the one problem she actually has. I wonder if there's going to be an underlying reason she got sucked into Sensei's orbit, or if she really did just fall head over heels for the first guy she talked to. And I wonder if this plays into her being able to actually reject him, where the other girls would have begged forgiveness for having gotten upset.

Or maybe her story is just like this because even Selebus is too bored by her to put any thought into it.