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Finally played the halloween update. While it was gross and horrible, if what he did to Molly was your breaking point with sensei then you're either a hypocrite or you haven't been paying attention.

Here's a quick list of the gross, awful things sensei has done or has been confirmed that he did (including during his old life)

- Being a teacher who has carried on sexual relationships with multiple teenaged, realistically underage students

- had sex with his niece and her best friend

- kissed Yumi against her will

- Led Chika to believe he loves her, progressed through a sexual relationship with her while keeping her under the impression that he is being monogamous

- Pressured Miku into sexual situations when she said no

- During the argument between Maya and Noriko on the beach, it was strongly implied that he had sex with Maya "6 years ago", which would make her, best case scenario, 12 (but almost certainly younger). This would have been prior to everyone being trapped in a loop.



And this is by no means an exhaustive list, not even close. I'm beginning to think the whole "user not available" thing is sensei's delusions to hide from the responsibility of the worst things he does. It would make sense if he were in purgatory or hell and just couldn't deal with actually being responsible for the things he had done.

All that said the realest, most heartbreaking part of that scene was Molly's text afterwards.
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The whole scene was harsh and awful and frankly a good piece of writing, but it doesn't significantly change my opinion of sensei or Selebus.

I don't read this at this point because I'm rooting for the protagonist (I do feel horrible for Molly though), it's a psychological horror game and it's fulfilling that description in every sense of the word. Sensei's head is a horrifying place and the way Selebus plays with both his agency and that of the player does a very good job of mirroring what it's like to live with a mental illness. The good times are good, the bad times are super fucking dark.
 

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Small issue: Clobbering screens.rpy makes it so newer versions of the game don't show which girls have new events in the game's progress screens. Might want to try find a hook for your mod's screens so that doesn't happen.

Awesome mod though. Found it very helpful!
Thanks!

So, AFAIK (and this is something that I've looked into), there's no way around modifying screens.rpy as that's the only way to add something to the sidebar in Ren'Py. And as I'd like to stick to the "just drop the contents of the mod into the game's folder" method that people are used to from all the other Ren'Py mods, I'm kind of stuck.

If you want to use an older version of the mod with a newer version of the game, all you really need to do is insert "textbutton _("Progress") action ShowMenu('progressmod')" at line 380 of screens.rpy (with the proper indentation). That will make it so that the base game's event trackers and progress screen all reflect the newer version's contents. None of the mod's screens will reflect any of that content, however.
 
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The game telling me to stop just makes me want to play it even more. Someone in universe doesn't want us digging further.

This thing about "not implemented yet" is definitely illusion of choice, something the game pulls off extremely well. However, I do thing we have reason to worry, not because of that illusion, but because of unrelated happenings in recent updates. This isn't going to just be an 'oh, you get a choice, but it is meaningless and nothing will come of the only valid option' moment, I think it is indeed setting up for something and not something good.

I'm still not convinced this was another 'Yumi kiss' moment.

As for the letters, yeah, I'm with you there. We thought we had something and now it seems less like a sure thing. This is typical for theories here, but we'll see what's going on with these letters eventually.


Yeah, this isn't even into the real dark part yet, so I don't think this is the worst we'll see. I just went over that event again before your original comment and it doesn't seem so imagined anymore. I used to think the same, but now I am unsure and erring on the side of it being real.


Not even close, this is going to be in development for multiple years as confirmed by Selebus.


This game is NOT making things easy on us, is it. :LOL: Either way, we will probably see some form of consequence whether it's the wrath of Noriko or upsetting Chika, or worse, Yumi. :oops:
I think Sensei will end up killing himself, That is how the story starts after all.
I've actually grown to kind of like Noriko, half the time I read her parts in this update and last I just want to hug her.
Though I feel that way about a lot of the girls here. I've gotten into a real Sensei, Kirin, and Ami hate vibe.
 
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- During the argument between Maya and Noriko on the beach, it was strongly implied that he had sex with Maya "6 years ago", which would make her, best case scenario, 12 (but almost certainly younger). This would have been prior to everyone being trapped in a loop.
Are you sure about that? Has she revealed how many times the loop has repeated?

The loops have apparently been going on long before the current Sensei popped in. There was someone inhabiting the body before the current MC, and it doesn't seem to have been the original Sensei. Maya shows the fatigue of many, many perceptual years repeating the same year (well, half-year) over and over (and over). She has seen many hosts inhabiting Sensei, and if I remember correctly, most don't last very long.
 
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Are you sure about that? Has she revealed how many times the loop has repeated?

The loops have apparently been going on long before the current Sensei popped in. There was someone inhabiting the body before the current MC, and it doesn't seem to have been the original Sensei. Maya shows the fatigue of many, many perceptual years repeating the same year (well, half-year) over and over (and over). She has seen many hosts inhabiting Sensei, and if I remember correctly, most don't last very long.
Noriko isn't aware of the loops and was referring to when she originally lost sensei. Everyone's sense of time is clearly very off (referencing last year's halloween party when there shouldn't have been a last year if this was a normal situation for example), but when she made that statement it referenced events that are implied to be outside the loop.
 
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Noriko isn't aware of the loops and was referring to when she originally lost sensei. Everyone's sense of time is clearly very off (referencing last year's halloween party when there shouldn't have been a last year if this was a normal situation for example), but when she made that statement it referenced events that are implied to be outside the loop.
Sorry, by "she," I meant Maya.
 

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In response to Johlem and Alex:

Look at the LIL script and you will see there is not just 'affection' or 'lust' for the girls but also 'love' which is tracked but not told to the player.

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In response to Johlem and Alex:

Look at the LIL script and you will see there is not just 'affection' or 'lust' for the girls but also 'love' which is tracked but not told to the player.

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I'm assuming this is more being tracked because of future updates he has talked about in his discord rather than it actually being fully implemented and tracked now.
 
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What exactly is the Ayane bathroom scene that's being cut? It's been so long i can't even remember it.
 

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What exactly is the Ayane bathroom scene that's being cut? It's been so long i can't even remember it.
It was in the very first release. The girls are having a slumber party at Sensei's house, and he's in the bathroom about to take a shower when Ayane walks in on him.
 
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can somebody explain something to me? In the bluejay event, why is Makoto acting like that? Is there something going on with her we aren't privy to? What troubles her, or was it just a one-off event that God god made to fuck with us? Why does she kill herself?. Makoto is definitely my 2nd fav girl so it really bothered me, and I'm typically desensitized to this type of stuff. Only scene in the game that actually fucked with me for a while. I don't mind spoilers, if somebody could give me an explanation I would greatly appreciate it.
 
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BREAK THE DAMN FUCKING FILE UP! WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU TO POST OVER A 5 DAMN GB FILE! IT'S NOT ALLOWED ON MEGA! EITHER START USING FUCKING PATCHES OR BREAK THE DAMN FILE UP!
Or learn to use Mega properly...

Use the client, and not the browser download, first of all. Then, if you reach the download limit, shut down the client, start a VPN connection (or change it) in order to change your external IP address, relaunch the client and finish the download. You can simply switch to your cell phone data plan to do that (through internet connection sharing) if you don't have a VPN. BTW, you'll get probably way higher transfer rates with the client, and this trick works perfectly with a standard/free Mega account.
And if it's too much of a problem, simply wait 6 hours and you'll get again 5 GB allowed. You can enqueue downloads with the client, they resume properly after restarting the software or after the cooldown time. I would download a 15 GB file from Mega in around 6 minutes, VPN switching time included... :rolleyes:

What's seriously the heck with all these bandwidth issues for having so much people complaining about big files and/or begging for compressed versions? Are you living in a third-world country plagued with a civil war and/or an impaired economy? And in this case, I wonder how people would still have electricity, computers/phones, internet access AND still enough time to seek for porn... :unsure:

Here, in France, the most limited bandwidth I have is my cell phone roaming data plan, which is at 70 GB / month full speed and with only a reduced transfert rate above this limit - and certainly not a size limit... And reduced is even a big word: I'm still able to watch streamed FullHD videos. My landline optical fiber connection is fully unlimited and unrestricted. And a full VPN plan can be as low as around 1€/month - that's still cheaper than a premium Mega account and it allows more things anyway...
 

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Does anyone know how to trigger Norikos "That one FMK Scene" event in the new update? I've tried everything....
 

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In response to Johlem and Alex:

Look at the LIL script and you will see there is not just 'affection' or 'lust' for the girls but also 'love' which is tracked but not told to the player.

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thanks for the clarification, it's interesting to know that there is this hidden stat, hoping it is an impact on the future, Now I wonder what my love points are with all the girls xd

I however made the choice
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, but I missed the last Kirin event so I wonder if it is related.
 

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Finally played the halloween update. While it was gross and horrible, if what he did to Molly was your breaking point with sensei then you're either a hypocrite or you haven't been paying attention.

Here's a quick list of the gross, awful things sensei has done or has been confirmed that he did (including during his old life)

- Being a teacher who has carried on sexual relationships with multiple teenaged, realistically underage students

- had sex with his niece and her best friend

- kissed Yumi against her will

- Led Chika to believe he loves her, progressed through a sexual relationship with her while keeping her under the impression that he is being monogamous

- Pressured Miku into sexual situations when she said no

- During the argument between Maya and Noriko on the beach, it was strongly implied that he had sex with Maya "6 years ago", which would make her, best case scenario, 12 (but almost certainly younger). This would have been prior to everyone being trapped in a loop.



And this is by no means an exhaustive list, not even close. I'm beginning to think the whole "user not available" thing is sensei's delusions to hide from the responsibility of the worst things he does. It would make sense if he were in purgatory or hell and just couldn't deal with actually being responsible for the things he had done.

All that said the realest, most heartbreaking part of that scene was Molly's text afterwards.
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The whole scene was harsh and awful and frankly a good piece of writing, but it doesn't significantly change my opinion of sensei or Selebus.

I don't read this at this point because I'm rooting for the protagonist (I do feel horrible for Molly though), it's a psychological horror game and it's fulfilling that description in every sense of the word. Sensei's head is a horrifying place and the way Selebus plays with both his agency and that of the player does a very good job of mirroring what it's like to live with a mental illness. The good times are good, the bad times are super fucking dark.
I still haven't broken, but I am particularly pissed of at him for it, player Sensei I mean. Selelbus is going to have to do A LOT worse to break me. Who knows, I might just end up regretting saying that last part.

The Yumi kiss WAS NOT him, he was under the influence of some unknown power that even he remarked on in that scene. That particular part was VERY different than the others.

That last one on the beach actually makes a lot of sense considering the scene we see earlier in the game. While the scene had a fully grown Maya, that could have been his own mind replacing her actual appearance at the time with what she looks like now. Not to mention, from a technical standpoint, the restrictions Selebus is under because of Patreon.

No, that part doesn't significantly change my view of player Sensei and has only a positive effect on my view of Selebus. It was well written and deserves praise from a technical standpoint. It's only when you look at it from in universe that it's bad.

I agree on the fulfillment of its genre, this is an excellent Denpa game, I would even put it right up there with the games it takes inspiration from and am seriously considering whether this could take the throne as the king of all Denpa games. I am not kidding and I am not exaggerating when I say that, I mean every word. It is on track to fulfill that role.

I think Sensei will end up killing himself, That is how the story starts after all.
I've actually grown to kind of like Noriko, half the time I read her parts in this update and last I just want to hug her.
Though I feel that way about a lot of the girls here. I've gotten into a real Sensei, Kirin, and Ami hate vibe.
Noriko's third from the bottom on my list, the two below her are Kirin and Yumi in descending order. As for Sensei, I don't know what will happen, but it won't be good. I might still find that unpleasantness enjoyable considering who he is, though. At this point, I am of the belief that death is too good for him, he needs something far worse.

Ami was a massive bitch to Haruka in the public update, I'm still not sure I hold how she is entirely against her though
She's that way to anyone she sees as a threat to her 'love' for player Sensei, you can see it starting with every character's first invite scene.

BREAK THE DAMN FUCKING FILE UP! WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU TO POST OVER A 5 DAMN GB FILE! IT'S NOT ALLOWED ON MEGA! EITHER START USING FUCKING PATCHES OR BREAK THE DAMN FILE UP!
Or just use the Drive links from his Patreon or SubscribeStar. I have had zero problem with those.

Are you sure about that? Has she revealed how many times the loop has repeated?

The loops have apparently been going on long before the current Sensei popped in. There was someone inhabiting the body before the current MC, and it doesn't seem to have been the original Sensei. Maya shows the fatigue of many, many perceptual years repeating the same year (well, half-year) over and over (and over). She has seen many hosts inhabiting Sensei, and if I remember correctly, most don't last very long.
If you think about it, there's a scene with Maya earlier in the game that could very easily be a representation of this sexual relationship. Now, obviously Selebus can't add a Maya that looks her age from six years ago due to Patreon, so current appearance Maya will have to do.

In response to Johlem and Alex:

Look at the LIL script and you will see there is not just 'affection' or 'lust' for the girls but also 'love' which is tracked but not told to the player.

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I'm assuming this is more being tracked because of future updates he has talked about in his discord rather than it actually being fully implemented and tracked now.
I would agree with Jan on this, it sounds like a stat that isn't fully implemented, but is being tracked for future updates, when it will be fully implemented. Also, you might not want to rely on the 'she's not there, she won't find out' kind of logic because this game has been known to throw that out the window. Technically, the 'bad homie' thing in the first beach event happens without Rin even being there when you do the one Chika event that triggers it. It is also sort of hinted that she hasn't been talking to Chika about it, either, nor was Chika aware of the broken promise that leads to the bad homie path or she would have put a stop to the trigger right then and there before it even happened. That's just the kind of girl she is, extremely naive, but she cares about her friends.

What exactly is the Ayane bathroom scene that's being cut? It's been so long i can't even remember it.
It's the one at the very beginning of the game. Player Sensei goes to the bathroom, Ayane follows at some point and enters with some sexual things getting ready to happen before getting interrupted by other characters. Spoilers for directly stated details of the event, of course.

can somebody explain something to me? In the bluejay event, why is Makoto acting like that? Is there something going on with her we aren't privy to? What troubles her, or was it just a one-off event that God god made to fuck with us? Why does she kill herself?. Makoto is definitely my 2nd fav girl so it really bothered me, and I'm typically desensitized to this type of stuff. Only scene in the game that actually fucked with me for a while. I don't mind spoilers, if somebody could give me an explanation I would greatly appreciate it.
She seemed to have been overwhelmed by the pressure that comes with her being the teacher's pet of the class. She's always trying to assist Sensei with class and stuff like that, which does put pressure on a person, A LOT of pressure. She seemed to have cracked from that. As for the part where things don't go as they seem like they will, yeah, I think that might be one of the gods telling her she's not getting out of it so easily.

thanks for the clarification, it's interesting to know that there is this hidden stat, hoping it is an impact on the future, Now I wonder what my love points are with all the girls xd

I however made the choice
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, but I missed the last Kirin event so I wonder if it is related.
Knowing how Selebus does things, it will definitely have an impact.
 
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