Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.42.0] [Selebus]

[PrimeGuy]

I don't think there's been any clarification on any of the routes beyond the names of them. I'm not sure how close we are to the beginning of the Dark Route, though, given how many of the girls aren't in a relationship with Sensei yet, and I don't think the current route will end until that happens... and blows up in his face in spectacular fashion.

 

[barglenarglezous]

Has there been any clarification on what the "dark route" entails exactly? Because the level of mindfuckery has been going up quite dramatically in the latest updates.

Unless the dark route is going to showcase an even more callous and apathetic Sensei (which seems hard at this point tbh).

Well, the first time I saw the dark route mentioned was in response to someone asking if it would be possible to kill one of the girls. Which -- given the time-loop nature of the story -- wouldn't necessarily be permanent, but it would definitely push the game down a much darker path.

Selebus didn't answer whether it would be possible to do so, however, just that there would be a dark route once he finished with the harem phase.

But the game could very easily become much more violent.

I also think at some point Maya will lose her memories and become a blank slate like the other girls. The dorm war hinted at it, and she's expressed fear of that happening recently. That would leave Sensei as the sole keeper of the timeline, and with his tendency to lose control, that has some horrific potential outcomes.

 

[barglenarglezous]

Is there even any reason for those don't censor patches to be there at this point if the uncensor patches are incorporated? Odd choice.

There's been an effort to have them removed, but the mods aren't doing it. *shrug*

 

[Sargovel]

There's been an effort to have them removed, but the mods aren't doing it. *shrug*

One more thing- the compressed includes the uncensored full content too, yes?

 

[mannice431]

Well, the first time I saw the dark route mentioned was in response to someone asking if it would be possible to kill one of the girls. Which -- given the time-loop nature of the story -- wouldn't necessarily be permanent, but it would definitely push the game down a much darker path.

Selebus didn't answer whether it would be possible to do so, however, just that there would be a dark route once he finished with the harem phase.

But the game could very easily become much more violent.

I think that was hinted at recently in one of the latest updates with Ayane, i can't exactly remember the context but she said that if she could get away with keeping Sensei all to herself, she would.

I think that's a way of hinting at just how unstable things can get if the girls ever gain the power to "remember" previous loops (and we had a similar case with Rin, in the instance where she "dreamt" that she had repeated the beach event several hundred times until Chika accepted her advances).

 

[25thKnight]

Has there been any clarification on what the "dark route" entails exactly? Because the level of mindfuckery has been going up quite dramatically in the latest updates.

Unless the dark route is going to showcase an even more callous and apathetic Sensei (which seems hard at this point tbh).

I think it's where everything goes wrong like events like sui**des, extreme dreams for sensei, mind breaks(literally insane) or something. Well it's just my opinion though so don't worry

 

[Majordeathwish]

I downloaded the sex version from the mega link and when I play it's not the sex version. Annoying.

Edit: Redownloaded from the mega link again and it's a different file now. Must have been fixed.

 

[Uzu]

Any fix for the joiplay error? Happens whenever I tried to save

 

[mike2910]

Is there a compressed version with sexual content?

 

[nashk]

Ok so I am really enjoying this game. This is my first time playing a game like this (I heard it mentioned as a Denpa game?) and it's been fascinating going down the rabbit hole. The characters have all be well written (which makes the horror all the more heartbreaking), and the humor (especially with characters added about halfway through the game) has had me busting a gut laughing. I don't know why Tsuneyo's little "ah" is so funny, but it's great.

That said I do have a few criticism's of a certain puzzle that you are probably tired hearing about. Putting in spoilers just in case.

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Other than that thank you for creating such an incredible game. I don't usually have the stomach for horror but this game has me good.

 

[AKADeadLord]

Is there a compressed version with sexual content?

No its the non sex version

 

[alex2011]

That's... what I said, though? The current route is the harem route, per Selebus's own words.

I must have misread.

F. Cant wait for updates .if purity route will be happen i'll definitely go with Yumi. from the beginning i always wanted to be with Yumi and Maya. this game getting more interesting.

I'm going with Rin first, but I do have my sights on every single route.

Has there been any clarification on what the "dark route" entails exactly? Because the level of mindfuckery has been going up quite dramatically in the latest updates.

Unless the dark route is going to showcase an even more callous and apathetic Sensei (which seems hard at this point tbh).

I don't think there's been any clarification on any of the routes beyond the names of them. I'm not sure how close we are to the beginning of the Dark Route, though, given how many of the girls aren't in a relationship with Sensei yet, and I don't think the current route will end until that happens... and blows up in his face in spectacular fashion.

We don't usually know what happens until it does, Selebus has always been very tight lipped about future content. All we know is, as the name implies, things are about to get a whole lot darker. If you thought we'd reached the peak of darkness/creepiness in this game, you were VERY mistaken. This is the part in Denpa games where everything bad starts to really get going.

There have been signs that the dark route is close at hand, that dramatic rise in certain aspects being a very big one. Considering the lack of plans for a harem ending, it is entirely possible that we will not be together with most girls until the dark route.

Well, the first time I saw the dark route mentioned was in response to someone asking if it would be possible to kill one of the girls. Which -- given the time-loop nature of the story -- wouldn't necessarily be permanent, but it would definitely push the game down a much darker path.

Selebus didn't answer whether it would be possible to do so, however, just that there would be a dark route once he finished with the harem phase.

But the game could very easily become much more violent.

I also think at some point Maya will lose her memories and become a blank slate like the other girls. The dorm war hinted at it, and she's expressed fear of that happening recently. That would leave Sensei as the sole keeper of the timeline, and with his tendency to lose control, that has some horrific potential outcomes.

Extremely easily, Denpa games are known to have at least some cases of actual character death and it usually does not coincide with a reset type plot mechanic like the resets here. I doubt very much the gods will let any of the girls die before they are no longer useful to what they want, just like the Makoto thing, but once they are no longer useful, and we will likely have no clue when that occurs, thegirls could be in danger of permanent death.

We also don't know how the resets interact with a death that occurred well before they do, so this would be the time to answer the question I posed a long time ago about whether dead girls come back or just go missing and/or are forgotten entirely. The closest death or near death we even have is Makoto and she got saved by that rewind.

With Maya, it has already been established that she isn't immune, which is perfect setup for her actually living out that fear of hers and it likely would snowball into something exponentially worse. I have a feeling the only reason anyone at all was protected was by the will of these gods, whatever they may actually be.

I think that was hinted at recently in one of the latest updates with Ayane, i can't exactly remember the context but she said that if she could get away with keeping Sensei all to herself, she would.

I think that's a way of hinting at just how unstable things can get if the girls ever gain the power to "remember" previous loops (and we had a similar case with Rin, in the instance where she "dreamt" that she had repeated the beach event several hundred times until Chika accepted her advances).

Please don't let Noriko gain this power, that is one hell of a scary thought. As for Ayane, yeah, she's a bit possessive, but at least it isn't as bad as we first thought.

I think it's where everything goes wrong like events like sui**des, extreme dreams for sensei, mind breaks(literally insane) or something. Well it's just my opinion though so don't worry

A very valid opinion, Denpa games do have the history to back up what you're saying.

Ok so I am really enjoying this game. This is my first time playing a game like this (I heard it mentioned as a Denpa game?) and it's been fascinating going down the rabbit hole. The characters have all be well written (which makes the horror all the more heartbreaking), and the humor (especially with characters added about halfway through the game) has had me busting a gut laughing. I don't know why Tsuneyo's little "ah" is so funny, but it's great.

That said I do have a few criticism's of a certain puzzle that you are probably tired hearing about. Putting in spoilers just in case.

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Other than that thank you for creating such an incredible game. I don't usually have the stomach for horror but this game has me good.

1. There's not really a good point to put them early in the game and this, if Selebus was serious, came up because of people not reading the actual text and constantly getting stuck. The lesson was basically read the text so you don't get stuck when the answers are provided to you on a silver platter. Of course, in typical internet fashion, the lesson never stuck. The secondary lesson? Don't annoy Selebus or you might just make the game harder on you and everyone else.

2. There is no paste function I'm aware of, but my expertise isn't in Renpy, so there may be one.

 

[25thKnight]

F. Cant wait for updates .if purity route will be happen i'll definitely go with Yumi. from the beginning i always wanted to be with Yumi and Maya. this game getting more interesting.

I wish there would be one for Sara and Niki cause imma go for that first before anything else

 

[barglenarglezous]

I'm going with Rin first, but I do have my sights on every single route.

Bold of you to assume more than one girl will be added at a time.

 

[mannice431]

Once there's a purity route i'll just go for Ayane, that poor girl needs a break.

 

[nashk]

1. There's not really a good point to put them early in the game and this, if Selebus was serious, came up because of people not reading the actual text and constantly getting stuck. The lesson was basically read the text so you don't get stuck when the answers are provided to you on a silver platter. Of course, in typical internet fashion, the lesson never stuck. The secondary lesson? Don't annoy Selebus or you might just make the game harder on you and everyone else.

2. There is no paste function I'm aware of, but my expertise isn't in Renpy, so there may be one.

I would not call it being provided on a silver platter myself, but I can understand the authorial intent. It just feels artificially gated and doesn't flow at all with the game as a whole. At least the answers are hidden withing the recent events of the puzzle. My memory is bad enough as it is, if it was any deeper in the game I would have gone crazy.

 

[worthlesspeon]

1.5 Kind of related to above, but the part where you need to listen to audio in order to progress. The voice is attached to the music setting, and I always turn the music down lower when playing renpy games so they don't overshadow sound effects. The voice creeped me out (which was awesome), but I hadn't realized it held important information i'd need to write down. The criticism here would be to put the audio option on voice or sound effects instead as I think turning music down is pretty common, but i'm not sure how complicated that is.

It's very easy, but he's stated on numerous occasions that he doesn't care about disabled people and that if people can't experience the game exactly as he envisioned, then he doesn't want them playing.

But thankfully the individuals that aren't rabid fanboys are willing to help out. And if he eventually implements randomly generated puzzles to make a walkthrough impossible, then someone will mod the game to patch the puzzle.

 

[r98830]

There should be a warning for those with epilepsy...

 

[hcguy]

But thankfully the individuals that aren't rabid fanboys are willing to help out.

Respecting the wishes of the author is being a rabid fanboy?

 

[Dragon59]

There's also the fact that Sensei's revulsion to the idea of becoming a father is a central component of his personality that is addressed repeatedly throughout the story, which is a stupid character detail to add unless it's somehow relevant, and honestly, I think it's far more relevant than JUST the Ayane situation.

The game repeatedly brings up pregnancy as something that makes Sensei uncomfortable. At one point it's described as a feeling of physical illness. One of the "spooky" moments has a crying child playing in the audio. When a girl uses pregnancy or breeding as a sexy roleplay thing, it immediately turns him off.

Chekov's Gun: If you create a detail and constantly draw attention to it, it has to be relevant.

We have the flashback scene where Sensei and Maya where Maya talks about them both hating babies. A scene that takes place on the rooftop. And the rooftop is only used as a location immediately prior and during a reset.

Pregnancy is a core theme, and there's a very real possibility it was a pregnancy that prompted Sensei to jump off the roof at the start of the game.

Speculation: I very strongly suspect that all this is tied together. The rooftop is important to the story because that was where Sensei and Maya met up, and very likely where he impregnated her. And when he found out, where he jumped from.

And thus, it's where he's drawn when it's time to end a cycle and begin a new one. And anyone carrying his child is also drawn there.

This is why Maya's INCREDIBLY bitter about having to repeat the same 3-4 months over and over again, because it's the first half of a pregnancy that never ends. Infinite morning sickness. This would explain why she eats 2-3 times as much as the other girls. And most of the time when she's shown with a watermelon, she's holding it like a pregnancy belly. Since she was pregnant before this process began, when the world resets, she gets reset to early in the pregnancy, and remains on the roof.

But Ayane was no longer pregnant because her restore point, so to speak, is pre-pregnancy, so when the reset ends, she poofs back to where she should be.

It also makes me curious about the other time we see one of the girls on the roottop (Bluejay). This was a bit earlier before the reset of that cycle, so that could very well be an exception, but pregnancy+rooftop+jump feels awfully.....loop-like. And someone intervened pretty heavily in that scene to put her back on the roof, so it's possible her pregnancy was undone at that point by whoever intervened.

I have a thought on this theory. If correct, it is probably designed to be most horrible for those players who are of a certain age, who most likely have had children. I can't help but relate to this as a father of two, grandfather of four.