As for the ethics discussions, I only do it for Selebus, no other developer has earned that much from me. I only do it because this game actually deserves support
In December, when the whole kerfluffle with Patreon went down, he released the announcement in story form, by way of Molly finding out her favorite VN was getting censored. It's all of 3 minutes, and is more an explanation of what's happening than anything else.
He has numbers that say otherwise on the less sales part, in this case sales being entire monthly subscriptions and not one time payments, which is worse. It does help people test out a product, but that benefit to the pirate still hurts the developer unless the testing results in subscribing.
Your last point, definitely, always make sure to encourage actually supporting the developer.
Funny thing about that, it isn't stealing from Illusion when the studio program that comes with the game is made for making still renders and animations specifically for the purpose of making more games, thus getting more people to use the Illusion studio products. Not to mention Illusion could and would have started shutting projects like this down a decade ago, okay almost a decade, had they actually not meant them to exist.
If I'm getting any of the context correct here, it is entirely possible I'm not, it was viewable back then as text and will later be viewable as a side project meant to keep us occupied while the rework is completed. I missed this announcement, so I don't know all the details Selebus released about his plans over the course of the rework to prevent a complete content drought.
Plot twist: The next update is where the game goes from Muv Luv to Muv Luv:Alternative. Aliens invade and suddenly the game switches to a top down turn based strategy game.
new update was supposed to come out today, right? I didn't happen to get it... would be nice if the gamepass subscribers got information updates emailed out, like SS/patreon posts
edit: nvm, just checked SS and saw this "
The next update goes live on 3/19/22 at 10:00 PM CST.
"
new update was supposed to come out today, right? I didn't happen to get it... would be nice if the gamepass subscribers got information updates emailed out, like SS/patreon posts
edit: nvm, just checked SS and saw this "
The next update goes live on 3/19/22 at 10:00 PM CST.
"
Incidentally, I remember reading that he still uses patreon because some people might prefer using that, but has he expressed a preference? Like, does one option skim more money off the top than the other, or is one more convenient than the other for him, or something?
Incidentally, I remember reading that he still uses patreon because some people might prefer using that, but has he expressed a preference? Like, does one option skim more money off the top than the other, or is one more convenient than the other for him, or something?
Even before the Patreon mess, he'd indicated that he preferred Subscribestar, and that's a sentiment I've seen shared by many creators. Not just because it doesn't restrict content the way Patreon does, but it's also a more user-friendly experience for creators.
But Patreon offers a better user experience for subscribers and has a better range of payment options, so there's still value in maintaining one.
And as a point of reference, his Patreon's only lost about %25 of it's income since Patreon made him bleach the game, which means that his encouragement for people to go gamepass or Subscribestar hasn't really changed as many minds as he'd probably hoped.
Incidentally, I remember reading that he still uses patreon because some people might prefer using that, but has he expressed a preference? Like, does one option skim more money off the top than the other, or is one more convenient than the other for him, or something?
Even before the Patreon mess, he'd indicated that he preferred Subscribestar, and that's a sentiment I've seen shared by many creators. Not just because it doesn't restrict content the way Patreon does, but it's also a more user-friendly experience for creators.
But Patreon offers a better user experience for subscribers and has a better range of payment options, so there's still value in maintaining one.
And as a point of reference, his Patreon's only lost about %25 of it's income since Patreon made him bleach the game, which means that his encouragement for people to go gamepass or Subscribestar hasn't really changed as many minds as he'd probably hoped.
I thought Patreon was the creator friendly one as far as ease of use and SubscribeStar was the user friendly one, might have gotten them mixed, it happens. Also 25%?! I knew the game would lose some, but wow, the huggy boy incident really hit him hard. That really puts into perspective what creators that get hit by "Patreon Trust and Safety" go through. This is why I will never use them.
I thought Patreon was the creator friendly one as far as ease of use and SubscribeStar was the user friendly one, might have gotten them mixed, it happens. Also 25%?! I knew the game would lose some, but wow, the huggy boy incident really hit him hard. That really puts into perspective what creators that get hit by "Patreon Trust and Safety" go through. This is why I will never use them.
I feel I should clarify -- I am not saying he lost %25 of his supporters. Only that his income from Patreon fell by %25 since Patreon raised their stink about the game. Presumably, most of that simply moved over to Gamepass or Subscribestar.
I point that out because despite how much of a PITA it's been for both him (has to create two version of the game) and the consumer (who has to download two files to update the game through Patreon vs one download for Subscribestar), only %25 made that move.
I feel I should clarify -- I am not saying he lost %25 of his supporters. Only that his income from Patreon fell by %25 since Patreon raised their stink about the game. Presumably, most of that simply moved over to Gamepass or Subscribestar.
Yeah Sel's income was over 12,000 dollars before the patreon issue and after that patreon issue was resolved and that's where the huggyboy version came out, it fell to 7k real quick but I think the subscribers just switched to subscribestar since the subscribestar has the thing they've been paying for.
Random question but does anyone remember what Sensei's "slightly thicker" shirt is made of? Like what kind of material? I very vaguely remember him mentioning it.
Random question but does anyone remember what Sensei's "slightly thicker" shirt is made of? Like what kind of material? I very vaguely remember him mentioning it.