This has been a recurring issue for the last six months, and it's hit every compressed version since Huggy Boy started.
Your entire post hits pretty much all the nails. I find myself holding CTRL down more and more the further into the game I get. Folks framed it as 'existential' but all I'm seeing is high school nihilism masquerading as philosophy. It makes me think of a monster that's afraid to look into a mirror. Because it will have to acknowledge its a monster, but it lacks the conviction to do it. There's a lot to like about whats been created in this, but it seems like it spends more time doing mental gymnastics to justify its own depravity than it needed to.
I mean, don't get me wrong, I like this game. I did say that it is, in my opinion, one of the best, if not THE best of its genre. But let's face it: this is a fiction story about character development first and foremost. Selebus is a fiction writer and artist. But is he a good person? I dunno man, he sounds like a grown man stuck with unresolved teenager angst issues. I'm bracing myself for the inevitable A) game never being completed and the story never going anywhere or B) the ending being a disappointing mess pretending to be "deep" and "meaningful". I'll keep playing the game, because he is a good writer, but uhh, why does anyone expect this guy to even remotely resemble a decent human being after playing his game for the entirety of Chapter 1? Which you WOULD have played in order to even have reason to complain about the audio puzzles...
Absolutely. I don't disagree. You've hit pretty much all of it, in my opinion. I dont hate the game, it is definitely one of the best made I've seen here out of hundreds I've tried. No arguments at all. Love the art style, the music is great, the writing (for some of the characters) is outstanding.
I think you're confusing complaining with commentary. Am I annoyed with his ridiculous stances? Sure. Did I complain back when some of this stuff initially came to light? Absolutely. But now it's not that big of a deal, I just made a note of him being ableist and other people kinda harped on that.
Understandable. It does bother me as well, I was just mostly surprised by others' apparent surprise to this. I mean, I'd have been far more shocked if anyone were to tell me this guy was a sweetheart.
See, under normal circumstances, i.e. speaking to a person of sound mind and solid moral compass, I might even be willing to entertain that discussion. I just don't know that Selebus is that person, though again, if he did say that, wouldn't surprise me. One can only hope this game is the fulfillment of all his fantasies, and that he's not actually a predator.
That tracks. The compressed version and the android port were posted at the same time by the same person.
That's just ashine. An author can't explore dark themes without personally endorsing the acts that make it dark? And I struggle to imagine how hard one would have to misread the game to think that Sensei or Sensei's actions are okay or good. Sure, he and his situation is more complex than simply "fuck girls no matter what", but that was never an excuse.
It's not the exploration of the theme, it's the way in which it is explored. This exact same game WITHOUT the armchair philosophy would be perfectly admissible, and probably superior. WITH the armchair philosophy, it becomes a discussion on the moral ambiguity of things that are not morally ambiguous. The difference is subtle: Sensei's voice changes sometimes, such that his lines appear to come from an omniscient narrator rather than from the protagonist's monologues. In particular, this happens during Happy Scenes. At first I put it down to Selebus attempting to convey trauma or just playing with the fourth wall, in which case the exploration of the depravity of a traumatized man or of religious themes would be legitimate and interesting topics. However, the voice (the way in which the speech is structured) is too inconsistent to represent trauma or a divine presence, so I can only attribute it to an omniscient narrator: Selebus himself. The only way this could possibly be justified otherwise would be by assuming some multiple personality circumstance for Sensei, either as an actual psychological disorder or as some kind of supernatural possession. I dismiss the latter as unlikely due to several hints thrown in throughout the game, and the former as there is no indication that this would be the case.
I am glad that you do, and I hope that everyone else does as well.
yeah im 100% fine with it. Just have a small question. was there any choice that made you had to choose one of the girls and you picked chika? cuz somehow the events between us and her just so much more affectionate or it just because the script was built like that and we still following the story?
Ehhh I don't find that train of thought very convincing. Saying it's Selebus' direct voice simply because you think you ruled out the other options you thought of isn't all that strong an argument.
You would need to find a source for the following folders, as these folders contain the files that differentiate Huggy Boy and LiL.
Let's go from that then (and I don't mean to be condescending, it is genuine interest). Let me assume that you concede I have effectively ruled out the options I could think of, and let's assume for the sake of argument that it is not, in fact, Selebus' voice. Can you offer a plausible alternative I did not bring up?
1) I didn't actually think you ruled out the "divine presence", sorry if my wording was a bit deceiving.
I don't recall any particular betrayals, saveeditonline should allow the reversal of any choices I made with specific girls. I havent been using any walkthrough for this so its a boring playthrough where mistakes are
