The value of sharing event is not trigerring even though I fulfilled all the requirements according to multiple walkthroughs. Any ideas why?
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Rin seems to use make up to hide the wounds:
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Rin seems very experienced with this sort of thing, though, and has been doing it for years:
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Feeling betrayed by Otoha, and Sensei if he knew, but said nothing, on the other hand? Yeah, that might cause her to kill herself.
Depression itself wouldn't be the cause though. It'd be an impulsive broken heart. I can see her jumping to conclusions such as Chika knew, Futaba knew, Rika knew, Molly knew, etc and there's no one she can trust, and nothing left to live for. Likely enhanced by her depression where you can only really see the worst in things. In other words:
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Honestly, it's a little refreshing yet saddening to see a realistic take on this sort of thing.
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A question for folks' opinions about Io, Miku’s personal illegal pharmacist: would you do the same in her shoes? Not how you’d do it better or more strategically, but would you do exactly the same as what Io did despite now knowing the consequence on Miku’s end in the recent update? (no right or wrong answer)
I honestly would still do it without hesitation. Especially with the knowledge of knowing how Miku’s conditions were noted but never treated for however long it has been through a player perspective, Io’s less than optimal approach is at least an approach.
I remembered being extra pissed at Sensei when he lectured Io. What he said is correct, but nobody needs your moral correctness when a physical someone requires an actual solution (almost ASAP sometimes). Since no one exerted a pint of effort to make the best solution take shape, the best solution thus remains a intangible dream while spectators of the situation continue to talk shit about how this isn’t right and what could’ve been better.
It’s the “Somebody do something! But not me!” responsibility-avoiding ideology that sets me off so much. If you can't timely and willingly provide your best method when needed, don't come and complain afterwards as no one can see the future and guarantee that leaving the issue unattended (or telling someone that won't budge twice a day to go to therapy; yea unattended in my eye) wouldn't lead to a even greater consequence.
I honestly would still do it without hesitation. Especially with the knowledge of knowing how Miku’s conditions were noted but never treated for however long it has been through a player perspective, Io’s less than optimal approach is at least an approach.
I remembered being extra pissed at Sensei when he lectured Io. What he said is correct, but nobody needs your moral correctness when a physical someone requires an actual solution (almost ASAP sometimes). Since no one exerted a pint of effort to make the best solution take shape, the best solution thus remains a intangible dream while spectators of the situation continue to talk shit about how this isn’t right and what could’ve been better.
It’s the “Somebody do something! But not me!” responsibility-avoiding ideology that sets me off so much. If you can't timely and willingly provide your best method when needed, don't come and complain afterwards as no one can see the future and guarantee that leaving the issue unattended (or telling someone that won't budge twice a day to go to therapy; yea unattended in my eye) wouldn't lead to a even greater consequence.
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I mean, I was laughing for a solid minute, changing your avatar to a screenshot of your info without an avatar image was well played, did not expect that.
Oh yeah, I forgot about that little detail, she did imply pretty heavily that that's how she hides the marks based on her knowledge that it works. Also a good way to avoid the issue behind the scenes as that would take a body overlay or photoshop to add, which is getting a bit more complicated than really necessary. You've got a point on the swimming, we've never seen it, we've only ever seen her appear on the sand during beach events.
I'm not exactly worried by the cutting itself in the suicide sense at this point, it's more that it shows she is capable of extreme acts against herself. That plus a push like multiple people betraying her at once, at least in her eyes, would be a very dangerous combination. This won't be the first time she's been close to something that could push her like that if it does happen, though.
No, first of all that's illegal on the federal level here, second that's extremely dangerous. You never know how their body will react to it, you don't know what the proper dosage is, only their doctor would know and that is what I would be more inclined to go for, getting them a proper source that can help them in the most effective way with the proper instructions on any medications prescribed.
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I wouldn't. Although I am currently "Anti-pills", and admittingly I have tried giving my pills in the past to my family because I thought it might help them. Albeit, I wasn't exactly myself.
Nowadays though, I seem to share Rin's outlook:
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I also have no clue about that shit, and wouldn't want Miku's death on my conscience.
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So, does anyone think the "shotacon" is someone else besides Otoha?:
Because I'm leaning heavily towards Otoha:
Her "little brother" stuff seems to come up far too often for it not to be her imo.
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Because I'm leaning heavily towards Otoha:
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I like your theory, but what is the point of it in the first place?
Like, Sensei will seduce Otoha by roleplaying as her little bro? I don't think that is how that works.
Maybe Maya could screw up her reset prayer and make Sensei younger and herself older. I'd like to see something like that.
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Maybe an unpopular opinion but I wish Maya doesn't make it through the next reset. Some time ago I was dreading this so much... but now knowing the existence of the Wishing Well where everything is stored and that she's proven to be completely unreliable and kind of unnecessary to the way Kumon mi works, I am actually VERY ready for it to happen.
I'd argue that then we would see a more "real" Maya than the "fucked up after a million resets" version. In addition this new (old) Maya with her former personality before the resets could be a catalyst for Akira to having flashback of their time together and so we learn a bit more.
Curious on how Sensei would react, iirc (can't check, on the phone) in the past he said he would miss her but still have sex with the new Maya. Now, he's grown up a little and cares more about her, as well as being warned on what would happen... but he's what he is. I'll give him credit for now being able to turn down sex on occasions (Molly, Imani), maybe that's actual training for the real challenge: having to reject Maya's advances.
I wonder if that could be HOPE's punishment, if Maya is the one he wants Akira to take, this version of her will be another way to coerce him into it.
I'd argue that then we would see a more "real" Maya than the "fucked up after a million resets" version. In addition this new (old) Maya with her former personality before the resets could be a catalyst for Akira to having flashback of their time together and so we learn a bit more.
Curious on how Sensei would react, iirc (can't check, on the phone) in the past he said he would miss her but still have sex with the new Maya. Now, he's grown up a little and cares more about her, as well as being warned on what would happen... but he's what he is. I'll give him credit for now being able to turn down sex on occasions (Molly, Imani), maybe that's actual training for the real challenge: having to reject Maya's advances.
I wonder if that could be HOPE's punishment, if Maya is the one he wants Akira to take, this version of her will be another way to coerce him into it.
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Actually, it's related to a potential future Sekai Otoha Connection Theory.
In retrospect, she coincidentally ended up in both Niki's and Sensei's lives, she is Artistic, a Cheater, and possibly a Shotacon just like Sekai, and just like she does for Sekai, Nodoka seems to have an unexplained affinity for Otoha:
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Strange enough however, unlike Nodoka:
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Otoha was also presumably the first to find out about her school being swallowed, which I've thought may have been related to Sekai this whole time as well.
Overall: There's something suspicious about Otoha.
Edit: Then again, I could just be reading into things too much.
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She seems to subscribe to the "never force your child to do something they don't want to do" school of thought, and Miku has indicated before that she hates the idea of going to a shrink, so she probably refused and Maki didn't make an issue of it.
After her husband died, I give her a pass on not thinking to get Makoto to therapy. Headspace is all funky during stuff like that, and at a certain point you're in "do the best you can" mode.
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I think it's too late now, to make it really good it should've happened either after the second or third reset.
If it happens now it's gonna be kind of whatever, right? We already got some level of "closure" on Maya's relationship with Sensei and now we got a clearer picture, if it had happened way earlier or at least when Maya didn't make it to the rooftop that one time it could have lead to some very interesting things as we didn't know too much about her at those points.
That and the Halloween courage contest had already foreshadowed it being a possibility, so her being factory reset soon after would have hit even harder since the fear of it happening to her was still fresh.
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I agree. I do think I understand what Sel is going for here though. He probably wants to reset Maya after giving us hope that things between her and Sensei will finally work out, which is what Chapter 3 has been teasing so far. I like that idea from a writing perspective but my problem is that there was no need to have any sort of fake-out at the end of Chapter 2, much less a cliffhanger that lasted many months only to be for nothing. The build up throughout Chapter 2 could have still been there and then Maya shows up for the reset just like usual, and that way her eventual reset would be far more effective because it would come out of nowhere (but the set up for it will have already been there).
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I disagree, had it happened sooner it might have been more impactful, but I'm not looking for shock value here. There are plenty of narratives that could be derived from it as I pointed out a couple of them already. A lot from Maya's past and her relationship with Akira is still in the air. And at that point, Sensei wasn't remotely close to take the role as the world-resetter, if he makes it that far in the first place... probably would've fucked Maya and get brain-fried on the spot.
something to add to the Rin feeling hurt if Sensei dont tell Rin about Otoha is the fact Rin is a lot smarter than people give her credit for. not only did she skip a year in school she also able to put 2 and 2 together when it comes to people. she worked out a lot of things on her own like the reason she tell you to let her shot her shot frist with Chika is because she says she knows how Sensei looks at her. in the bad homie playthrought at the beach trip she work out Sensei already been doing stuff with Chika.
she also able to work out that Haruka like Sensei and even work out they was sleeping together without being told. She knew that Otoha was jealous of Chika and told her not to worry and trust her. she also looked hurt that Otoha didnt trust her. plus she smart enough to know their something wrong about the relationship it why she was so upset at the beach trip. it wasnt just Rin upset that Otoha didnt go on the trip and not relpying back she was upset beacuse she knows something wrong and this relationship is not normal right now.
so Rin is going to work out something is wrong and then work out that Sensei knows what it is because he going to act funny when she brings it up to him. right now Rin might be distracted because Otoha is sending nudes and is fingering her but that only going to last so long. i wont be surpised if Rin next event is talking to Sensei about how she feels like something wrong in the relationship. also Rin will 100% blame her self for everything and think it because she not good enough because that how depression works. if Rin find out it Niki who Otoha like it be even wrost because Rin has to compair herself to a famous idol.
also on a side note if it still just Otoha fingering rin but she not letting Rin finger her i wonder if she just dont what Rin to touch her like that or if she just using Rin for practice for Niki. or it could just be Otoha way of keeping Rin happy and quite
she also able to work out that Haruka like Sensei and even work out they was sleeping together without being told. She knew that Otoha was jealous of Chika and told her not to worry and trust her. she also looked hurt that Otoha didnt trust her. plus she smart enough to know their something wrong about the relationship it why she was so upset at the beach trip. it wasnt just Rin upset that Otoha didnt go on the trip and not relpying back she was upset beacuse she knows something wrong and this relationship is not normal right now.
so Rin is going to work out something is wrong and then work out that Sensei knows what it is because he going to act funny when she brings it up to him. right now Rin might be distracted because Otoha is sending nudes and is fingering her but that only going to last so long. i wont be surpised if Rin next event is talking to Sensei about how she feels like something wrong in the relationship. also Rin will 100% blame her self for everything and think it because she not good enough because that how depression works. if Rin find out it Niki who Otoha like it be even wrost because Rin has to compair herself to a famous idol.
also on a side note if it still just Otoha fingering rin but she not letting Rin finger her i wonder if she just dont what Rin to touch her like that or if she just using Rin for practice for Niki. or it could just be Otoha way of keeping Rin happy and quite
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Mr. Kanda forgetting anniversary, MEANWHILE vividly remembering being in the same class with Sekai, tch tch tch
I highly doubt that Maya fits into the category of something Sensei isn't supposed to have, she was already with Sensei before if current story is to be believed as true and not some in universe fabrication. It would make more sense if it was a girl he hasn't been with and is either already in a relationship, doesn't swing that way at the moment, or is taboo for one reason or another.
That also isn't HOPE's punishment, that's what HOPE wants Sensei to do before the next snow falls, then there will be unknown consequences if Sensei doesn't.
I don't think it was meant to have a world-resetter the way it was teased, like the gods finally figured out how to get rid of the one girl in their way, leaving no one to replace her and leaving everything open to their whims.
Indeed she is, something that often gets overlooked. There's even a tier list out there that had her and Rika in a "dumb and dumber" tier together by themselves. Musicians tend to be smarter than average even if they sometimes don't act like it due to how music interacts with the brain beyond the sensory side of things, there are studies on this, and I think she may even be higher intelligence than the typical musician even. She's also extremely perceptive, she notices things around her that others may not. This is indeed what leads to her asking Sensei to hold back on Chika in the early game so she has a chance first and subsequently why Sensei gets caught when he betrays her on the bad homie route.
Her perception is my current worst fear with her, that she's going to notice things and that it will involve multiple people she will see as stabbing her in the back, including her own girlfriend, and will blame herself for allowing things to happen. I do believe those nudes aren't even genuinely made for the sake of sending them to Rin like nudes would typically be sent, but as pure distraction. Just as I think Rin will pick up on there being something very wrong in her relationship with Otoha, I think Otoha might already be aware that Rin is starting to move in that direction. This could be pure distraction, appealing to Rin's lust and infatuation with Otoha to keep her from putting all the pieces in place. A brilliant strategy, I have to say, but also devious of her if that is the purpose of those nudes.
I'm not sure if she's using Rin for practice, there's too little interaction between Niki and Otoha like in the one scene to be sure, but I do think she is just using Rin, perhaps as a plaything to sate her own desires without another girl in mind at all.
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And i think that was just a snarky remark.
As i said, i think she thought of her as an alibi relationship.
We know that Akira never laid hand on Nikki, before recently (there are some implications with that depending if Sekai is up to date with things happening).
And i think Sekai knew Akira didn't have a physical relationship with Nikki, when she was alive.
And i'm with you and others, that Nikki might have been Akira's save haven from Sekai, or at least, a different approach for a relationship.
An interesting thing is:
Nikki tries to resolve Akira's problems by offering him to listen and take things out on her mentally.
Nodoka's attempt to resolve Akira's problems is to offer her body to his physical desires.
You think she hates Maya because she made him cut all ties to her and the... Nakayamas? (Nikki's family, forgot the last name.)
IIRC. Please don't nail me to it.
Sekai giving away why she hates Maya might be an important plot point we're just not allowed (by Sel) to have yet.
Hate needs a reason. And the reason i see in conjunction with the story so far, given the sexual abuse, predatory behavior and what not, one of the games tones, is, that Sekai saw Maya as a threat.
Akira picked Maya up and took her in, and he had the same predatory/faulty relationship with her, that Sekai had with him.
Only this time HE was in control. Sekai might had foreseen a shift in power relations. No toy Akira anymore.
I think that'd be a big point, to be jealous of Maya and therefore hate her.
If you wanted to point out that Maya was taking Akira away from Sekai, at least here, we're on the same page.
Or, if that really is Sekai, she's just ranting in bad mood.
*How dare you fucked that disgusting bitches pussy and* blah blah blah yeah it's ok Sekai, you don't like her, we got it. How dare Akira fucked someone besides you, you Nozomu fucking hypocrite.
Maya and Akira being fucked up was due to their pasts. With Maya's past still being a mystery and Akira's past being due to his upbringing and Sekai and the car crash. (While still, we don't know about Sekai's true nature. Meaning, if and what she is, if she is.)
If you're getting at the times where Maya fucked up some Akira incarnations in the cycles, we'd need to know if Sekai knows about it.
I think the reason Maya presumably forced Akira to cut ties with the Nakayama's and his past, was that she knew that his past would make him suffer. Did she wanted him all for herself? Yeah seems reasonable. The sole reason? I don't think so.
But we know this, from Baby Finches (depending what the event really is):
No matter what "A" Sekai might have thought or "thinks nowadays", Akira seems to have been good, with Maya alone.
(BF is pretty messy so i rather leave that in limbo.)
The problems i see here at most is that:
We still miss important info. Thats to be expected.
For me, we still need to know:
Was Sekai ever real? (Is anything in the story real? PERCEPTION)
If she was and died, was she really coming back, at least at the Yasu event?
Or is she just Akira's memories incarnate?, his perception. Like everytime someone comes up with Sekai related topics, he imagines her, and because he doesn't want to remember, he glitches.
It's hard to make any assumptions about Sekai if we don't know if her knowledge is restricted to pre car crash, or because of her living on/resurrection, knowing things that happen now.
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AFAIR Akira says something about Maya like: "She's something i'm not supposed to have."
Though, and my memory might fail me here, he might have said that about one or two other girls too.
If you think about how Akira can't have a physical, or emotional relationship with Maya, (because end result is dangerous of leading into a reset for at least Akira), than Maya seems to be the main candidate for "Something i'm not supposes to have."
Ofcourse there are plenty of other girls that would make a good "He better not defile her " as a "something he's not supposed to have."
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I just had a random thought (that could be an interesting event). Chika knowing that Sensei isnt that devoted as she thought and Rin knowing that Otoha cheated her, then both of them make out and shit impulsively.
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I was thinking the same thing but Chika's otherworldly level of delusional proves otherwise.