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Are there actual War Factions assembling now?!Make your case. Everyone knows i'm in camp Otoha but i'd like to hear you out, see why you think what you think.
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Are there actual War Factions assembling now?!Make your case. Everyone knows i'm in camp Otoha but i'd like to hear you out, see why you think what you think.
I never really thought to keep track of why. So I doubt id be able to find scenes that support it now, besides the obvious Aim dorm war contest. Mostly it was just a feeling that I got. And in a meta way it would be kind of fitting that the next person Akira decided to latch onto as a motherly figure is also a shotacon.Make your case. Everyone knows i'm in camp Otoha but i'd like to hear you out, see why you think what you think.
There are also a few "subtle" hints of Otoha liking being around kids:Otoha is the Shotacon, and the biggest proof/indication has been given by Nodoka a couple of months ago at the Actual Jesus Quotes event, and nothing else can come close, the latest otoha events only reinforce that path.
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and if we count small quibbles from cap2 the introduction of new characters like this, was always there
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Touka is just another casualty of what I would say is my primary criticism of the game, which is there are WAY too many characters. I mean in the "main cast" we have 15 girls. Of those fifteen I would say maybe three or four have enough story relevance to be considered "main" That's not even getting into the side girls who have more presence and relevance than even some of the main girls. It would be hard for anyone to figure out what to do with all these characters. I don't really envy Sel's position but the damage is done so now all he can really do is figure out ways to get everyone involved with not only the main character, but each other. I think Touka going mommy mode is just something he landed on to give her some kind of presence with all that's happening right now.Once again, on the topic of Touka - am I the only one who finds her character development kinda weird and not believable? When we first meet her, she is wholesome and gullible, and she stays this way throughout Ch2 and most of Ch3. She was not a very fleshed-out character, so obviously some depth needed to be introduced, but to me some of her new "traits" seem unwarranted and come out of nowhere.
I don't have access to the game right now and can't attach screenshots, so I might misremember things. But during the previous dorm wars, when she competed with Ami in whatever that "mom contest" thing was, she acted quite uncharacteristically - spoke to Sensei in a very suggestive manner while rubbing his back, scratched it with her fingernails and altogether was a bit too flirtatios than would be logical (as I see it) at that point in the story. But ok, that much I can get - we do know that almost all girls have the hots for Sensei, and this kind of behavior is to be expected, even if it felt a bit rushed.
What really confuses me is the whole "Touka as a mommy" thing. This really does appear out of nowhere approximately at the same time as previous dorm wars (thus the mom contest, duh), but really takes flight (and falls flat) in the very next update - the Halloween party before the last reset. This is the update when the narration, Sensei himself, other people repeatedly and explicitly comment on how "motherly" Touka is and tell us that's the reason why Sensei gravitates to her at the party (hoping she could keep him grounded while he's losing his mind pre-reset). In the following updates this view of Touka is reiterated several times (e.g. by Ayane post-reset, if I'm not mistaken) and now it seems that's just Touka's new "thing". But personally, I don't see it, I don't feel it, and to me it looks like a case of "telling, not showing": "Look, Touka's a mommy now, and Sensei has mommy issues, so he will seek refuge in her and these two characters will finally have something to do apart from calling each other by a wrong name". I just don't like when things are stated this explicitly and forced on a reader with no build-up. The only thing "mommy-Touka" had going for her was her relationship with Yasu, but then again, this usually came down to Touka just frantically running after her, more like a protective sister would do. To me this just wasn't enough.
I might be unfair in some regards, but this is the general vibe I get from Touka. Which is a pity, because I know she is quite popular in the community, and I agree that she is otherwise quite enjoyable and has a gorgeous design. But to me now she just doesn't add up, and, sadly, not in an intriguing but in an annoying way. I wonder if I am the only one?
I hate myself for it, but I'm going to be that guy. Ahem... there are actually 20 girls in the 'main cast' with 15 'side characters', going solely by how they are classified within the game. Right, if anyone wants me I'll be under the rock marked as 'pedant'.Touka is just another casualty of what I would say is my primary criticism of the game, which is there are WAY too many characters. I mean in the "main cast" we have 15 girls. Of those fifteen I would say maybe three or four have enough story relevance to be considered "main" That's not even getting into the side girls who have more presence and relevance than even some of the main girls. It would be hard for anyone to figure out what to do with all these characters. I don't really envy Sel's position but the damage is done so now all he can really do is figure out ways to get everyone involved with not only the main character, but each other. I think Touka going mommy mode is just something he landed on to give her some kind of presence with all that's happening right now.
My mistake, but I will use this as an opportunity to reinforce my point. Dumbasses like me can't even keep track of all these girls.I hate myself for it, but I'm going to be that guy. Ahem... there are actually 20 girls in the 'main cast' with 15 'side characters', going solely by how they are classified within the game. Right, if anyone wants me I'll be under the rock marked as 'pedant'.
Doesn't Touka's appearance also have to do with her fitting the motherly bill for Sensei? She looks pretty similar to to Saki(long black hair, giant chest, etc.) and we know she didn't like him (Saki) very much according to Yasu. Touka's wholesome nature along with her appearance is what probably makes Sensei see her as a maternal figure even though every important female figure in his life has/ or wants to fuck him. And I think Yumi may have fit that bill also if she didn't call him "douche monkey" and whatever creative nicknames she came up with for him that I can't think of right now all the time.Keep in mind that Sensei's sister in law, was also like a mother figure, a girlfriend, and an onahole to him.
It's not really that Touka is suddenly becoming a mother figure, it is that Sensei seems to be forcing Touka into a matriarchal role for him, which Tsubasa seems to think would disappoint Touka:You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.
Touka is more or less just being groomed into this role by those around her:Especially since it's what Sensei wants from her:You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.
Yasu is molding Touka into being a guardian, because she's too wholesome to let her freeze to death and drink alley leaves.
Tsubasa is molding Touka into being a landlord/landlady, because it's expected of her to eventually carry the family name.
Sensei is molding Touka into a motherly role because this is what he actually wants from her.
She's basically becoming Mommy Touka because she's too gullible and wholesome to resist, and well, she's good at it.
Ami and Niki are in similar situations when it comes to Sensei. I guess so is Otoha, and Nodoka in a way. Although, he has more of a big sister relationship with Niki and Otoha, even though they are both younger.
The "main cast" of the game are just students in Sensei's class. Their plot relevance doesn't have to do with whether or not they're are considered to be in the main cast or not. It's more of a identification thing. I.E Kirin being upgraded to the main cast after being placed into Sensei's class in Chapter 2.Touka is just another casualty of what I would say is my primary criticism of the game, which is there are WAY too many characters. I mean in the "main cast" we have 15 girls. Of those fifteen I would say maybe three or four have enough story relevance to be considered "main" That's not even getting into the side girls who have more presence and relevance than even some of the main girls. It would be hard for anyone to figure out what to do with all these characters. I don't really envy Sel's position but the damage is done so now all he can really do is figure out ways to get everyone involved with not only the main character, but each other. I think Touka going mommy mode is just something he landed on to give her some kind of presence with all that's happening right now.
They never called her motherly until around that time, but there were some parts that felt pretty close to it, like her brushing Yasu's hair and always treating her like a kid, and the way she talked to her from the moment they started to become actual friends or that beach event where she gifts you the flat though less present there.Once again, on the topic of Touka - am I the only one who finds her character development kinda weird and not believable? When we first meet her, she is wholesome and gullible, and she stays this way throughout Ch2 and most of Ch3. She was not a very fleshed-out character, so obviously some depth needed to be introduced, but to me some of her new "traits" seem unwarranted and come out of nowhere.
It is a test. At least for akira. Now i wonder if we will ever see what the go have to go trough.Do somebody has a theory of when/why they started?
Just why cant the masses not come up with endings/explanations that are not a variant of "it was all just a dream? And i highly doubt Sel will go for such a beginner trope.I definitely remeber most agreeing that what started all this was sensei killing himself,
Err... that's not the basis of the theory, the idea was Akira committing suicide got the gods involved, possibly as a wish from Maya and the time loop was set up with Akira getting reset like Makoto did in Blue Jay, and now they're in a very real if surreal purgatory. None of it is a dream and if it feels like a cop-out to you then i gotta wonder why when all this has to have been started for some reason, the entities didn't just a rock up one day and decide this specific dude was worth toying with.Just why cant the masses not come up with endings/explanations that are not a variant of "it was all just a dream? And i highly doubt Sel will go for such a beginner trope.
Well that's enough convincing for me. I'm not sure how I managed to ignore the connection with a lot of this. It seems very obvious when contextualised.There are also a few "subtle" hints of Otoha liking being around kids:You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.
Sensei even made a joke about her letting him fuck her if he was 11:This was a little after she blushed when he mentioned acting like a little brother:You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.
Overall: The game definitely wants us to at least think Otoha is the shotacon, and a brocon.
Interestingly, according to Nodoka, Otoha is becoming even more depraved:If I were to guess, the context clues won't be all that necessary in the near future.You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.
Okay, that sounds a bit more reasonable, but i still doubt it. Why? Because of sekai and because of a statement i think from i dont remember who it was, that he has his blackouts already for a long time. And a long time can only mean before the loops started. So the involved of those supernatural weirdos must have happen already before the loops.Err... that's not the basis of the theory, the idea was Akira committing suicide got the gods involved, possibly as a wish from Maya and the time loop was set up with Akira getting reset like Makoto did in Blue Jay, and now they're in a very real if surreal purgatory. None of it is a dream and if it feels like a cop-out to you then i gotta wonder why when all this has to have been started for some reason, the entities didn't just a rock up one day and decide this specific dude was worth toying with.
Well, the game starts with you having to jump and then you're 'isekai'd' into a sensei with no memory of your previous life, then there's the happy scene on the roof of the school where Maya says that was their spot to meet and Akira has said he'd jump off a roof if he got someone pregnant (pretty sure about that one) so the theory came about putting all those together, that Maya and Akira met on the roof, she told him she was pregnant, he jumped, she prayed, gods came up with a malicious game, and yeah, that was the theory, some details are just guesses but it fits, so even if you have to fiddle with the details a bit, it fits, no way to know if it's right, but that's the theory, one of many. Agree with it or discard it, i'm only explaining it. As always, DeSkelly can/will fix up anything i got wrong or missed.Okay, that sounds a bit more reasonable, but i still doubt it. Why? Because of sekai and because of a statement i think from i dont remember who it was, that he has his blackouts already for a long time. And a long time can only mean before the loops started. So the involved of those supernatural weirdos must have happen already before the loops.
And i am not sure that they cared about Makoto herself, but more that she was needed for their little game. Oh, now that i think about it, maybe her dad was "killed off" as punishment, to force them to interven.![]()