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so that was a fucking lie
where are your insides hanging at, Nodoka? fucking liar.
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first day of the first dorm wars. can't remember the specific event, but it's between Otoha and Rin's competition and Makoto and Nodoka's. It's somewhere in chapter 2.Which event is this?
Her insides are gonna be soon hanging in my closet.so that was a fucking lie
where are your insides hanging at, Nodoka? fucking liar.You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.
If I were to guess, Nodoka probably doesn't consider the book and everything around it, as "her" hurting Futaba. Even accidentally. It's more along the lines of Futaba hurting herself.so that was a fucking lie
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Did you forget that Sensei didn't want to talk to anybody after Maya dissapeared? The only ones you can call currently are the ones you are slowly opening up again toWhen does Wiki update?
Why doesn't Sensei wan't to call half of the class? (Game finished)
It's definitely a stance. One I'd expect from Nodoka, don't get me wrong. But it's one that's self-serving, hypocritical and convenient. You can't just, in good faith, do something that you know is going to hurt your "best friend", and blame it on them for not being "smart" enough to not delve deeper into it, or expect that they are just on a lower level than you and that eventually they'll reach your understanding of the world and conform to yours.If I were to guess, Nodoka probably doesn't consider the book and everything around it, as "her" hurting Futaba. Even accidentally. It's more along the lines of Futaba hurting herself.
Nodoka tried to keep the book out of Futaba's hands (and knowledge), but she went and bought it. Then after that, Nodoka advised Futaba to not read it and even burn it:Instead, Futaba read it all in one night, and she couldn't put it down, because it was so "good":You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.
Nodoka might even still be waiting for everything to click for Futaba so that she realizes she's overreacting:It's a questionable stance, but a stance nonetheless.You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.
Yeah. And I refuse to believe a character that's "smart" to not see how making the book can jeopardize and hurt Futaba beyond just her "feelings." While it's definitely not Futaba's fault, the idea of "sleeping with her teacher" which apparently is pretty easy surmised from the book, can jeopardize her relationship with her friends, and even her future to some extent. For Nodoka to dismiss that as "not real" and justify to herself that it doesn't count as hurting Futaba is kinda baffling.It's definitely a stance. One I'd expect from Nodoka, don't get me wrong. But it's one that's self-serving, hypocritical and convenient. You can't just, in good faith, do something that you know is going to hurt your "best friend", and blame it on them for not being "smart" enough to not delve deeper into it, or expect that they are just on a lower level than you and that eventually they'll reach your understanding of the world and conform to yours.
Futaba has read every single thing Nodoka has written, obviously she was going to read something that had her, all her friends, and the first man she loved in it. "Just don't read" is akin to adding insult to injury. And Nodoka has known Futaba for how long? Obviously she could predict at least some level of hurt from reading it.
My point is, it's not a priority for her. Futaba was never really as sacred as she likes to profess, that's a delusion she, for some reason, likes to maintain.
I mean, does anyone really think that Nodoka loses sleep about anyone's feelings, Futaba included? She and Akira are both detached, difference is that Akira admits to himself the stuff he does is fucked up and we get to see his internal dialogue. He has stuff that is actually sacred to him.
Nodoka? I'm not really sure she's even there enough to diagnose that there is a problem. She's just off. It would be wonderful if Futaba really cuts her off from her life, if the class finds out what she did to Yumi and also cut her off, but to be honest I'm not sure if any of that would even make a difference to her.
I dont.I mean, does anyone really think that Nodoka loses sleep about anyone's feelings, Futaba included?
Too sick to be eloquent, so forgive if I jumble this a bit."Nodoka doesn't have common sense" Ok, but she should have logic? Like you can be completely detached from the situation and still see how it puts Futaba at risk objectively. Like either she's smart or she's retarded, you can't just conveniently give her 0 IQ when the story needs her to be like that.
I so second this. Everytime when he tries to be mysterious, my cringe alarm goes of. Especially when he tries so cheap and lazy to shock people with RL pics of gross stuff or spiders. When he does that i cant help but roll my eyes and wonder if he is even trying.Sel isn't STUPID, but he certainly isn't a wise man as we've often seen from his childish, egotistical behavior, and while his writing has plenty of smart points to it, the attempts to be mysterious and deep often dip into pure pretention.
Nodoka, when she really gets going on her views and motives, is the pure embodiment of this.
My usual go-to reason for those "episodes" is that he's just high on something.I so second this. Everytime when he tries to be mysterious, my cringe alarm goes of. Especially when he tries so cheap and lazy to shock people with RL pics of gross stuff or spiders. When he does that i cant help but roll my eyes and wonder if he is even trying.
Nah, they feel too boring and lazy for that. I think he does genuinely believe he did create something great when he does them.My usual go-to reason for those "episodes" is that he's just high on something.
Definitely unintentional, or just too lazy to fix it. Like regarding Futaba, the conversation is actually about if you should respect your friend's feelings, even if they are unreasonable, which fair enough is an interesting idea. But the premise to even have that conversation is that Futaba's feelings are unreasonable, or in other words that Nodoka's book has 0% chance of impacting Futaba besides just her feelings.Too sick to be eloquent, so forgive if I jumble this a bit.
Nodoka isn't written like a smart character, she's written like a caricature of one. The callous, detached, possibly even sociopathic behavior, and general smugness that makes you want to punch her. No focus on any area of study so she just knows everything about everything and reads people like books despite her abject lack of social understanding.
She basically comes of as a character written to be how DeGrasse views himself, and the modern views and associations of morals being dumb and nihilism being a sign of intelligence.
If it's not intentional and she's not actually supernatural, she's a poorly written character, and even then she kind of is.
A general rule, a writer can make a character far smarter than themselves, but they can't really make a character wiser than themselves. Not intentionally, anyways.
Sel isn't STUPID, but he certainly isn't a wise man as we've often seen from his childish, egotistical behavior, and while his writing has plenty of smart points to it, the attempts to be mysterious and deep often dip into pure pretention.
Nodoka, when she really gets going on her views and motives, is the pure embodiment of this.
I like how you are describing Nodoka and not realizing she sounds exactly like how Selebus would view himself and how my theory that she's a self-insert seems more plausibleToo sick to be eloquent, so forgive if I jumble this a bit.
Nodoka isn't written like a smart character, she's written like a caricature of one. The callous, detached, possibly even sociopathic behavior, and general smugness that makes you want to punch her. No focus on any area of study so she just knows everything about everything and reads people like books despite her abject lack of social understanding.
She basically comes of as a character written to be how DeGrasse views himself, and the modern views and associations of morals being dumb and nihilism being a sign of intelligence.
If it's not intentional and she's not actually supernatural, she's a poorly written character, and even then she kind of is.
A general rule, a writer can make a character far smarter than themselves, but they can't really make a character wiser than themselves. Not intentionally, anyways.
Sel isn't STUPID, but he certainly isn't a wise man as we've often seen from his childish, egotistical behavior, and while his writing has plenty of smart points to it, the attempts to be mysterious and deep often dip into pure pretention.
Nodoka, when she really gets going on her views and motives, is the pure embodiment of this.