Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.43.0] [Selebus]

[Deathfollows]

If you’re asking about location-wise, yes Sekai’s death took place in Kumon-mi. Akira visited where the accident happened with Niki’s assistance.

more of a place and time than just a place. i suppose i should have been more specific. according to maki, makotos dad died several months previous and would have happened before the loops.

 

[Deathfollows]

I think it has been established that Sel does this on purpose to stir up the community and provoke comments, just like a controversial TikTok influencer would.
That's very Nodoka of him.

Spoiler: Speaking of tier lists, I never shared mine (it's fluctuating from update to update)

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this is very true. sel constantly riles up the discord with random shit.

 

[Deathfollows]

I would also like to share my tier list! I do not have access to the tier list website link so just visualize it in your head as you read this:

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S++: Ami

B: Sana, Yumi, Touka, Yasu
C: Ayane, Tsuneyo, Niki
D: Rin

Z (don't care about these): everyone else
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- Ami is #1 because her events are the most interesting imo and she's cute and I like yandere/insane

- Sana: adult form is cute as fuck and I like shy/quiet
- Yumi: has nice boobs and kind of reminds me of a pitiable dog, i always remember her "stuck in the vortex" event even tho i last read it years ago
- Touka: I don't know why, probably just 'cause she has nice boobs. honestly i should downgrade her to C tier for that
- Yasu: has an endearing innocence and her "evil smile" is nice =)

- Ayana: I like how much she loves Akira, and she shows her love differently than the other girls who are "in love" with him
- Tsuneyo: often has exciting events and probably has nice boobs. And her humor level is off the charts!
- Niki: her backstory with Akira is great

D Tier
- Rin: tbh I greatly prefer her ch1 form over her current form, it was good enough that it deserves to be in B tier, and I will place her current form in D tier just because of how good her ch1 form was

Z tier
Yea I don't really care about the other girls tbh. In fact, I find most of the other girls kind of annoying at times (especially Kaori, Maya, Makoto, Imani, Molly (sometimes), Futaba, Haruka, Maki, Sara, Yuki, Nao, Chika, Miku, etc. - I realize I've just listed like 1/5th of the cast xD). Once in a while there'll be an event for them that I like but I'm generally indifferent to them

Ayana? who's that? lol kidding Ayane is my top girl. for the same reasons you said but also because she is strong, intelligent, and loyal to a fault. (you dont see her strength until after she meets Daisy though).

also if you want the tier list just google Lessons in love tier maker. there are several.

 

[Deathfollows]

So what happend to the wiki? Used to be up to date like right away and had very detailed descriptions too. They haven't even put Ami's cut hair pic up yet and that's been for a few updates now.

the guy that works on it has been dragging ass. though it has been updated the main events havent been.

 

[Deathfollows]

Oh, and since we're sharing our tiers, here's mine, which I've been refining for some time. The girls are in no particular order within the tiers, FWIW.

Spoiler: The Best and The Rest, According to Moi

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this is a good tier list. fk nodoka

 

[Moonflare]

Made another tierlist, but this one's a question: which one has the most interesting mother/daughter dynamic?

Spoiler: mother/daughter tierlist

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There are a couple of dead people, but well, sometimes you have a dynamic with the memory of the dead person (Chika has inherited her responsabilities for instance).

Also added Wires as a placeholder for Tsuneyo's mom cause, well, single "parent"/"god" (?). And some tinfoil hats in the end.

So, which household has the most interesting dynamic between mothers and daughters?

Edit: refined the purpose of the question.

 

[LessonsInDissonance]

Made another tierlist, but this one's a question: which one is the best mother/daughter(s) household?

Spoiler: mother/daughter tierlist

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Also added Wires as a placeholder for Tsuneyo's mom cause, well, why not. And some tinfoil hats in the end. I find this interesting because it's easier to choose a single character, but harder to evaluate groupings against eachother. So, which one is the best?

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[GSwole]

the guy that works on it has been dragging ass. though it has been updated the main events havent been.

theres several working together on it as a group but its a passion project for them and the last main person to head the efforts got kicked by selebussy for banning a "troll" account editing the wiki that turned out to be sel pulling a prank and is now done with the community. so if you hate the speed/consistency of wiki updates then blame the big ego manchild himself

 

[Bingoogus]

Good morning/afternoon/evening you extremely weird people, my people, i am here to inform you all that i just learned the DJ Deadmau5 is supposed to be pronounced 'deadmouse'. One would think the Helmet design would give this right away but no, no, one would also think that my having grown up right in the middle the age bracket most associated with the leetspeak era would also make it painfully easy for me to recognise this most obvious of things... but no, no... worry not, for you too can achieve such feats if you dump half your points in maxing out 'autism' instead of something actually useful.

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[skwada]

Good morning/afternoon/evening you extremely weird people, my people, i am here to inform you all that i just learned the DJ Deadmau5 is supposed to be pronounced 'deadmouse'. One would think the Helmet design would give this right away but no, no, one would also think that my having grown up right in the middle the age bracket most associated with the leetspeak era would also make it painfully easy for me to recognise this most obvious of things... but no, no... worry not, for you too can achieve such feats if you dump half your points in maxing out 'autism' instead of something actually useful.

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ngl i never realized this xD i always read it as "dead mau five"

 

[Bingoogus]

ngl i never realized this xD i always read it as "dead mau five"

Yes, that is how i read it too.

 

[barglenarglezous]

ngl i never realized this xD i always read it as "dead mau five"

...and now I am hearing "Dead Mau Number 5" in my brain, to the tune of Lou Bega's Mambo #5.

I fucking hate you all.

 

[GSwole]

did no one get that from the skrillex vs mozart erb?

 

[DeSkel15]

Made another tierlist, but this one's a question: which one has the most interesting mother/daughter dynamic?

Spoiler: mother/daughter tierlist

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There are a couple of dead people, but well, sometimes you have a dynamic with the memory of the dead person (Chika has inherited her responsabilities for instance).

Also added Wires as a placeholder for Tsuneyo's mom cause, well, single "parent"/"god" (?). And some tinfoil hats in the end.

So, which household has the most interesting dynamic between mothers and daughters?

Edit: refined the purpose of the question.

Just to put this out there: It seems like Molly has been heavily influenced by her Mother. Whether it be by her suicide or her interest in Fae. It doesn't come up much, but her Mother is still playing a part in her life. It's likely what's led to Molly being Molly.

Similar could be said with Ayane and her Mother, although her mother seemed to just straight up abandon her, and Ayane can't help but still write her letters that she has nowhere to send. It's influenced her entire outlook on being a mother and she probably wouldn't be nearly as attached to Sensei and Ami if her mother never just up and left.

Then there's Yasu and her Mother...well, Yasu doesn't seem to think that she's even had a mother, and what we've seen of Yasu's past shows her mother seeing her more as a monster and a burden. Yasu being attached to some god makes sense, and Touka's somewhat become a pseudo mother for her (and Sensei).

Sara's mother seemed to either abandon her or let Sara's father beat Sara, and let's not even get started on Io's despicable pedophile of a mother. Etc.

Overall: I definitely think the Sekai/Ami Mother Daughter Dynamic is the most interesting. Seems to be at the core of this game, and, even after her death, Sekai still seems to be fucking people up including her own daughter. If there was a multiple choice for my reason why, I'd probably choose:

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Quite a few mothers have played significant roles in their daughter's lives, though. For better or worse.

 

[Moonflare]

Similar could be said with Ayane and her Mother, although her mother seemed to just straight up abandon her, and Ayane can't help but still write her letters that she has nowhere to send. It's influenced her entire outlook on being a mother and she probably wouldn't be nearly as attached to Sensei and Ami if her mother never just up and left.

Since you brought it up, what do you make of this:

Spoiler: That funny feeling

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Because it's very likely this message is from Himawari, and yet she writes in red ink. Then, as he leaves the bus, he passes by a girl waiting with a briefcase. The briefcase part made me think it was Ayane's mom at first, and he finds her familiar because, well, Ayane would look a lot like her (that's part of my theory on why her father resents her).

However, it could just be that she's familiar because she's Himawari herself and Akira can't quite remember her. Then we arrive at "children you can never get rid of", well, that fits with Ayane's mother again. But also Himawari, since she's literally a child that resists against even the basic laws of time.

Well, that he uses "girl" instead of woman probably means it's not Ayane's mom, but I don't know. What do you think?

 

[Deathfollows]

theres several working together on it as a group but its a passion project for them and the last main person to head the efforts got kicked by selebussy for banning a "troll" account editing the wiki that turned out to be sel pulling a prank and is now done with the community. so if you hate the speed/consistency of wiki updates then blame the big ego manchild himself

eh, it doesnt matter much. anytime i would need something from the wiki the people in the discord are happy to help anyway. and sel may be a man child but it doesnt really affect me as long as he continues making this story. all artists/writers have their flaws and quirks.

 

[DeSkel15]

Since you brought it up, what do you make of this:

Spoiler: That funny feeling

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Because it's very likely this message is from Himawari, and yet she writes in red ink. Then, as he leaves the bus, he passes by a girl waiting with a briefcase. The briefcase part made me think it was Ayane's mom at first, and he finds her familiar because, well, Ayane would look a lot like her (that's part of my theory on why her father resents her).

However, it could just be that she's familiar because she's Himawari herself and Akira can't quite remember her. Then we arrive at "children you can never get rid of", well, that fits with Ayane's mother again. But also Himawari, since she's literally a child that resists against even the basic laws of time.

Well, that he uses "girl" instead of woman probably means it's not Ayane's mom, but I don't know. What do you think?

I'm definitely leaning towards it just being Himawari/The Shapeshifter.

I'm not entirely sure why Ayane's mother would be near Sensei's house, so it seems a little random for her to be there, especially in a Niki Event that seems more about Ami, Sekai, and Sensei in particular.

It seems like Himawari, and those like her, still need to eat, and probably aren't as supernatural as they seem. Himawari in particular has been shown wanting a cafeteria:

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Her having a briefcase wouldn't be all that surprising. She seems to need to move around a lot for her job, and she's someone that Sensei isn't supposed to remember, yet he tends to usually find her familiar nevertheless.

Not to mention that if Himawari is his and Ayane's kid from some alternate or future timeline, that he's not supposed to know about, then she's not exactly easy to get rid of. The red ink could also be a hint at blood relation.

 

[Comiies]

if youve ever been on the discord its a large echo chamber of cock sucking normies and it hasnt changed in 4 years. the only change is sillybus openly being a greedy hypocrite since he makes enough money now. i constantly redirect ppl to just be here because its all the same content for free and no shadow speak about not using the console/urm to fix the game

I have thats why i said that :3

 

[Comiies]

Made another tierlist, but this one's a question: which one has the most interesting mother/daughter dynamic?

Spoiler: mother/daughter tierlist

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There are a couple of dead people, but well, sometimes you have a dynamic with the memory of the dead person (Chika has inherited her responsabilities for instance).

Also added Wires as a placeholder for Tsuneyo's mom cause, well, single "parent"/"god" (?). And some tinfoil hats in the end.

So, which household has the most interesting dynamic between mothers and daughters?

Edit: refined the purpose of the question.

I would say nodoka but fuck NiB so no.

Has to be either Tsuneyo or Xoanon.Also you forgor rins other mother

 

[Moonflare]

I'm definitely leaning towards it just being Himawari/The Shapeshifter.

I'm not entirely sure why Ayane's mother would be near Sensei's house, so it seems a little random for her to be there, especially in a Niki Event that seems more about Ami, Sekai, and Sensei in particular.

It seems like Himawari, and those like her, still need to eat, and probably aren't as supernatural as they seem. Himawari in particular has been shown wanting a cafeteria:

Spoiler

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Her having a briefcase wouldn't be all that surprising. She seems to need to move around a lot for her job, and she's someone that Sensei isn't supposed to remember, yet he tends to usually find her familiar nevertheless.

Not to mention that if Himawari is his and Ayane's kid from some alternate or future timeline, that he's not supposed to know about, then she's not exactly easy to get rid of. The red ink could also be a hint at blood relation.

As you mention transportation, I'm reminded of that one narrator that spoke about taking the train/bus/something to get from her house to his. I think it's during the monologue about "I wish I had held your hand more often" and "you're my first love", that many agreed on possibly being in the sense that it's common for a daughter to first love her father.

If she's literally taking transportation to get to her job right now, that whole monologue might be different in the sense that she's talking about the present rather than their past/future.

Edit: it also makes me even more confused in regards to the possibility of her genuinely not knowing what a reset is.