NEWtimmer

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haven't played this in a while.....176 days in and hardly any sex scenes with girls...what am i doing wrong? not enough hanging out with the girls?
176 days is more than enough for most events already, with around 30+ affection points and your cock is ready (Few girls only, a lot others haven't had any scenes).

I think you're just not getting enough requirements for events to occur, check the room with clocks wiki, it helps !
 
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Well, it was said that things are going to get darker, so...
I have waited for that excuse. ;)

It's one thing when dark things happen as part of the story. It is another if the protagonist (and by extension the player) is the perpetrator.

Many other people don't have an issue with it, that's fine. But I identify to a degree with the MC of a game I play and I don't enjoy being a creepy asshole like that and my enjoyment is sort of instrumental to me actually playing a game like this.
 
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JMccovery

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I have waited for that excuse. ;)

It's one thing when dark things happen as part of the story. It is another if the protagonist (and by extension the player) is the perpetrator.

Many other people don't have an issue with it, that's fine. But I identify to a degree with the MC of a game I play and I don't enjoy being a creepy asshole like that and my enjoyment is sort of instrumental to me actually playing a game like this.
It's not an excuse, it's the way things are going.

I can identify with Sensei; my rational side may not like some of the things he does, but I can separate it into a more fictional version that's a complete sadistic asshole.
 

PrimeGuy

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Sensei is by no means a good person. However, he's also not entirely horrible. Most of his horribleness comes from the fact that the answer to the question: "U want sum fuk?" is hardcoded to "YES!" in his brain. So, when Miku starts dry humping him in the middle of the night, he makes a despicable decision.

However, he's shown on several occasions that he also cares about the girls. I'm not trying to say he's not terrible. He absolutely is. I'm just not sure he's completely irredeemable.
 

alex2011

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Yeah, maybe so. But at the beginning of a story there is always the promise of redemption (or at the very least character development). If we end up with a Sensei that will just passively fuck up every girl he meets regardless of circumstance then this will (let's word this diplomatically) detract from my enjoyment of the game. I sincerely hope that will not be the point of the game. I can't empathize with someone like that and given he's the protagonist...

What he did to Miku (and to a degree Makoto) was pretty close to my red line. Yours may differ.

Bottom Line: I did not enjoy myself playing this update. I felt like a creep by extension.
Not in a Denpa game or with a character like this, there isn't. Any 'promise of redemption' only ever appears during the story and very far into it, hen the player has the chance to get on a less gloomy path that usually ends up locked behind completion of everything else. Player Sensei already specifically stated his goal and it DOES involve fucking all of the girls, though fucking them up in the emotional or mental sense goes against his goal unless done AFTER he fucks them or as a result of fucking them in the sexual sense. He is methodically trying to avoid anything that could fuck up his chance with even one of the girls, though that is not an easy task considering these are teenagers of the female variety we're talking about, but he can and will do whatever will get him in their panties.

Then you add on to this the element of the game that is the lack of control that even he has at times, like with the Yumi kiss, and things really get bad in terms of player Sensei.

haven't played this in a while.....176 days in and hardly any sex scenes with girls...what am i doing wrong? not enough hanging out with the girls?
Sel has said there are aren't a lot of sex scenes in this game (though there are actually a decent amount IMO, there's just a ton of other stuff over it).

Sounds like you might need to progress more though, less days and more affection with more girls?
Lust isn't high enough or you're going after a girl without lust scenes since not many have them right now. Also keep in mind that sex is not and never will be a focus of this game as stated by the developer, so sex scenes will be much more limited in the first place than in a game with a focus on that kind of content.

He involved(sexually/emotionally) on the entire class by this point aside from some of the new transfer, its bound to happen sometime. So welcome to the part where stuff get tangled up and fucked up. Don't expect a redemption from "sensei". The only time he shows any sign of remorse is when things don't go according to his plan. I'm expecting the relationship will be getting worse as it proceed with his attitude.
Exactly, he's only ever sorry he didn't get the result he wanted or that things didn't play out the way he wanted even with the desired result. He is NEVER sorry he carried out his plan or for any negative effects his plan ended up having after the fact. He doesn't actually care about the girls, it's all an act. The only people who care about the girls for real are the girls themselves, the few NPC adults in the game, and the players.

Well, it was said that things are going to get darker, so...
Yep, welcome to the Denpa hotel. Male bathing time is at 9pm and females at 8pm, please keep your shoes outside the room at all times when not worn and please enjoy your stay. :p

I have waited for that excuse. ;)

It's one thing when dark things happen as part of the story. It is another if the protagonist (and by extension the player) is the perpetrator.

Many other people don't have an issue with it, that's fine. But I identify to a degree with the MC of a game I play and I don't enjoy being a creepy asshole like that and my enjoyment is sort of instrumental to me actually playing a game like this.
It sounds like the issue here is attempting to do the usual and put yourself in the shoes of the MC, you're not supposed to do that in this game. He is made to be hated, despised by players from beginning to end. He is a villain protagonist in the truest sense of the term, just without the truly evil intent. In other words, he is in no way actively trying to harm the girls, he just doesn't care if they get harmed as a side effect of his work and will take the action with the best chance of getting the desired result even if it does risk harm.

Sensei is by no means a good person. However, he's also not entirely horrible. Most of his horribleness comes from the fact that the answer to the question: "U want sum fuk?" is hardcoded to "YES!" in his brain. So, when Miku starts dry humping him in the middle of the night, he makes a despicable decision.

However, he's shown on several occasions that he also cares about the girls. I'm not trying to say he's not terrible. He absolutely is. I'm just not sure he's completely irredeemable.
Yeah, that part in the spoiler was so wrong on multiple levels. He took advantage of Miku's sexually vulnerable state to attempt to fast track his way into her panties and it just didn't sit well with me at all. Honestly, he would be dead right now if I were there, and I do mean in the end of life, permanent game over sense. Thankfully it backfired and, while I really am mad at Uta for ruining the later scene in Miku's dorm and sending the girl into a panic attack, I am thankful things didn't progress any further at that point. She's obviously not ready and is feeling pressured to say yes to his advances, which makes me despise him even more than I did at the beginning of the game. He crossed a line with me this update.
 

LooLoo Baloo

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I have waited for that excuse. ;)

It's one thing when dark things happen as part of the story. It is another if the protagonist (and by extension the player) is the perpetrator.

Many other people don't have an issue with it, that's fine. But I identify to a degree with the MC of a game I play and I don't enjoy being a creepy asshole like that and my enjoyment is sort of instrumental to me actually playing a game like this.
Sensei will likely get a lot worse before/If he gets better. From what I understand, Sensei isn't supposed to be ethical or loving. I can see the plot and events taking a lot of dark turns as the story deepens.
Most games on this site have a creepy degenerate MC but they have a terrible story. Sensei can be creepy and a degenerate, but there is good story behind it.
For sure, it would be cool to make Sensei a nicer guy than he is. But people suffering from the issues he has don't suddenly become what you want them to be. Maybe in the future he will be different. But the story will be very long, and we are just at the start of it. We will have to wait and see.
 

Budoop

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Sensei is by no means a good person. However, he's also not entirely horrible. Most of his horribleness comes from the fact that the answer to the question: "U want sum fuk?" is hardcoded to "YES!" in his brain. So, when Miku starts dry humping him in the middle of the night, he makes a despicable decision.

However, he's shown on several occasions that he also cares about the girls. I'm not trying to say he's not terrible. He absolutely is. I'm just not sure he's completely irredeemable.
I would say that by definition that makes him entirely horrible.

It's more than apparent by now that the girls for some ungodly reason find themselves drawn towards Sensei in a sexual manner and despite knowing this and having been told it, he abuses it for personal gain.

You really can't get much worse than that tbh -- these girls look up to him naturally and unnaturally and he abuses that relationship.

He can't even stick to one girl regardless of player's choices.
 

ranethmoren

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However, he's shown on several occasions that he also cares about the girls. I'm not trying to say he's not terrible. He absolutely is. I'm just not sure he's completely irredeemable.
(Please note that the following hypothesis is not mine, and while it is one I hold to, it makes life much more pleasant not to think about it too often. Or ever at all.) Hypothetically, all altruism and compassion and empathy are rooted in an organism's basic need to survive and propagate. Being perceived as a "good" person (or at the very least as non-threatening) by prospective partners, particularly in this case with a group of mostly naive teenage girls, is a reproductive advantage. Any time Sensei's "conscience" kicks in, it's actually just the deepest part of his do-the-sex-to-every-girl brain telling him to chill out before he blows the sweet deal he's got going.

On the subject of the fluid sexual orientation of some/all of the female characters, remember that there's a space war. Hardly any dudes left knocking about. Humans are great at adapting to changing circumstances (given enough time), and lonely humans are especially good at self-deception to quell their loneliness. A hand or mouth on your fun bits can belong to whomever you wish if you just close your eyes and believe hard enough.

Really though, this Matrix X Truman Show X Cloud Atlas X Dead Poet's Society porn game has made the last year a helluva lot easier to deal with.
 

PrimeGuy

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You know, there's something from the most recent update that I haven't seen discussed, yet (maybe I missed it). At the end of the day with Kaori, Yumi sees Sensei with her, and is shocked by it. That really piqued my curiosity.

It could mean a few things. Could Yumi be feeling jealous? Could she be about to report to Chika that he went into another girl's apartment late at night, thinking she's finally caught him red handed? Could she know Kaori somehow? These are just some of the first possibilities to pop into my head. I'm sure there are a lot of others.

Then there's also Ami mentioning the number one maid - it's a big secret for some reason, and yet we've never seen them. I think the least likely/most shocking development would be Miss Watabe, and it's understandable why she'd want that to be a huge secret. Maya would be another interesting twist. One of the new girls in the upcoming update seems a more plausible explanation, though.
 

HogRocket

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I agree. That is a bit of a moment of truth in the writing. If -as a player- you start to feel that he (Sensei) really isn't deserving of the attention he receives because he is malicious, callous or just a creep, it'll deeply change to tone of the game. It's already skirting a "gotta catch'em all" porn trope over the story with the latest update for me.

There is a fine line between endearing indifference and just being a creepy asshole and he crossed it now for me.
yeah, putting the "using schoolgirls for sex" aside this is getting into psychological abuse territory. When the MC was kind of a shiftless, lovable slacker he was kind of forgivable but now he's becoming a sociopathic abuser, almost thriving on the pain he causes. This game is moving from being one of my favorites inspite of /because of the darker elements of the journey of self awareness ( plus the cute girls ;) ) and moving to one I don't really look forward to because I know I'm probably going to wish a painful death on the MC for the pain he's causing those around him. I'm going to see what happens in the next few updates before writing it off because I've loved it in the past and the girls are great. Maybe that's the thing - the girls are so good I want to protect them from the piece of shit MC :ROFLMAO:
 

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(Please note that the following hypothesis is not mine, and while it is one I hold to, it makes life much more pleasant not to think about it too often. Or ever at all.) Hypothetically, all altruism and compassion and empathy are rooted in an organism's basic need to survive and propagate. Being perceived as a "good" person (or at the very least as non-threatening) by prospective partners, particularly in this case with a group of mostly naive teenage girls, is a reproductive advantage. Any time Sensei's "conscience" kicks in, it's actually just the deepest part of his do-the-sex-to-every-girl brain telling him to chill out before he blows the sweet deal he's got going.

On the subject of the fluid sexual orientation of some/all of the female characters, remember that there's a space war. Hardly any dudes left knocking about. Humans are great at adapting to changing circumstances (given enough time), and lonely humans are especially good at self-deception to quell their loneliness. A hand or mouth on your fun bits can belong to whomever you wish if you just close your eyes and believe hard enough.

Really though, this Matrix X Truman Show X Cloud Atlas X Dead Poet's Society porn game has made the last year a helluva lot easier to deal with.
:coffee: *sips coffee

Sensei is horrible (we all are), but the story setup kind of left him with no choice, and plenty of opportunities to do what he does (war going on for years, no one enters or leave the city, he's the only adult male left)

If under rare and concerning circumstances like in the game, your explanation makes sense, really. Sensei wouldn't act the same if there was no war and were males around, sure he could still have the same personality and mindset, but that would also likely to change since life in Kumoni is completly normal and everyone's life will differ drastically from the game, he might become a decent human being if that's the case, who knows !

A specie that is thriving well and has formed a complex, sophisticated society, is bound to develop its own moral code, individuals who are against it are usually disliked because they can affect the how that specie thrives mentally and even physically. Not to say Sensei's action is approvable in any way, but he does care for the girls, just in his own "ways" :sneaky:
He shouldn't play around with every girl, or even behave inappropriately around them in fact, but then come on, what would be the point of the entire game ?

Ps : I think sensei could be perceived as a better person if he actually showed more emotions.
Pps : I find it funny the fact it's just an adult game and I'm going professor mode.
Ppps : I spilled my coffee
 

cckerberos

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Then there's also Ami mentioning the number one maid - it's a big secret for some reason, and yet we've never seen them. I think the least likely/most shocking development would be Miss Watabe, and it's understandable why she'd want that to be a huge secret. Maya would be another interesting twist. One of the new girls in the upcoming update seems a more plausible explanation, though.
Don't we see that it's Noriko during one of the flashes?
 

barglenarglezous

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yeah, putting the "using schoolgirls for sex" aside this is getting into psychological abuse territory. When the MC was kind of a shiftless, lovable slacker he was kind of forgivable but now he's becoming a sociopathic abuser, almost thriving on the pain he causes. This game is moving from being one of my favorites inspite of /because of the darker elements of the journey of self awareness ( plus the cute girls ;) ) and moving to one I don't really look forward to because I know I'm probably going to wish a painful death on the MC for the pain he's causing those around him. I'm going to see what happens in the next few updates before writing it off because I've loved it in the past and the girls are great. Maybe that's the thing - the girls are so good I want to protect them from the piece of shit MC :ROFLMAO:
When the game started, MC's first response is "Oh, I'm trapped in a VN," which means that at all times, he has to battle the impulse to assume that everyone he's interacting with is a fictional character, and thus he can't actually hurt them in a real sense. Then you have a clearly conflicting dual nature with some of his thoughts, to the extent that they outright overwrite one another repeatedly. The evolutioin of the MC is definitely happening, but I have always gotten the vibe that he's gonna get worse before he starts to get better, and any progress for the better at this stage is, at best, temporary.
 

SecretUser95

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When the game started, MC's first response is "Oh, I'm trapped in a VN," which means that at all times, he has to battle the impulse to assume that everyone he's interacting with is a fictional character, and thus he can't actually hurt them in a real sense. Then you have a clearly conflicting dual nature with some of his thoughts, to the extent that they outright overwrite one another repeatedly. The evolutioin of the MC is definitely happening, but I have always gotten the vibe that he's gonna get worse before he starts to get better, and any progress for the better at this stage is, at best, temporary.
I feel like that trapped in a VN was a bit of a joke, kind of like the Raid:Shadow Legends adds. I doubt sensei is aware of his status in a VN, else he would refference it a few more times in internal monologue.

Then again, sensei does speak to the player directly on many occasions, so who knows ? That might just be his internal monologue, talking to himself in second person, but it always feels like he is talking to the player.
 

SecretUser95

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I'm pretty sure that's a flashback to Noriko visiting you at your house, isn't it?
Also, Ami seems to know who the last maid is, so the thing about Noriko wanting to see how she looks in a maid dress when you invited her over wouldn't have made sense, Ami would have called her out.
 

LooLoo Baloo

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I feel like that trapped in a VN was a bit of a joke, kind of like the Raid:Shadow Legends adds. I doubt sensei is aware of his status in a VN, else he would refference it a few more times in internal monologue.

Then again, sensei does speak to the player directly on many occasions, so who knows ? That might just be his internal monologue, talking to himself in second person, but it always feels like he is talking to the player.
I would agree. It reminds me of Deadpool, who refers to himself as a comic book character in the movies a few times, in a comical way. I don't think it's related to the plot, but I think anything is a possibility right now
 

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I somehow feel being a part of the minority of people who doesnt think Sensei is the worst scum of the universe.

He started (in the game) like "Ok lets have fun in this new world and fuck what i can".
Given how he entered the world, the person he might have been before and the reason he entered it i guess that makes sense.
I think he still has a major depression going on that he might not even be totally (or not at all) aware of.
He is "fuck everything, everything is bothersome, "being around teenage girls is exhausting"".
And besides all that remember he got most of his memories taken away. What would an actual person be like if stripped from all life experience crafted character traits be? Hes almost an animal with some human traits. Like default (genetically induced) ones. Or at least he was. Since "gamestart" HE IS GROWING.

I wouldnt defend all of his actions either. But those are reallife moral standards applied to a fictional or semi fictional entity.
Besides that he does show that even he has some sort of moral concept (Sana).

Than there is how i perceive this "world" and that he is just supposed to interact with the girls the way he does and lots and lots of more stuff that would just end in some walls of text (look up my theories). But given how most of the girls (if not all in the future) throw themselfes at him... if he for what ever reason is supposed to interact with them at a given level then why defend against it. Its like he happened to find the "girl tree" where the ripe fruits are already laying on the ground and just picks them up (Maybe Hope will kick him out o'town for it or (different from religion) praises him ツ ).
Further: If he wasnt supposed to learn then why give him the chance to redeem himself with Makoto (bluejay). She could have just stayed the way she were after that. He even went out of his way for her in .16

With .16 we have the Miku dryhumping scene. So it wasnt even him initiating it (And Miku wasnt the only girl taking initiative). I guess its a moral question if what would have been better. Rejecting her or pry further. In the end she gives him the clear NO. But... what if hes right and taking herself back for Makoto will make things really bad for her in the future?

In the end with .16 things got darker. I guess we just passed the positive amplitude (for now) and things will get worse from here. I do think this had to happen one day or the other. But again to explain that, there would be one more wall of text coming.
 
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I personally love the direction that the dev has been taking Sensei. He is aware that what he is doing is wrong and you sometimes see him questioning why/if he should do some of what he does, but he does it anyways. It's almost like he has managed to separate his actions from the consequences by some sort of mental gymnastics compartmentalization. I don't know if anyone else has gotten that vibe but it really sometimes feels like Sensei is a "good person" who just keeps doing bad things without really knowing why. My theory is that whatever summoned him
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are corrupting him and everyone around him.
 
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