Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.43.0] [Selebus]

[barglenarglezous]

That's what I'm saying, Sana's brother did die to another person and Uta's brother couldn't have done it given his crime was attempted murder, not murder itself, but that doesn't rule out an attempt by Uta's brother that failed and landed him in jail. It was definitely an unknown person who ultimately succeeded. I could also see Noriko, she's just that kind of crazy. Yumi is possible, but the least likely of the three. She does show a tough side, but has yet to show a willingness to follow through with any violent act unless someone else she cares about is in danger, especially any that would result in death. Sana's brother doesn't sound like the type to endanger someone Yumi cares about, so I couldn't see her doing it for that reason. 'Happy' scenes typically can't be taken at face value, so definitely not Maya based on "Baby Finches," but if something comes up in the reality of the game to throw a similar suspicion on her, she could be considered on that evidence.

If Sana's brother was killed by another character, I wouldn't even think it's any of the above.

First candidate -- Sensei, previous iteration (not OG Sensei), during one of his mental breaks.

Actually, that's my only candidate.

 

[SymbolicSalad]

The distinction you're missing here is that if the game isn't already leaked by the two week mark, Selebus uploads it here himself. Yes, this site is overall good for him -- but only when there's a reasonable window between the Patreon launch and it appearing here for free to encourage people to sub (or to stay subbed). If it appears here within 2 hours of going live it generates substantially fewer subs for him, and any attempt to argue that as something that's good for him is going to fall flat.

Even a five day wait before leaking would probably end this constant bickering that happens every time there's an update.

This is very true but I also very much appreciate the leakers for what they do and how quickly they do it!

 

[Arato23]

Have fun storming the castle!

Do you know, that was exactly my first thought as well.

RIP Andre the Giant, I don't have a brute squad

but I'd make it happen, if only to tell Uta "There's a shortage of perfect breasts in this world. T'would be a pity to damage yours."

 

[alex2011]

If Sana's brother was killed by another character, I wouldn't even think it's any of the above.

First candidate -- Sensei, previous iteration (not OG Sensei), during one of his mental breaks.

Actually, that's my only candidate.

Another possibility, I'm still looking at Noriko and leaving the rest as possible suspects.

 

[barglenarglezous]

Another possibility, I'm still looking at Noriko and leaving the rest as possible suspects.

We know it happens several years before the game begins. This would mean all of the girls were likely 9 or 10 when it happened. To assume that any of them are responsible is....reaching, to say the least.

Now, I could see Yuki being the culprit -- battling with addiction, she might have mugged him for drug money, and that adds a lot of pathos with her now working in their bar.

 

[SymbolicSalad]

I would very much dislike if it was never leaked.

 

[thegeo]

Huh, im stuck on There is Nothing, I have completed every main and side girl's events... tried redownloading too and still nothing, wont trigger on Saturday. This is my save file

 

[Kitsune241]

Huh, im stuck on There is Nothing, I have completed every main and side girl's events... tried redownloading too and still nothing, wont trigger on Saturday. This is my save file

You're missing Haruka's lust event, that's probably what's blocking you.

 

[alex2011]

We know it happens several years before the game begins. This would mean all of the girls were likely 9 or 10 when it happened. To assume that any of them are responsible is....reaching, to say the least.

Now, I could see Yuki being the culprit -- battling with addiction, she might have mugged him for drug money, and that adds a lot of pathos with her now working in their bar.

Even that young, considering how Noriko is now, I would not eliminate the possibility just yet. As far as we know, her craziness could have been a part of her personality from the very beginning. That makes even a nine year old Noriko very dangerous with the right tools.

Yuki is definitely another possibility considering her connections to the Yakuza lifestyle, where killing is among many options they won't hesitate to use, and her addiction that led to Yumi's situation. She could have done it in a withdrawal induced rage.

Well, I just want to add that I think Selebus is very generous by releasing his game 2 weeks after the Patreon release, and I for one would not mind if it were never leaked before the Patron release. I guess the best of all worlds for devs would be if their game were here, to pick up fans, some of which become new Patrons, but there was a significant delay between Patron release, and it showing up here.

That's putting it mildly, he was under no obligation to offer a free release at all and could have kept it entirely behind the pay wall his patron releases are behind now. We're lucky to be getting the game at all and I would not only not mind, I would be freaking ecstatic if it never leaked. Think you mean public release, by the way, since patron releases are what are getting leaked. Leaking before a patron release would require getting control of Selebus's computer and uploading a completely unfinished release of the game for free.

 

[Lolicon Kami]

I would very much dislike if it was never leaked.

Please don't do this. This ain't nice, and to be blunt, you're the reason why good creators get depressed. Show some basic human dignity, please >_<

And develop enough discipline to be able to wait 2 weeks for a game! Seriously, it ain't hard...my 7-year-old nephew was able to wait a MONTH (2 week s* 2) for his parents to buy him the action figure he wanted...

Also, your quote makes me think you're a republican Biden't not listening, alright? If you're scared, contact me or some reputable person. We got facts to dispel your fears

 

[Dragon59]

There's a provision in the Patriot Act that requires US banks to report any suspicious activity. Because the adult film industry was a common haven for money laundering during the days where porn was primarily distributed through physical media, ALL adult content gets flagged by banks as suspicious.

It got worse after Trump signed FOSTA-SESTA, where now everyone is wary of being wrapped up in a trafficking case.

I'm not sure which laws impacted Onlyfans, which is impacted more by laws governing UK banks, but those two laws make it very difficult for any US-based platform to function.

Yup. More security theater to convince people that they are safer with more restrictions.

Back in the early days of porn, it was very rare to find a film developing house would process pornography. That left an exploitable opportunity for organized crime. Once things moved over to San Fernando Valley and things moved from film to video, the influence of organized crime was diminished.

 

[SymbolicSalad]

Please don't do this. This ain't nice, and to be blunt, you're the reason why good creators get depressed. Show some basic human dignity, please >_<

And develop enough discipline to be able to wait 2 weeks for a game! Seriously, it ain't hard...my 7-year-old nephew was able to wait a MONTH (2 week s* 2) for his parents to buy him the action figure he wanted...

Also, your quote makes me think you're a republican Biden't not listening, alright? If you're scared, contact me or some reputable person. We got facts to dispel your fears

 

[SymbolicSalad]

Please don't do this. This ain't nice, and to be blunt, you're the reason why good creators get depressed. Show some basic human dignity, please >_<

And develop enough discipline to be able to wait 2 weeks for a game! Seriously, it ain't hard...my 7-year-old nephew was able to wait a MONTH (2 week s* 2) for his parents to buy him the action figure he wanted...

Also, your quote makes me think you're a republican Biden't not listening, alright? If you're scared, contact me or some reputable person. We got facts to dispel your fears

Actually, I will go ahead and respond to the rest of this as well.

It is nice, it is nice to the people who spend their own money so that the rest of us don't have to, it would be basic human dignity to respect and appreciate them for taking the blow. Don't really feel like tackling the whole "this is why people get depressed" topic since it's just there to be "malicious"

Why would I wait 2 weeks for a game that I can instead get in 0 - 5 days? Of course it isn't hard but it's absolutely pointless and the only reason to do it is for some delusional sense of a moral high ground which would just make you come off as extremely pretentious.

The whole action figure comparison REALLY isn't good at all. He had to wait because he had no other way to get it, alternatively if you wanted an actual comparison that would work here it would be that he could wait a month to get an action figure, or he could just get it instantly for no downside to him. You'd only wait for the action figure if you wanted to do it to reward yourself, but since I don't particularly know the context of the situation I wouldn't know if it was supposed to be a reward or just something he wanted.

also i cannot believe you called me a republican, this is the meanest thing you've ever said to anyone and you should apologize profusely.

 

[hcguy]

I would very much dislike if it was never leaked.

Because you can't wait two weeks?

{Edit} Never mind, I saw your response to the other people, so now I am clear on the kind of person you are.

 

[SymbolicSalad]

Because you can't wait two weeks?

{Edit} Never mind, I saw your response to the other people, so now I am clear on the kind of person you are.

Yes! I am the type of person who would prefer not to wait two weeks for nothing else other than to make myself feel higher than others. How dare ((((others)))) play the game early when I didn't! They must be morally bankrupt!

I am also the type of person who appreciates leakers for what they do, they have no reason to help the rest of us, but they do, and it's great to be thankful towards them for that.

 

[Kitsune241]

Yes! I am the type of person who would prefer not to wait two weeks for nothing else other than to make myself feel higher than others. How dare ((((others)))) play the game early when I didn't! They must be morally bankrupt!

I am also the type of person who appreciates leakers for what they do, they have no reason to help the rest of us, but they do, and it's great to be thankful towards them for that.

Selebus also has no reason to release the game for free but he does, and yet you're not thankful to him for that at all.
I'm not telling you how to live your life, if you want to play the leaked version or not that's up to you, but saying stuff like "I would very much dislike if it was never leaked." is just being an asshole.
I could understand your stance if this was a game that was forever behind a paywall, but it's not. This isn't about you being thankful to the leakers, it's you being self-entitled.

 

[thegeo]

You're missing Haruka's lust event, that's probably what's blocking you.

oh shit thanks, I thought it was done but guess not

 

[SymbolicSalad]

Selebus also has no reason to release the game for free but he does, and yet you're not thankful to him for that at all.
I'm not telling you how to live your life, if you want to play the leaked version or not that's up to you, but saying stuff like "I would very much dislike if it was never leaked." is just being an asshole.
I could understand your stance if this was a game that was forever behind a paywall, but it's not. This isn't about you being thankful to the leakers, it's you being self-entitled.

There is a big difference between thinking you're entitled to something and then just doing something because you want to.

This would be the latter case. The word self-centered would have made a much better argument and point though.

 

[alex2011]

Actually, I will go ahead and respond to the rest of this as well.

It is nice, it is nice to the people who spend their own money so that the rest of us don't have to, it would be basic human dignity to respect and appreciate them for taking the blow. Don't really feel like tackling the whole "this is why people get depressed" topic since it's just there to be "malicious"

Why would I wait 2 weeks for a game that I can instead get in 0 - 5 days? Of course it isn't hard but it's absolutely pointless and the only reason to do it is for some delusional sense of a moral high ground which would just make you come off as extremely pretentious.

The whole action figure comparison REALLY isn't good at all. He had to wait because he had no other way to get it, alternatively if you wanted an actual comparison that would work here it would be that he could wait a month to get an action figure, or he could just get it instantly for no downside to him. You'd only wait for the action figure if you wanted to do it to reward yourself, but since I don't particularly know the context of the situation I wouldn't know if it was supposed to be a reward or just something he wanted.

also i cannot believe you called me a republican, this is the meanest thing you've ever said to anyone and you should apologize profusely.

Why wait? Because it is the right thing to do, perhaps? It isn't pointless, the point is to show respect to developers by waiting until they are ready to give it for free so the people who actually pay for the privilege of getting it early actually get it early. As it is now, we barely get it a few hours before the free players entirely because of these leaks and, since the only real point in being a patron benefits wise is the earlier release for this project, it takes away the incentive to be a patron for anyone who needs more than just wanting to support to be one.

You seem to be missing a point to this conversation, there IS a downside to the leaks, it incentivizes the developer to quit by causing them undue stress. That affects not just patrons, but everyone who plays the game, including people who play free whether legitimate or leaked.

Also, if you think being called a Republican is bad, just wait until you hear what actual Republicans, myself included, get called on a daily basis. Not that I care who calls me what, they can call me the worst names or whatever in the English language and it won't phase me.

Yes! I am the type of person who would prefer not to wait two weeks for nothing else other than to make myself feel higher than others. How dare ((((others)))) play the game early when I didn't! They must be morally bankrupt!

I am also the type of person who appreciates leakers for what they do, they have no reason to help the rest of us, but they do, and it's great to be thankful towards them for that.

So you appreciate that they incentivize the game being put on long term hold if not shut down entirely by the developer for potentially stress related, or other, reasons?

Selebus also has no reason to release the game for free but he does, and yet you're not thankful to him for that at all.
I'm not telling you how to live your life, if you want to play the leaked version or not that's up to you, but saying stuff like "I would very much dislike if it was never leaked." is just being an asshole.
I could understand your stance if this was a game that was forever behind a paywall, but it's not. This isn't about you being thankful to the leakers, it's you being self-entitled.

Indeed, thank you Selebus for being so generous over the more than a year of this game's development.

There is a big difference between thinking you're entitled to something and then just doing something because you want to.

This would be the latter case. The word self-centered would have made a much better argument and point though.

This part I agree on, entitled would mean you think you have some sort of right to get for free what others pay for. You have been very clear this is not the case.

 

[Lolicon Kami]

Actually, I will go ahead and respond to the rest of this as well.

It is nice, it is nice to the people who spend their own money so that the rest of us don't have to, it would be basic human dignity to respect and appreciate them for taking the blow. Don't really feel like tackling the whole "this is why people get depressed" topic since it's just there to be "malicious"

Actually, the action figure analogy stands. My nephew has his allowance; he easily could've bought it with his own money. OR, he could wait a month and get his parents to buy it (so he gets it for free).

Also, from my experience, Republicans are usually the inpatient types, the one's who don't understand others' feelings. Isn't that what you're doing, especially when you can't wait for a game that gets published for free in 2 weeks?