Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.43.0] [Selebus]

[thedoge]

I seem to be stuck in the broken world. I have 40 favor with god but there's never any option to go to a school or something else. I've restarted like 5 times now and played through but always get stuck here.(I can go to the school dorm but it just is a dead end that starts the next day.) Maybe someone could provide me with a post rewind/broken world save incase something is broken with my game.

 

[cckerberos]

but what Vladimir doesn't recognize is that the vast majority of the people who do skip that step were never going to pay anyway. if they weren't able to make that skip, they would've just...waited to read it for free.

so nothing was actually lost but the illusion of the opportunity to gain. the people who would be willing to pay, will ultimately pay, whether it be out of convenience, impatience, or just a desire to support an author they enjoy. and then the people who would not be willing to pay, simply never will.

The thing is... this doesn't actually seem to be true. There does seem to be a sizeable number of people who will pay if they have to but are also quite happy to just pirate it if that's an option. When Selebus was still on Patreon, he would occasionally show his actual numbers, and there was a noticeable difference when an update leaked like five days after release and when it leaked immediately.

 

[Sirfappington123]

The thing is... this doesn't actually seem to be true. There does seem to be a sizeable number of people who will pay if they have to but are also quite happy to just pirate it if that's an option. When Selebus was still on Patreon, he would occasionally show his actual numbers, and there was a noticeable difference when an update leaked like five days after release and when it leaked immediately.

That may be, but what % of his income is because of people discovering his game through sites like this? 50%? 70%?

Wouldn't surprise me if it's even higher than that, it's not on steam and word of mouth on a game with very "questionable" content seems unlikely.

Still i got nothing against the guy, hope he chills out a bit since pirates gonna pirate whether he wants them to or not.

 

[rightsaidfred]

That may be, but what % of his income is because of people discovering his game through sites like this? 50%? 70%?

Wouldn't surprise me if it's even higher than that, it's not on steam and word of mouth on a game with very "questionable" content seems unlikely.

Still i got nothing against the guy, hope he chills out a bit since pirates gonna pirate whether he wants them to or not.

It truly is a case of "he got what he needed from us, and now he's done with us" There are posts from him saying how much it would mean if his game got featured on f95 featured games. So really the worst kind of people, people that use, then dispose, to get what they want. I think Sensei is even better then that.

 

[worthlesspeon]

It truly is a case of "he got what he needed from us, and now he's done with us" There are posts from him saying how much it would mean if his game got featured on f95 featured games. So really the worst kind of people, people that use, then dispose, to get what they want. I think Sensei is even better then that.

If I remember right from when I briefly paid for this game and was on the discord, he did ask people to give this game good reviews specifically because that led to his game being more discoverable.

Guy’s a straight up hypocrite. He wants the benefits that come with being listed here without the downsides.

 

[Bingoogus]

I think we could question percentages and income sources forever without for sure getting anywhere useful but everything really just boils down to 'does this place pirating his game cost him more in lost subscribers than it provides through advertisement?'.

If he misses out on $1000 of subscriber money but gains $2000 from this place, he's a fucking idiot to have a problem with the site. If he's only pulling in $10k thanks to this site boosting him up and he'd be lucky to be making $1k without then he's just an asshole that bites the hand that fed him. And lastly, if this place does just cost him money that he would've gotten without this site and he never needed its free advertisement to begin with, why was he so hopeful of making it big here earlier on?

None of it adds up in way that wholly justifies his attitude but it's already been established that he's a douche so is it really a surprise? If he gets this game off this site it's not like i'm going to turn around and start giving him money, leak or no leak i wouldn't spare him a single cent if his life depended on it.

 

[worthlesspeon]

Where do even people find out about this game otherwise? The only place I’ve ever seen it being discussed outside of his personal echo chamber is here. I’m not asking rhetorically. Genuinely curious

 

[Bingoogus]

Where do even people find out about this game otherwise? The only place I’ve ever seen it being discussed outside of his personal echo chamber is here. I’m not asking rhetorically. Genuinely curious

Maybe 4chan? It does have an Itchio page so it'd be discoverable there. I've never seen it outside here myself.

 

[KnowNoHope]

I just noticed I missed the event 'daddy's girl for makoto...
don't know how...
think i might need a save for the game that has all the events to this update

 

[barglenarglezous]

I just noticed I missed the event 'daddy's girl for makoto...
don't know how...
think i might need a save for the game that has all the events to this update

You need 30 lust with Makoto before she gets called to the office.

 

[barglenarglezous]

Maybe 4chan? It does have an Itchio page so it'd be discoverable there. I've never seen it outside here myself.

I didn't find it here, but I did find it through a similar piracy site.

 

[jamyong]

Where do even people find out about this game otherwise? The only place I’ve ever seen it being discussed outside of his personal echo chamber is here. I’m not asking rhetorically. Genuinely curious

i first stumbled upon it on itchi.io in early 2021 and tried to find reddit discussions threads about it. not really much luck. i saw a few posts, presumably by selebus, that were mostly just ignored. whereas many other games receive a good amount of discussion on some of the subreddits there dedicated to adult games and visual novels

 

[g6107419]

That's between the makers of Koikatsu and Selebus - if they aren't inclined to press a legal case, that's up to them. Selebus has made it very clear that he does not condone the piracy of LiL.

What do you mean? The reason Selebus hasn't had legal action taken against him is that he's not taking payment for the game, he's taking payment for "supporting" the game and "early access" which is in his right. There will be no legal action from Sel because taking legal action means the commercialisation of the engine, which would open him to legal action.

 

[jasonmoritz]

LMAO Chika is so pissed!

 

[ciderapple]

Eh - game is bad now. was good, now it's bad. boring sex game with almost no sex.

And now i fully expect angry blind fanboys to rush to defense. But that's just the way things are. It's too bad, it was a fun game.

 

[jasonmoritz]

Eh - game is bad now. was good, now it's bad. boring sex game with almost no sex.

Eh. Sex has never been the main focus of the game. The dev's notes have been included in the original post since, like, forever.

- This is a very long visual novel that is not meant to be used as fap fodder. It is currently over 1.1 MILLION words (As of 0.19.0 Part 2) and less than 10% of that is pornographic.

 

[LooLoo Baloo]

You know I find it funny that it's even claimed that it isn't a sex game

Seeing as every event in the game (Literally every single event) mentions the fact that the protagonist either wants to f*ck or molest the girl he's talking to, or their mother, or their classmates. You can't go 2 minutes of reading without Sensei thinking about f*cking someone. Sel's in denial about what it really is

And yeah for sure there's creepy little themes and the happy events, but again they all contain r*pe or sex of some kind. You can't make a game that is entirely based on having sex with schoolgirls and pretend it's something ethically superior than what it is

 

[SexTrouble]

Guys I'm stuck, there is one main scene left, 2 for Ayana and 2 for Osaka, I have no failed scenes.

 

[Jimbolance]

Welp, I came in here after finishing the latest update hoping to find some discussions about what I thought was a pretty neat and interesting update but instead found all this dumb piracy drama. (for the record I'm on the "he should chill out" side here)

So anyway! I have some Thoughts about the Daisy stuff that happened in the update

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[ReegusLeroy]

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