Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.44.0] [Selebus]

[DeSkel15]

Mhm, I am in fact being quite positive about her future development though. Her overly and overtly seductive behaviors came from the fact that she just wanted a good dick and nothing else, and the thought that she only deserved this much. Now? I do think that she now really wants to make herself "more enough" for Sensei, so acting on impulse won't do her any favor and is probably not part of her gameplan; she's a smart girl at the end of the day.

As long as she doesn't do something irreversible, I would say others won't act too differently about it if they "casually" find out that Kirin has joined the love warfare. She was already trying to fuck their man any chance she got; a shift in reasons won't really detonate everything immediately.
(but there is always a chance of things going absolutely sideways; love is blind and gods are cruel after all)

In a way, Kirin isn't capable of acting on her newly found feelings full throttle in the same manner as her sultry desires, at least not now. She imo is that kind of tropey character who would find no difficulty yelling HEY YOU WANNA FUCK OR WHAT in front of everyone but would struggle to utter any slight romance line in the smallest volume.

Eh, Kirin is Kirin mostly to get attention and get noticed. She's the bad girl because her sister is the good girl, and she can't compete with her sister. Her pervertedness is mostly just her trying to make herself stand out, but she's full of it, which is why she cried all night after losing her virginity and memorized the room she lost it in. Sex didn't make her feel whole in the end, so now she's hoping Love will. Which it might if she doesn't let Sensei's "not enough" consume her, but this is the same girl who tormented Ayane just because she beat her in a science fair when they were younger. Being "not enough" brings out her worst qualities, and she's burned bridges before because of it. Her and Ayane were friends, but she destroyed that simply because she was "not enough" once. I also wouldn't consider Kirin all that smart, tbh. Not dumb, but definitely impulsive.

I do think that things could go well if she just tries to be one of the girls in love with him, and that could maybe even help her get some friends. I don't think that'd be enough for her though.

Also yeah, Kirin is definitely the type to talk about buttfucking before talking about holding hands. I think it's called being an Erodere.

 

[hario1225]

I'd pay to see what the original sensei and Maya was like before the perpetual time loop. I can imagine that they're more like how Sensei and Chika act as a "couple".

That's probably the reason why the original sensei was less remarkable to the other girls before cause he's probably tied to Maya and Niki was out of the picture since he probably stopped seeing her and was not present when she became an idol. I remember Tsubasa digging about his past and he turned out to be very smart in the first place.

 

[k1n5l4y3r]

I'd pay to see what the original sensei and Maya was like before the perpetual time loop. I can imagine that they're more like how Sensei and Chika act as a "couple".

That's probably the reason why the original sensei was less remarkable to the other girls before cause he's probably tied to Maya and Niki was out of the picture since he probably stopped seeing her after she became an idol. I remember Tsubasa digging about his past and he turned out to be very smart in the first place.

It seens like he was very remarkable if he got 6 girls obsessed with him, Niki, Noriko, Ami, Maya, Ayane and Sekai all were very obsessed before the loops started, in the school Makoto and Futaba already admired him, possibly Sana also admired him.
Also, he "disappeared" from Niki and Noriko's life and that is what drove her to be an Idol.

 

[hario1225]

It seens like he was very remarkable if he got 6 girls obsessed with him, Niki, Noriko, Ami, Maya, Ayane and Sekai all were very obsessed before the loops started, in the school Makoto and Futaba already admired him, possibly Sana also admired him.
Also, he "disappeared" from Niki and Noriko's life and that is what drove her to be an Idol.

I was thinking that the original sensei was popular before, but he didn't give the other girls the same attention the present sensei gives them now. Based on their stories, he's just like any normal teacher before except that he's probably got a lowkey relationship with Maya and Makoto was crushing on him since then. Although Sekai was probably a seperate thing.

 

[Saynko]

Question, Last time I played LiL was .23. If I wanna play the current version do I have to redownload the whole game? Or will the update version for .30 work?

 

[DeSkel15]

I'd pay to see what the original sensei and Maya was like before the perpetual time loop. I can imagine that they're more like how Sensei and Chika act as a "couple".

That's probably the reason why the original sensei was less remarkable to the other girls before cause he's probably tied to Maya and Niki was out of the picture since he probably stopped seeing her after she became an idol. I remember Tsubasa digging about his past and he turned out to be very smart in the first place.

Based off the timeline as I've understood it, Sekai seduces and grooms Sensei, Sensei becomes friends with and dates Niki, Noriko becomes attached to him, Sekai dies in a wreck, Sensei disappears from Niki's and Noriko's life, and takes Ami with him. Afterwards, he became a tutor and reconnected with Noriko, meets and tutors Maya, eventually stops tutoring, disappears from Noriko's life again, meets Ayane and Maya as friends of Ami's from school, and Ayane (and likely Ami) becomes obsessed with him. Years later, he has became a high school teacher at an all girls school during a space war (?), impressed Makoto and Futaba, started creeping on/counseling Yumi, and then something happened and the loops started. Somewhere around tutoring Maya to teaching the current class, they started a relationship in secret.

After countless loops of Sensei seducing and grooming everyone then being reset, current Sensei awakens. I think the countless loops of Sensei being with the girls in various ways is what makes them so taken with him. They may have been reset but the familiarity remains, which I think Maya mentioned at some point.

Overall, I'm not entirely sure how Sensei's and Maya's relationship was before the loops. Most things that hint at it seems to show a teasing romantic relationship though. Hopefully with how Maya has become, she'll eventually reveal more and more, and even more hopefully, any reveals won't reset Sensei or herself.

Of course, any of this could simply be what the characters think happened instead of what did, and the gods are just mind screwing them into believing it for some unknown reason. If any of them was ever "real" in the first place.

 

[Black Raven]

Question, Last time I played LiL was .23. If I wanna play the current version do I have to redownload the whole game? Or will the update version for .30 work?

The update patches only work if you have the version just before it (0.29 in this case) so you'll have to DL the whole thing.

 

[k1n5l4y3r]

Based off the timeline as I've understood it, Sekai seduces and grooms Sensei, Sensei becomes friends with and dates Niki, Noriko becomes attached to him, Sekai dies in a wreck, Sensei disappears from Niki's and Noriko's life, and takes Ami with him. Afterwards, he became a tutor and reconnected with Noriko, meets and tutors Maya, eventually stops tutoring, disappears from Noriko's life again, becomes a teacher, meets Ayane and Maya as friends of Ami's from school, and Ayane (and likely Ami) becomes obsessed with him. Years later, he has became a high school teacher at an all girls school during a space war (?), impressed Makoto and Futaba, started creeping on/counseling Yumi, and then something happened and the loops started. Somewhere around tutoring Maya to teaching the current class, they started a relationship in secret.

After countless loops of Sensei seducing and grooming everyone then being reset, current Sensei awakens. I think the countless loops of Sensei being with the girls in various ways is what makes them so taken with him. They may have been reset but the familiarity remains, which I think Maya mentioned at some point.

Overall, I'm not entirely sure how Sensei's and Maya's relationship was before the loops. Most things that hint at it seems to show a teasing romantic relationship though. Hopefully with how Maya has become, she'll eventually reveal more and more, and even more hopefully, any reveals won't reset Sensei or herself.

Of course, any of this could simply be what the characters think happened instead of what did, and the gods are just mind screwing them into believing it for some unknown reason. If any of them was ever "real" in the first place.

Nay, after Sekai dies he does disappear, but not for a long time, because he is still home just depressed as shit even Ami has to take care of him and give him bed baths, after he recovers he starts tutoring in the old district and there he meets Maya and soon they start a relationship, then shortly after Noriko finds him and starts being tutored too, Ami meets Ayane at school around this time too, but she does not meet Maya yet, there is even a dialogue with Ami where she says "you never tutored Maya, and if you did why would you hide a girl my age from me" or something like that.
Then he disappears for real from Noriko and Niki's life. My guess is he is going for the teacher graduation to get an official teacher job.

 

[derekthered56]

After countless loops of Sensei seducing and grooming everyone then being reset, current Sensei awakens. I think the countless loops of Sensei being with the girls in various ways is what makes them so taken with him. They may have been reset but the familiarity remains, which I think Maya mentioned at some point.

This is the first time he's met some of the girls from dorm 2 though, right? At least according to Maya, who as you say could be wrong.

 

[DeSkel15]

Nay, after Sekai dies he does disappear, but not for a long time, because he is still home just depressed as shit even Ami has to take care of him and give him bed baths, after he recovers he starts tutoring in the old district and there he meets Maya and soon they start a relationship, then shortly after Noriko finds him and starts being tutored too, Ami meets Ayane at school around this time too, but she does not meet Maya yet, there is even a dialogue with Ami where she says "you never tutored Maya, and if you did why would you hide a girl my age from me" or something like that.
Then he disappears for real from Noriko and Niki's life. My guess is he is going for the teacher graduation to get an official teacher job.

Sensei didn't have his current home at the time, and Ami didn't move in until he moved. Niki and Noriko would have found him otherwise, and he never came back into Niki's life until after the loops start. Ami didn't know about Maya's tutoring, but she has been friends with Maya for years, so it's likely she met her along with Ayane in middle school, since they are in high school now.

It's also implied that since Noriko didn't know Ayane, and was tutored back in Sensei's old apartment where he lived in the old district, she and Maya were being tutored before middle school.

I do think I should have put became a Teacher after the middle school stuff tho, my bad.

 

[DeSkel15]

This is the first time he's met some of the girls from dorm 2 though, right? At least according to Maya, who as you say could be wrong.

Besides Molly, Noriko, and Tsuneyo, (and probably Kirin) yeah. Probably why the second floor doesn't trust him as much as the first.

 

[k1n5l4y3r]

Sensei didn't have his current home at the time, and Ami didn't move in until he moved. Niki and Noriko would have found him otherwise, and he never came back into Niki's life until after the loops start. Ami didn't know about Maya's tutoring, but she has been friends with Maya for years, so it's likely she met her along with Ayane in middle school, since they are in high school now.

It's also implied that since Noriko didn't know Ayane, and was tutored back in Sensei's old apartment where he lived in the old district, she and Maya were being tutored before middle school.

I do think I should have put became a Teacher after the middle school stuff tho, my bad.

Here is the timeline I worked out sometime ago gathering info together with some other great minds:

I see, still there is no mention of him going to college, I assume he is going to college after high school during his time with Niki, from what I gathered it's a 4 years college course, which aligns with the 5 years with Niki.
If the theory that Ami is his daughter is correct he would have to be with Sekai since his 16 so revised timeline would be like:
1)He is 15, hurts his leg, gets close to Sekai.
2)He is 16 Sekai and Nozomu marry, Ami is born, he meets Niki and starts tutoring her.
3)18 he starts going out with Niki, and begins his college course.
4)5 years go by, he is 23, Ami is 7, Nozomu and Sekai dies on accident, he and Ami disappear the first time.
5)3 years later IIRC Noriko finds him tutoring on the Old District and begins being tutored.
6)Maya begins being tutored, but somehow is kept secret from Ami.
7)Ami befriends Ayane in middle school.
8)Something happens he disappears again.
9)They go live in Nozomu and Sekai old apartment, and he starts teaching in Kumon-mi High.
Somethng like that.

 

[DeSkel15]

Here is the timeline I worked out sometime ago gathering info together with some other great minds:

Noriko mentions it had been almost 3 years since she last saw him after his second disappearance, but I'm not sure where it takes her 3 years to see him after his first disappearance comes from. May have missed it. Apparently, Niki just let's her family know he's tutoring, so they call him to tutor Noriko.

 

[barglenarglezous]

Overall, I'm not entirely sure how Sensei's and Maya's relationship was before the loops. Most things that hint at it seems to show a teasing romantic relationship though. Hopefully with how Maya has become, she'll eventually reveal more and more, and even more hopefully, any reveals won't reset Sensei or herself.

Baby Finches flashes back to a point during the school year before the time bubble starts, and Maya talks about having sex with Akira as if it's a thing that's only recently started happening.

This suggests that from the time he started tutoriing her to the start of the school year it was all "talking stage"

 

[barglenarglezous]

Besides Molly, Noriko, and Tsuneyo, (and probably Kirin) yeah. Probably why the second floor doesn't trust him as much as the first.

And definitely Kirin, as Miku's teammates, he is inevitably going to meet them in every loop.

 

[BlackDays]

Noriko mentions it had been almost 3 years since she last saw him after his second disappearance, but I'm not sure where it takes her 3 years to see him after his first disappearance comes from. May have missed it. Apparently, Niki just let's her family know he's tutoring, so they call him to tutor Noriko.

Afaik it's Niki's parents that find out that Akira is tutoring, enrolling Noriko.
(Sensei/Akira starts tutoring Maya and after that (/e during that), through Noriko's parents, Noriko)
They, for what ever reason, don't tell Niki though.
Why Noriko doesn't tell Niki that she's beeing tutored by Akira, might be out of jealousy. Which is what her parents might have been counting on.

Baby Finches flashes back to a point during the school year before the time bubble starts, and Maya talks about having sex with Akira as if it's a thing that's only recently started happening.

This suggests that from the time he started tutoriing her to the start of the school year it was all "talking stage"

Baby Finches is repeating in itself. Suggesting that it is already in a/the cycle/s.
That is, unless Sensei/Akira had hallucinatory problems before the cycles, which could be a thing because car crash.

 

[derekthered56]

Besides Molly, Noriko, and Tsuneyo, (and probably Kirin) yeah. Probably why the second floor doesn't trust him as much as the first.

Do they trust him less than dorm 1 does? Uta and Io fall for him pretty easily. Touka acts tsundere but gets attached to him pretty quickly, and Tsubasa decides he's interesting almost immediately. Nodoka and Yasu are perverted weirdos so of course they get along with him. The only one that really doesn't trust him at first is Otoha.

 

[hario1225]

Do they trust him less than dorm 1 does? Uta and Io fall for him pretty easily. Touka acts tsundere but gets attached to him pretty quickly, and Tsubasa decides he's interesting almost immediately. Nodoka and Yasu are perverted weirdos so of course they get along with him. The only one that really doesn't trust him at first is Otoha.

Tsuneyo doesn't trust him that much anymore, but as we know, they eventually made up to the point that she suggested that Sensei should take her to the amusement park again if ever she forget about it by the next reset. Although it might make sense if Otoha doesn't trust him cause she's aware of his relationship with Niki and Rin.

Although I might agree that Floor 2 still trusts Sensei, but not as much as Floor 1.

 

[barglenarglezous]

Afaik it's Niki's parents that find out that Akira is tutoring, enrolling Noriko.
(Sensei/Akira starts tutoring Maya and after that (/e during that), through Noriko's parents, Noriko)
They, for what ever reason, don't tell Niki though.
Why Noriko doesn't tell Niki that she's beeing tutored by Akira, might be out of jealousy. Which is what her parents might have been counting on.

Niki's parents probably kept that information from her because her obsession with Akira was not healthy, and if she found him, and he turned her down, it would have likely been the end of her.

I'm honestly surprised they even risked letting him tutor Noriko, because the risk of Niki finding out is pretty high.

Baby Finches is repeating in itself. Suggesting that it is already in a/the cycle/s.
That is, unless Sensei/Akira had hallucinatory problems before the cycles, which could be a thing because car crash.

If it's in a cycle, it's before either of them were aware that there was one. It's more likely that this is one of the last things that happened before the time loop begins, and the takeaway is that the conversation they had on the rooftop that day was observed by Ami.

 

[DeSkel15]

And definitely Kirin, as Miku's teammates, he is inevitably going to meet them in every loop.

Yeah, it'd definitely make sense. Maya just hasn't really acknowledged her as much as far as I remember unlike the other 3.

Do they trust him less than dorm 1 does? Uta and Io fall for him pretty easily. Touka acts tsundere but gets attached to him pretty quickly, and Tsubasa decides he's interesting almost immediately. Nodoka and Yasu are perverted weirdos so of course they get along with him. The only one that really doesn't trust him at first is Otoha.

Most of the first floor accepted his sudden changes almost right off the bat and seemed a little obsessed over him far too easy. Yumi is like the only one that didn't just accept his creepiness.

Most of the second floor were at least wary of him, even when they had 10 other girls and other events to judge him by. Nodoka for example made sure to test him, Touka and Tsubasa could literally have him killed at any time and still don't really trust him imo, Otoha is Otoha, Uta met the other girls first, got used to him as a customer flattering her 24/7, and she's still only in the teasing phase, Io met him when he was with Ayane and watched to see if he'd get weird with her which he didn't, she also imprinted on him as one of the only guys around due to her mentality, not to mention had Uta convince her everything would be fine. Tsuneyo would straight up slaughter him if Molly gave the word, and it's hard to tell how Tsuneyo actually feels about him. Yasu only trusts him due to her god who can tell her things like who his mother is.
Etc.

I'm not saying the second floor doesn't like him, or trust him, they just seemed to require more effort to get that trust.