Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.44.0] [Selebus]

[JelF547]

Dont think so. Because even in the first events she said that she had no real contact. And she's kinda antisocial nerd.
Anyway i am pretty sure that she is still virgin. But it won't last long.

I assume something like "Molly's mother killed herself when she discovered that Molly's dad is fucking Molly, and then Molly's other relatives quickly sent her to japan"

Or, with a fewer words, domestic violence. She wouldn't be the first

 

[vehemental]

Other than it being supernaturally induced bigus dickus, Akira seems to be way taller than what a japanese man would be in general.

Given his height (assumed), it wouldn't be that out of place for him to also have a bigger than average dick.

Aditionally, I think the big dick thing is more of something for the male reader honestly, his targets are more often than not so small (compared to his height) that an average dick would already be bordering on overkill.

As a deconstruction of the genre, it's worked pretty well as a horror element in recent updates

 

[Dc345]

I assume something like "Molly's mother killed herself when she discovered that Molly's dad is fucking Molly, and then Molly's other relatives quickly sent her to japan"

Or, with a fewer words, domestic violence. She wouldn't be the first

No wonder Molly doesn't like NTR....

 

[DeanNorris]

No, I mean like the general idea the male reader has of "big dick" = women falling over someone. While the opposite is certainly true concerning a tiny dick, the big dick idea doesn't really apply in real life as it does in fantasy.

"truly spoken like a tiny-dick-having whiny little bitch who can't satisfy women the way they really crave to - having their orifices vigorously and brutally destroyed by a french baguette sized meat rod. pathetic." - Pareidolia, R.I.P.

(it's cool bro, he was just a scape goat, he did it for your own good, you see)

 

[manjak8]

"truly spoken like a tiny-dick-having whiny little bitch who can't satisfy women the way they really crave to - having their orifices vigorously and brutally destroyed by a french baguette sized meat rod. pathetic." - Pareidolia, R.I.P.

(it's cool bro, he was just a scape goat, he did it for your own good, you see)

true, its not proper ass fucking unless your dick is big enough to turn intestines around it like Italian pasta

 

[matt_riochka]

The most relevant recommendation would be for you to watch the entirety of the Monogatari Series though, since it's on par if not superior to LiL in every way and deals with a lot of the same themes.

I'm not too sure how good the official english translation by Vertical is (even though I've had the first volume of Owari sitting on my desk for 3 years-) but reading Kizu in my native language's edition was just as good if not better than the anime, minus the incredible visuals that come with the Kizu trilogy
so I'd also recommand checking out the light novels if anyone is looking for reading material

 

[Moonflare]

"truly spoken like a tiny-dick-having whiny little bitch who can't satisfy women the way they really crave to - having their orifices vigorously and brutally destroyed by a french baguette sized meat rod. pathetic." - Pareidolia, R.I.P.

(it's cool bro, he was just a scape goat, he did it for your own good, you see)

I mean, I'm supposedly a goth chick by the thread lore, not a futanari goth chick... so yeah no dick to speak of.

Pareidolia our one true bro, may you rest in concerned sleep at the bottom of the wishing well.

 

[Noob Gamer 24 2402]

so I'd also recommand checking out the light novels if anyone is looking for reading material

Recommend "jnovels.com" site for translated and original version of LN, only thing to keep in mind is to keep your adblock on. Translated version of Monogatari series is ass tho, so everyone is better off to just watch the anime

 

[Meskal1ne]

Pareidolia our one true bro, may you rest in concerned sleep at the bottom of the wishing well.

He could be our true bro if he had complied with the request upon returning Prime

 

[Moonflare]

I'm not too sure how good the official english translation by Vertical is (even though I've had the first volume of Owari sitting on my desk for 3 years-) but reading Kizu in my native language's edition was just as good if not better than the anime, minus the incredible visuals that come with the Kizu trilogy
so I'd also recommand checking out the light novels if anyone is looking for reading material

It was then that Oshino Meme presented Araragi with a choice: "you can be healed apart from eachother, or be forever broken (scarred) together."

And with that choice, concludes the story (monogatari) of a/my/our scar (kizu). Kizu is such a masterpiece.

That one scene, to me, touches on the core of what Monogatari is. And I think that's also why "Kyoto" hit so hard to me. If I can empathize with Sekai to some extent, if her story becomes complex, then it becomes uncomfortable. Monogatari is all about uncomfortable edges to everything, and Sekai/Pareidolia/Nodoka (blatant villains until just recently) all moving in that direction could do a lot of good to LiL's quality.

 

[manjak8]

It was then that Oshino Meme presented Araragi with a choice: "you can be healed apart from eachother, or be forever broken (scarred) together."

And with that choice, concludes the story (monogatari) of a/my/our scar (kizu). Kizu is such a masterpiece.

That one scene, to me, touches on the core of what Monogatari is. And I think that's also why "Kyoto" hit so hard to me. If I can empathize with Sekai to some extent, if her story becomes complex, then it becomes uncomfortable. Monogatari is all about uncomfortable edges to everything, and Sekai/Pareidolia/Nodoka (blatant villains until just recently) all moving in that direction could so a lot of good to LiL's quality.

i really worry about nodoka after last update, shes one of my favourites

 

[Dc345]

Since we are now officially 45% through Chapter 4, I can say Sel really turned Chapter 4 around. Because the first couple of updates in chapter 4 were less than stellar.

 

[Moonflare]

He could be our true bro if he had complied with the request upon returning Prime

That assumes he could do it, or even that he was the one that did it. It was never certain and now even less so.

On a previous talk, he advises Akira to not open his eyes until it is done. Now, here's my question, if Akira had sex with Maya prior to this wouldn't he have erased himself regardless? As it happened so many times before, according to Maya? So why does a god even have to be involved in this?

It could be that Pareidolia knew it would happen and instead made sure that it would be Maya that would erase herself, rather than erasing Akira. Just after it's done, he muses about who would even take credit for it.

Furthermore, Pareidolia says that anyone that could bring Maya back wasn't there then. Were they sleeping? Did he hit them over the head with a frying pan? Also, if he didn't erase Maya (he only does it from inside Kaori's body), was a god always peotecting Maya from being erased when she had sex with Akira (instead erasing him?).

lots of questions.

 

[Meskal1ne]

On a previous talk, he advises Akira to not open his eyes until it is done. Now, here's my question, if Akira had sex with Maya prior to this wouldn't he have erased himself regardless? As it happened so many times before, according to Maya? So why does a god even have to be involved in this?

We can only make guesses, this theme tied up with speculations and shizotheories. I can build an answer on one of them.

1. Maya is a shrine maiden of an old god (named with letter "T"), and from the very beginning she served her god faithfully.
At some point she falls in love with Akira (who is most likely also part of the dynasty of deities) and stops believing in her god.
The old god dies, since gods in whom people do not believe cannot exist.
2. A bunch of new false gods appear and replace each other. At some point they decide to resurrect the old god, the details are not important now. Some condition must be done for the resurrection of the old god - for example, impregnate everyone or climb to the top of the hill of naked bodies, doesnot matter now.
3. The current iteration of Akira is different from previous ones - and apparently, it is best suited to fulfill this condition.
It is impossible to return Maya back to her god, especially considering the “real sensei”, she will only get in the way.

Accordingly, the easiest way - to erase her.

 

[skwada]

marvel of technical mastery for vn would be ,,out of touch'', perfect pitch would be definitely upgrade compared to lil on technical level but not an insane one, also no amount of technical excellence can compensate writing anyway, If I would want to play games that are better on technical level, I wouldn't be searching them among vn's in first place. but that's just my opinion ofcourse

Lol, Lmao even. We have very different tastes, because in my case I would not recommend "Out of touch" to anyone ever. Not in terms of writing and neither in terms of technical work. It is normal to have very different subjective opinions on games like these, so I think we can leave it at that. I still recommend to try out Perfect Pitch to anyone who wants to try it out and you can recommend "Out of touch" to any people you want, the two of us just wont do such things for our respectively disliked games in this instance

yeah I agree with Noob Gamer, Out of Touch is fairly mid imo in both writing and gameplay: it's too verbose, all the drama feels contrived, and the whole thing seems to be centered around the power of friendship

true, I tried searching for something similar among regular books or other media, but I just cant find anything that satisfies similar itch. like how do you even describe style of lil writing? arthouse?

American Psycho is an excellent novel that scratches the exact same itch Suba Hibi is decent too if you want a VN

I know this question has been asked on this thread a dozen times already, but I haven't seen an answer I actually like yet. Are there any games out there that match this game's quality? It doesn't have to be like LiL plotwise in literally any way. But despite all of his (many) flaws, Selebus clearly puts his soul into this game. There are reveals now that have clearly been planned out for years. And the characters just feel so. so. human. And when I go from LiL to playing literally any other game on this site, they all just feel so bland and one-dimensional in comparison. I just want a game that doesn't feel like an immediate downgrade. Something I can immerse myself in, with characters I'll genuinely care about. Something I'll actually think about after I'm done playing it.

It's going to be a month until the next update, and I really want another game to play while I'm waiting. Anyone have any suggestions?

In terms of VNs, LiL is inspired by Suba Hibi so that's the closest you'll get

Some other recommendations of games that people haven't mentioned, none of these would be on par with actual novels in terms of writing quality but they don't suffer from engrish, are entertaining as hell, and have fleshed-out stories that are not mere excuses for porn (although the games are certainly porn-heavy):
- Eternum: it's about a hyper-realistic VRMMO, really high production quality
- Ripples: imo the best execution of a certain sci-fi subgenre on this site
- Pale Carnations: hard to summarize - just read the synposis. it's S-tier in terms of how realistic the characters feel - they are very fleshed out
- Artemis: hard to explain without spoiling it but it's fantastic the dev clearly puts a ridiculous amount of effort into it

And some games that are just porn-focused fun, no grand plot or anything
- Twisted Memories: a man who lived a pathetic life dies and goes back in time to when he was a teen and maintain/develop the relationships he had neglected when he was younger (aka fucks everyone in a 100km radius xD but it's pretty legit)
- Stormside: you're given a position in a college as being an enforcer of this weird new program, the backstory is pretty dumb but it's basically an excuse to have complete control over the girls and e.g. you get to decide how to punish them, whether you are nice/mean, whether you honor your promises to them, etc. it's got nice branching paths (i.e. meaningful choices) and decent amount of consensual-sex-slave content

 

[Moonflare]

yeah I agree with Noob Gamer, Out of Touch is fairly mid imo in both writing and gameplay: it's too verbose, all the drama feels contrived, and the whole thing seems to be centered around the power of friendship


American Psycho is an excellent novel that scratches the exact same itch Suba Hibi is decent too if you want a VN


In terms of VNs, LiL is inspired by Suba Hibi so that's the closest you'll get

Some other recommendations of games that people haven't mentioned, none of these would be on par with actual novels in terms of writing quality but they don't suffer from engrish, are entertaining as hell, and have fleshed-out stores that are not mere excuses for porn (although the games are porn-heavy for sure):
- Eternum: it's about a hyper-realistic VRMMO, really high production quality
- Ripples: won't spoil the genre but it falls under sci-fi and it's the best execution of that genre on this site imo
- Pale Carnations: hard to summarize - just read the synposis. it's S tier in terms of how realistic the characters feel - they are very fleshed out
- Artemis: hard to explain without spoiling it but it's fantastic the dev clearly puts a ridiculous amount of effort into it

And some games that are just porn-focused fun, no grand plot or anything
- Twisted Memories: a man who lived a pathetic life dies and goes back in time to when he was a teen and builds up the relationships he had neglected when he was younger (aka fucks everyone in a 100km radius xD but it's pretty legit)
- Stormside: you're basically given a position in a college as being an enforcer of this weird new program, the backstory is pretty dumb but it's basically an excuse to have complete control over the girls and e.g. you get to decide how to punish them, whether you are nice/mean, whether you honor your promises to them, etc. it's got nice branching paths (i.e. meaningful choices) and decent amount of consensual-sex-slave content

stormside has one of the hottest sex scenes I've seen in a game, overall a lot of good sex scenes, but the one with the girl addicted to sex while her roomate is at the door is amazing.