Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.44.0] [Selebus]

[Bingoogus]

the idea of ayane finding out her daughter is a literal goddes amuses me lol, and since Himawari is able to play other characters they could really cook something

I still wonder how that might actually go down, see, the current Ayane wasn't the pregnant one, i mean, she is and she isn't, Himawari is her daughter but also kind of not, if we're our memories and experiences than the current version of Ayane has not been pregnant, that Ayane is gone, will she connect with Himawari? Will Himawari connect with her? Imagine if the life you're living right now was started a moment ago, reset back from a year from now where you had a daughter and then that daughter from an alternate future timeline, aged up to an adult, popped in to say hi... "hi, i'm your daughter from an alternate future from your perspective", like, are you going to instantly take it all on board or is she going to feel like some alien foreign person? Even if you did manage to connect with her on some level, do you think she'll ever feel like your daughter? Your daughter? Or is the best you'd manage is to treat her as the daughter of no longer extant alternate version of yourself?

Thing is too, can we meet her before the point where she's supposed to have gotten pregnant by having really high Ayane affection in some scene, implying she's actually from an Ayane pregnancy even further back in the timeloops? And if instead she is the most recent pregnant Ayane's then how come she appears as an adult or near to it?

Questions, questions, questions...

 

[k1n5l4y3r]

Did anyone try to decode the ip address? It might have a clue.
User2 has to be Akira or the password would be different, and since the reset is in summer the wire god wouldn't have enough power to interfere. I think User 3 is the wire god that is why it's connection is rejected, it's indifferent to Akira's request.

 

[fdsasdf_p]

Did anyone try to decode the ip address? It might have a clue.
User2 has to be Akira or the password would be different, and since the reset is in summer the wire god wouldn't have enough power to interfere. I think User 3 is the wire god that is why it's connection is rejected, it's indifferent to Akira's request.

It's the second reset not the first one (the one that jumped straight to a snowy winter) where you get to let USER2 assume control; it asked for your system pwd to make sure you want to do this (you're choosing who you're willing to relinquish control to), so I remain conservative about USER2 = Akira.

TBH there are many occasions where USER2 presence can be seen as an expression of "Sensei trying to get a hold of himself" in a broad and roundabout aspect, like USER2 trying to connect and talk to Sensei is how he talked to himself and regains footing or something.

Miku's One. Two. Three., They're Just Lights (btw this one showed that USER2 doesn't have what's necessary to initiate a reset, at least at the given time), The Room with Clocks, Word of the Day, Trinity Pt3, even Molly's Lavender's Garden sorta counts(?) despite getting wired a shit ton of affection points out of Narnia
(forgive me if some of the events are not correct or I missed some USER2 sightings)

But one scene I couldn't give USER2 = Akira a pass is The Scary Room, where USER2 pranked Maya with a factory reset; not saying other USERS have a sound reason to pull this level of evil prank, but definitely not a reason for Akira.

 

[Pervyfox]

i mostly hang out in the library section of the discord cuz the bots are fun, and its nice to hear wild theories there. it is kinda crazy that they have no puzzle help even in the subscriber section, but the number of people looking for help with noriko's invite questions had me dying laughing too

 

[barglenarglezous]

Thing is too, can we meet her before the point where she's supposed to have gotten pregnant by having really high Ayane affection in some scene, implying she's actually from an Ayane pregnancy even further back in the timeloops? And if instead she is the most recent pregnant Ayane's then how come she appears as an adult or near to it?

Questions, questions, questions...

We can meet her in the first happy scene now. I don't even think her presence in that scene is optional.

She's a paradox at this point, someone who shouldn't exist, but does, and I think it's that paradox that gives her power.

 

[DeSkel15]

But one scene I couldn't give USER2 = Akira a pass is The Scary Room, where USER2 pranked Maya with a factory reset; not saying other USERS have a sound reason to pull this level of evil prank, but definitely not a reason for Akira.

I think that "User2" may have actually been User1 pretending to be User2 in order to scare Maya. I don't think it's been confirmed that other users especially 1 can't pretend to be others.

User1/Nozomu/Sekai also seems to hate Maya, so I can see it going out of it's way just to scare her.

 

[derekthered56]

Soooooooooo fucking accurate. The sheer number of times i've typed just such a post out only to come to my senses after re-reading it before hitting 'post' is beyond count.

Hold on, do you guys all think about what you type before you post?

 

[DeSkel15]

Off topic, but honestly after seeing Miku say this:

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[Kawaiikaze]

I still wonder how that might actually go down, see, the current Ayane wasn't the pregnant one, i mean, she is and she isn't, Himawari is her daughter but also kind of not, if we're our memories and experiences than the current version of Ayane has not been pregnant, that Ayane is gone, will she connect with Himawari? Will Himawari connect with her? Imagine if the life you're living right now was started a moment ago, reset back from a year from now where you had a daughter and then that daughter from an alternate future timeline, aged up to an adult, popped in to say hi... "hi, i'm your daughter from an alternate future from your perspective", like, are you going to instantly take it all on board or is she going to feel like some alien foreign person? Even if you did manage to connect with her on some level, do you think she'll ever feel like your daughter? Your daughter? Or is the best you'd manage is to treat her as the daughter of no longer extant alternate version of yourself?

Thing is too, can we meet her before the point where she's supposed to have gotten pregnant by having really high Ayane affection in some scene, implying she's actually from an Ayane pregnancy even further back in the timeloops? And if instead she is the most recent pregnant Ayane's then how come she appears as an adult or near to it?

Questions, questions, questions...

Tbh ayane has been taking all the reset related things like a champ, so I think she would take it in a very Ayane way, Himawari would receive way too much love. It's impressive how much she grew from pretty much one-sided unconditional love of Sensei, to the point where she is rn, it is not absurd to say that she's the most well written character in the entire game.
Also Daisy existed before we ever impregnated Ayane, like it is safe to say that she's the narrator at the start of the game, and yea there is also a secret event with her during the group study thing I think? If you set ayane's affection to 5000.
But yea if you go down the alternate characters route the rabbit hole gets way too deep, I'd like to believe that in the end they stay the same person and their memories as just as real as what we have seen in game which seems to be what we've been going to lately with all Tsuneyo related things.
Also, isn't it heavily implied that Maya also got reseted and this isn't the "original" one?

 

[Kawaiikaze]

I think that "User2" may have actually been User1 pretending to be User2 in order to scare Maya. I don't think it's been confirmed that other users especially 1 can't pretend to be others.

User1/Nozomu/Sekai also seems to hate Maya, so I can see it going out of it's way just to scare her.

Angels really seem to Nozomu's thing as well, hell the God of Wires can barely keep his ramen afloat and has a pretty shit connection, if he really had angels couldn't he fix that up before going scare some normal teenage girl?

 

[Bingoogus]

Hold on, do you guys all think about what you type before you post?

I dunno what everyone else does, but i gotta really squeeze the brain juice out to not appear as a complete retard half the time, the other half is me just being an idiot thinking i'll be funny if i say random shit like 'Sensei has a very large penis'.

 

[barglenarglezous]

I think that "User2" may have actually been User1 pretending to be User2 in order to scare Maya. I don't think it's been confirmed that other users especially 1 can't pretend to be others.

User1/Nozomu/Sekai also seems to hate Maya, so I can see it going out of it's way just to scare her.

With the revelation that Ami likely knows a lot more than she's let on, we have to open the door to the idea that "USER2" in that scene was AMI fucking with Maya.

 

[Kawaiikaze]

I dunno what everyone else does, but i gotta really squeeze the brain juice out to not appear as a complete retard half the time, the other half is me just being an idiot thinking i'll be funny if i say random shit like 'Sensei has a very large penis'.

As a non native speaker this is pain, I probably spend as much time proofreading to make sure everything is coeherent as I do writing.
Which is funny since I live translate and dub this shit every other day

 

[fdsasdf_p]

Aight a little theorizing for USER4's identity (currently rooting for NaO/ima/今/creepy Ami, or Sekai)

During Ami's second visit to the grave (Outcry of the Hunted Hare to Somnambula), we see Sekai lurking around Ami, then Ami proceeds to blackout when reading Sekai's poem on phone, and goes full apeshit on the bus.

In Somnambula there is a scene where USER1 has trouble connecting (don't remember if there are other instances). According to the text Ami seemed to undergo some transformation as well (tongue oozing out of every pore), but then the process retracked and a thousand eyes opened (something I view as USER1 finally taking back control; the login attempt log is gone as well)

Considering this happens after Ami going over Sekai-related stuff and acting all NaO/ima/今 like on the bus, maybe one of the two entities is something equivalent to a USER that snatches control from USER1 briefly just to say encrypted shit, and the current opening spot is USER4 (it doesn't look like it's something from USER2 or USER3; idk, this event is confusing af).

Also, after looking up what somnambula means, I am quite disappointed to see a bunch of my little pony shit popping up

Edit: Ha! massive misspelling! Thanks Bingoogus

 

[Bingoogus]

Aight a little theorizing for USER4's identity (currently rooting for NaO/ima/今/creepy Ami, or Sekai)

During Ami's second visit to the grave (Outcry of the Hunted Hare to Somnamubla), we see Sekai lurking around Ami, then Ami proceeds to blackout when reading Sekai's poem on phone, and goes full apeshit on the bus.

In Somnamubla there is a scene where USER1 has trouble connecting (don't remember if there are other instances). According to the text Ami seemed to undergo some transformation as well (tongue oozing out of every pore), but then the process retracked and a thousand eyes opened (something I view as USER1 finally taking back control; the login attempt log is gone as well)

Considering this happens after Ami going over Sekai-related stuff and acting all NaO/ima/今 like on the bus, maybe one of the two entities is something equivalent to a USER that snatches control from USER1 briefly just to say encrypted shit, and the current opening spot is USER4 (it doesn't look like it's something from USER2 or USER3; idk, this event is confusing af).

Also, after looking up what somnamubla means, I am quite disappointed to see a bunch of my little pony shit popping up

Not relevant to any of the content in your post but i do find it amusing you managed to misspell somnambula wrong the exact same way every time. Also, it just means sleepwalking.

 

[hario1225]

As a non native speaker this is pain, I probably spend as much time proofreading to make sure everything is coeherent as I do writing.
Which is funny since I live translate and dub this shit every other day

Yeah, I feel you. I actually taught English to Chinese students with my other cousin who also passed the preliminary interview, but I rarely use Big Words cause it's such a chore explaining it to non-native speakers one by one.

I mostly just translate and teach how to form simple sentences and then use them in an actual conversation. I don't have the skill to write tho, my vocabulary is like ape shiet

 

[Kawaiikaze]

Yeah, I feel you. I actually taught English to Chinese students with my other cousin who also passed the preliminary interview, but I rarely use Big Words cause it's such a chore explaining it to non-native speakers one by one.

I mostly just translate and teach how to form simple sentences and then use them in an actual conversation. I don't have the skill to write tho, my vocabulary is like ape shiet

I can imagine that teaching a language to someone who never had any experience with it could be a pain.
I just learn it all by myself by throwing my head at a wall of text or listening to something until I could properly understand words and shit, so while I can both hear and read perfectly, sometimes even speak, I've no sense of grammar to save my life

 

[Kawaiikaze]

Also, after looking up what somnambula means, I am quite disappointed to see a bunch of my little pony shit popping up

Hey for all we know Sel could very well be into that

 

[FireCazador]

Im curious what are you callin NaO. I saw calling that to Ami or some version of Ami but why are you calling her that? (and what exactly are you talking about)

 

[DeSkel15]

Angels really seem to Nozomu's thing as well, hell the God of Wires can barely keep his ramen afloat and has a pretty shit connection, if he really had angels couldn't he fix that up before going scare some normal teenage girl?

Yeah, I'm pretty sure Angels are just User1/Nozomu's thing. Same with most of the weird stuff that shows up. Birds, resets, glitches, and trees on the other hand, seem to be related to the god of wires.

With the revelation that Ami likely knows a lot more than she's let on, we have to open the door to the idea that "USER2" in that scene was AMI fucking with Maya.

Possibly, but I doubt that it's something Ami would come up with, and it didn't seem like Ami had seen Maya as a threat yet. I do think that Angel Sekai has been trying to influence Ami though, and she may have caused Ami to do this without her being aware. Possessing and using people seems to be something Sekai likes to do.