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I'm not... I just feel like I have missed a significant part of a game... or I am just not understanding something...
Also... doesn't Akira do that to pretty much everyone?
I'm really confused because you claim you are up to date but there's a lot of Common knowledge that you should know even if you held CTRL for most of the game.
Are you sure you actually played to the end of last patch?
 

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Wizard is basically this community's codename for Loli

And by Loli, we explicitly mean the girls even younger than the students, Aka Tsukasa, Chinami and Nao.

This term has gained popularity because Chinami introduced herself as a 5000 year old Wizard which is funny in itself, and it's probably a subliminal joke that many people missed about Lolis in anime being 302484 years old despite looking very young.
Wizard is also a more "politically correct" way to call these "young" characters Loli. Not sure if the term politically correct is the best way to definite it but yeah there you go basically Wizards are cunny loli here
I was on the right track. That is where I was going with it and assumed that's the joke. I have to wonder if with all the time skips and plot progression if Selebus is gonna do something to age them forward like how Maya/Noriko/Niki all did though from a point we never "saw" beyond flashbacks.

Some of the, uh, commentary that gets made towards Tsukasa is rather...eyebrow raising at times lmao.
 

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I think I might be the world's last Otoha fan lol. I don't like how long the plot stalled around her and Rin's relationship, but I still mostly like her as a character. Her chemistry with Akira above all is really enjoyable, like a mix of early Rin and Maya if that makes any sense, and at this point I'm a bit more interested with where the plot is heading with her than a lot of other characters currently, but that's probably because she recently got some new plot threads. I think she's up there with Uta on the "I wanna see where this is going" scale.
Also I was pretty into the cuck scene honestly. I like her design quite a bit, especially when she has her hair down, and have a weird thing for fully clothed masturbation. So that probably helped my impression a bit.
Big Sis Otoha is growing on me. Pre Chapter 4 Otoha was boring, imo.

Although, I'm also beginning to wonder if Otoha may be Pareidolia's target at some point. She's one of the few girls who would probably fit the "deserve" it criteria, that Pareidolia is presumably aiming for.
 

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Lavender's Green (Molly) and Paranoid (Karin) are the most uncomfortable moments in this game and make me sad - and wanna bitchslap Akira a few times at the least.
I'd add 'This Town Has Two Halves' (Yumi):
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And probably 'Scaredy Cat' (Miku) and '1999 PC Classic, Rollercoaster Tycoon' (Io):
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To a list of times that Sensei went too far.
 

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I'd add 'This Town Has Two Halves' (Yumi):
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And probably 'Scaredy Cat' (Miku) and '1999 PC Classic, Rollercoaster Tycoon' (Io):
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To a list of times that Sensei went too far.
Two moments that stick out for me that turned out to be not so bad but had me afraid to continue were the countdown just before SeKaori kissed Akira and the event where Molly was coming onto Akira and the only option given was "r*pe her". Both times I went cold and was afraid to click the screen.
 

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Two moments that stick out for me that turned out to be not so bad but had me afraid to continue were the countdown just before SeKaori kissed Akira and the event where Molly was coming onto Akira and the only option given was "r*pe her". Both times I went cold and was afraid to click the screen.
There's definitely a lot of moments in the game where a player is meant to be scared to continue...yet we do.

Like Maya's scary room is one that comes to mind for me. I was starting to like Maya then it's like "FACTORY RESET IN 10...9...8...7..."...."-1....WATERMELON"...

My thought process at the time: "This muthafucka..."

Edit: When it comes to scaring the player, I think Sel may have peaked at 'The Scary Room':
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That one was good. Unless one didn't give a shit about Maya I guess.
 
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I mean, I do too, but I'm kind of a:
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Kind of person.
I am not exactly this type of person, I really hate it when people suffer and I am absolutely disgusted by incest, grape, pdf.files and other stuff, in real life im extremely vanilla but when it comes to fiction for some reason I love everything Akira does including wizards and him forcing himself onto girls, I don't understand why.
Maybe because I know it's not real and I just want to see more since nobody is getting hurt, but it still feels weird liking all of this, in fact I want Akira, the gods, or whoever it is to just DOUBLE DOWN
 

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Two moments that stick out for me that turned out to be not so bad but had me afraid to continue were the countdown just before SeKaori kissed Akira and the event where Molly was coming onto Akira and the only option given was "r*pe her". Both times I went cold and was afraid to click the screen.
Interesting choice of wording re: Kaori's name - did you spot something I missed re: her cause I'm still trying to unravel what the hell is going on with her - even if I love her and all her craziness.

Here's the one that fucking scared me for a few moments:


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I am not exactly this type of person, I really hate it when people suffer and I am absolutely disgusted by incest, grape, pdf.files and other stuff, in real life im extremely vanilla but when it comes to fiction for some reason I love everything Akira does including wizards and him forcing himself onto girls, I don't understand why.
Maybe because I know it's not real and I just want to see more since nobody is getting hurt, but it still feels weird liking all of this, in fact I want Akira, the gods, or whoever it is to just DOUBLE DOWN

So, I'm the same but I think for me why this works despite certain parts of the story that absolutely fuck with my head is that I feel like there's this glimmering thread of how Akira seems to become more self aware and wrestle with the demons. Granted it's still a goddamn smut game end of the day and we all want our favorite scenes with our favorite girls but there's this character progression that's fairly unmatched in this game where both Akira and those he interacts with move forward, not always gracefully, to something more.
 

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Big Sis Otoha is growing on me. Pre Chapter 4 Otoha was boring, imo.
I agree and I think the main problem with Otoha (regarding her public image to the readers) was that her development was not guided by Akira during her relationship with Rin.

We see a lot of characters do some fucked up shit, but all of these things either benefit Akira or they discuss it with him/he's an active part of the process (Nodoka's the biggest example).

Otoha just went on a tangent in which she positioned herself outside his influence or even against Akira in a way. She assaults Niki more or less in a moment in which Akira is coming to terms with loving her, then she drops that info on him out of nowhere and in a way that he can't even react to it properly cause she's a coward and doesn't come clean.

Then there's the issue with Rin, since she isn't just cheating, but she puts him in a position of knowing about it for no real reason (when Rin can be one of his most wholesome relationships).

I don't think Akira really minds her cheating, or assaulting Niki, that much to be honest. But I think that because her relationship with him didn't allow for there to be scenes about these things way early that addressed him being okay with it, it created an unnecessary hatred from me as a reader that went on in the background far too long (before he kinda goes with a "meh it's whatever" attitude in recent updates).

Anyway, there are a lot of shitty individuals in this game, but I don't think there's one other than Otoha whose actions didn't benefit Akira (or were meant to benefit him) for so long - nevermind involving genuinely good people, like the love of his life and his little perverted sister behind his back - but hey, maybe when all of this is justified by her creating a hole for herself in which she finally lets him get her ass, I'll feel okay about it.

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Man I don't like Otoha ONLY because she broke Rin's heart and she's bae, but some of you guys here take it to the next level.
She's just a dumb teenager controlled by her hormones, chill out.
Also, I don't want to actually see her die in a fire, that's a figure of speech. What I want to see is her screaming that she'd rather have his cock than Niki while orgasming, cause that's the power-fantasy right there (similar to what I want to see happening with Wakana). As for the character of Otoha, I have no idea how could she even grow from this other than becoming truly perverted. She doesn't have any real problems to deal with and the parent angle was abandoned a million years ago.
 
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Interesting choice of wording re: Kaori's name - did you spot something I missed re: her cause I'm still trying to unravel what the hell is going on with her - even if I love her and all her craziness.

Here's the one that fucking scared me for a few moments:


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So, I'm the same but I think for me why this works despite certain parts of the story that absolutely fuck with my head is that I feel like there's this glimmering thread of how Akira seems to become more self aware and wrestle with the demons. Granted it's still a goddamn smut game end of the day and we all want our favorite scenes with our favorite girls but there's this character progression that's fairly unmatched in this game where both Akira and those he interacts with move forward, not always gracefully, to something more.
The most terrifying thing for me regarding Tsukasa is that (for the moment) it really is your choice. It's like the game's saying to you that you don't get to claim neutrality in this, the choice was not made for you, you are now a part of this.

As for the game in general I agree, and I feel like LiL reads like you're with this character that's a recovering drug-addict, and every step forward is followed by a thousand steps sideways. But Akira is aware of what he is, we have enough of justification from his past and supernatural elements to not abandon him completely, and he is going somewhere. As for the other characters, well most of them have somewhat wholesome arcs of growth.
 

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I agree and I think the main problem with Otoha (regarding her public image to the readers) was that her development was not guided by Akira during her relationship with Rin.

We see a lot of characters do some fucked up shit, but all of these things either benefit Akira or they discuss it with him/he's an active part of the process (Nodoka's the biggest example).

Otoha just went on a tangent in which she positioned herself outside his influence or even against Akira in a way. She assaults Niki more or less in a moment in which Akira is coming to terms with loving her, then she drops that info on him out of nowhere and in a way that he can't even react to it properly cause she's a coward and doesn't come clean.

Then there's the issue with Rin, since she isn't just cheating, but she puts him in a position of knowing about it for no real reason (when Rin can be one of his most wholesome relationships).

I don't think Akira really minds her cheating, or assaulting Niki, that much to be honest. But I think that because her relationship with him didn't allow for there to be scenes about these things way early that addressed him being okay with it, it created an unnecessary hatred from me as a reader that went on in the background far too long.

Anyway, there are a lot of shitty individuals in this game, but I don't think there's one other than Otoha whose actions didn't benefit Akira (or were meant to benefit him) for so long - nevermind involving genuinely good people, like the love of his life and his little perverted sister behind his back - but hey, maybe when all of this is justified by her creating a hole for herself in which she finally lets him get her ass, I'll feel okay about it.
Personally, I just don't really think Otoha was sold well (I'd assume intentionally). She's so cool, look at her rings, she's so creative, watch her smack Rin in a manic episode, she's so popular, watch everyone fawn over the prince while Chika wins the popularity contest. Etc.

Otoha is kind of like a bad joke, that's finally getting a laugh out of me, as she descends deeper into delightful depravity:
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I'm starting to get interested.

Edit: Ironically, Otoha also seemed billed as the "normal" girl, but frankly, to me, Yumi is far more normal.
 
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