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You guessed it, it's time Moonflare ranted on why Himawari's name is Ami again. This will be kinda short (I tried guys) since it's just a new piece of information to add to the rest (there is a second one at the end though).

Okay so, basically, Himawari tells Akira to name her after his favorite flower. The obvious take from this is to guess that she's telling him to call her by the nickname "sunflower". Well, what she could actually be telling him is to call her Ami, since red hair Ami is his original sunflower, here's the evidence:

First Himawari tells him to call her after his favorite flower.
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Then we have confirmation she is his little sunflower.
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Well, Ami is also his sunflower.
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Sunflower dress from Sekai.
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Now that we have established that both function as sunflowers, let's see them intersect. First of all, what is it the Akira has in his pocket? Well, it's a picture of Ami.
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And do you know what else Akira has in his pocket? After their encounter at the church of New HOPE, in which there is the quiz, Himawari is the narrator outside of it. This bit establishes that it's her:
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Let's sum up, Himawari is a sunflower. Ami is also a sunflower. Akira carries a photo of Ami in his pocket. Himawari puts a photo of a sunflower in his pocket. When Akira asks what name he should give her, she says "name me after your favorite flower" - Ami is his favorite flower. Himawari wasn't telling him the secret of her nickname, she was telling him in a roundabout way what her actual name is. Again, alone, that might be stretching it but it's another thing on a huge pile of evidence.

And the other reason I thought to bring this up is that there is a dark undertone to Himawari being called Ami, and that is the possibility that Ami Arakawa dies at some point. It would be strange for Akira to have two daughters with the same name, or for them both to serve as his emotional support. Not impossible, but weird. If first Ami died though, it would make even more sense for them to honor her memory by giving their baby daughter her name. It would also explain Ami's obsession with asking people if they love Akira enough to die for him (cause she probably did).

Oh, and this is a minor thing, but I'm also adding it to the pile. Himawari is rambling on about stuff, and Ayane calls "Ami", to which she answers by shutting her mouth since her mother is calling her (and her big sister).
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My initial post on the topic:
I think I found another strong piece of evidence regarding Himawari's name. Makoto's "Parallelogram" (in her room after her dad's death) opens with some narration that is almost certainly Himawari: there's a dad & daughter theme, she says "you" (i.e. Akira) had a hand much bigger than her mother's, and she gives a metaphor about how the actions of that hand created a sprouting sunflower that she identifies with herself. Here's the full passage, but the important bit is at the end:
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The key line is "it is for that reason that I call myself what I do today", referring to the sunflower that is her. Here's what I get from this:
  • Himawari does actually go by a sunflower-related name, probably Himawari given the connection to HimawariCo.
  • That name is what she chooses to call herself today. She didn't always go by that name, and it's not the name that was given to her at birth.
Of course there could be many reasons why she chooses not to use her birth name and go by a nickname instead, but trying to avoid confusion with her identically named half-sister Ami Arakawa would be an awfully good one.
 

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I think I found another strong piece of evidence regarding Himawari's name. Makoto's "Parallelogram" (in her room after her dad's death) opens with some narration that is almost certainly Himawari: there's a dad & daughter theme, she says "you" (i.e. Akira) had a hand much bigger than her mother's, and she gives a metaphor about how the actions of that hand created a sprouting sunflower that she identifies with herself. Here's the full passage, but the important bit is at the end:
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The key line is "it is for that reason that I call myself what I do today", referring to the sunflower that is her. Here's what I get from this:
  • Himawari does actually go by a sunflower-related name, probably Himawari given the connection to HimawariCo.
  • That name is what she chooses to call herself today. She didn't always go by that name, and it's not the name that was given to her at birth.
Of course there could be many reasons why she chooses not to use her birth name and go by a nickname instead, but trying to avoid confusion with her identically named half-sister Ami Arakawa would be an awfully good one.
Or the contract that she signed prohibits her from actually using her name or/and being able to influence the events of the story(Hence why she cant just help Akira and chooses to be discreet by helping Ayane)
 
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Bro is trying really hard to not avoid the fed allegations huh
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Milk enema is a thing
That. Is the forbidden knowledge now.
My grandma used to get coffee enemas, apparently those are a thing, too. My mom decided to tell me that for some reason. I've decided to tell you, now. You're welcome
 
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OK, I appear to be being a bit thick today. Regarding disabling the DRM can anyone clarify which of the links on the OP goes to the latest file needed for ver 0.41. I've looked at both and neither post seems to have been edited since April. I had freshly installed ver 0.41 as I had missed everything since 0.35 and would just like to put everything back where I had it.
 
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One question, has Selly given up on doing happy events? It makes a lot of updates that we don't have one.
It's interesting. We've seen glimpses to weird realms in events like Norikos from the previous update, but nothing specific to happy events. Maybe because it's spring? Were happy events generally related to HOPE?
 

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Monkey's paw is interesting. Whose wish will bring about disaster?

As for albatross...

"Albatross. Guardian. Aluminum. Iodine. Nylon. Severance. Happenstance. Entry. Lovers. Incest. Virtual. Emaciated. Sadness. The answer you seek is hope."
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Monkey's paw is interesting. Whose wish will bring about disaster?
For me I'm gonna be believing that it's Ami after Kaori's ll Cervo event and the theories about the part that wishing something will need something equivalent and that the moon refers to Sekai. Which ya know, it sounds like gold stars is a monkey paw but balancing instead of hellish consequences (maybe depending on wish ofc) if I remember what a monkey paw is correctly.
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One question, has Selly given up on doing happy events? It makes a lot of updates that we don't have one.
It's interesting. We've seen glimpses to weird realms in events like Norikos from the previous update, but nothing specific to happy events. Maybe because it's spring? Were happy events generally related to HOPE?
It may be irrelevant, but besides it being Spring, Pareidolia being connected to Sensei, USER2's recent return, the Egg Time with Nao-chan, and HOPE/Yasu's god being MIA, the Mall is also still being renovated.

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It's difficult to tell why there hasn't been a Happy Event in Chapter 4, but there's plenty of other things going on, and I'm not entirely sure of the purpose of Happy Events in the first place, besides lore, and maybe to influence Sensei, who's kind of just being influenced by Pareidolia, directly, now.

Maya Prime is also gone, so that may be relevant since there hasn't been one since. The "love story" being over, Sensei being the "former hero", Ami breaking, and the Shapeshifter/Himawari being somewhat missing since the Ami clones which may have appeared in the last Happy Event, may also play a factor.

For me I'm gonna be believing that it's Ami after Kaori's ll Cervo event and the theories about the part that wishing something will need something equivalent and that the moon refers to Sekai. Which ya know, it sounds like gold stars is a monkey paw but balancing instead of hellish consequences (maybe depending on wish ofc) if I remember what a monkey paw is correctly.
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That reminded me that Kaori's 'Il Cervo' Chapter 4 Event is definitely under-theorized about.

From Sensei mentioning Whales, and Cores, Ami mentioning the Moon, Deer Parts, and seemingly commanding Sensei to sit, then Kaori mentioning Wishes, Gold Stars, Faceless Elves, The Moon being in the Large Whale, and them all making a Nuclear Family, etc.

So much to wonder about.

In theory: It seems to imply that Ami plans to resurrect her mother (moon) through the memories of Sensei or whoever (whales and memories are a thing) since the moon is in the whale, but that's probably a little out there.

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Considering that Sel sees Ayane like a daughter:
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I have some questions, lmao.
 

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So I'm doing a speedrun through the game because I accidentally overwrote my save like the moron I am and I want to get caught up before the next update drops, and I hit this panel because, let's be honest, I'm gonna read the Yumi scenes every time because vulgar brunettes with nice racks just have that impact on me, especially when they spiral, but I'm digressing.

So I hit this panel and I'm like "I've heard this before." Okay, without the swearing, but I know this line has been pretty common in the game, but I can't remember all the contexts. I know Fishbowl Ami had a moment where this line played in audio, but there have to be others considering how much this line stood out.

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