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There are two scenes that play if Ayane's affection is high enough. The first one is "scientific research" a main event in chapter 1. Akira goes to the beach and can spend time with Chika, Yumi or Chinami (or Himawari, if Ayane's affection is high enough).

You can only get this one through cheating though, and you'll get a cheater flag for it.

The second one is during the "miserably ever after" main event in chapter 4, where you can choose a 4th song if Ayane's affection is high enough, the songs starts playing a bit later. This doesn't give you a cheater flag, and it's one of the reasons people assume the narrator for the event is Himawari.

What has been said about the Sana scene at the beach is not based in Ayane's affection, but if you're having sex with Sara (iirc). It's either "ad meliora" or "ad infinitum".

If you view either event on replay and have URM, just choose the option when it pops up, there's no need to manually trigger either of the events. You will have to manually trigger "flowerchild" if you want to see Himawari at the end again, so the manually triggering is true for some cases, just not these ones.
Oh geez, I had the wrong beach event. That's my cue to take a nap.
 

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There are two scenes that play if Ayane's affection is high enough. The first one is "scientific research" a main event in chapter 1. Akira goes to the beach and can spend time with Chika, Yumi or Chinami (or Himawari, if Ayane's affection is high enough).

You can only get this one through cheating though, and you'll get a cheater flag for it.

The second one is during the "miserably ever after" main event in chapter 4, where you can choose a 4th song if Ayane's affection is high enough, the songs starts playing a bit later. This doesn't give you a cheater flag, and it's one of the reasons people assume the narrator for the event is Himawari.

What has been said about the Sana scene at the beach is not based in Ayane's affection, but if you're having sex with Sara (iirc). It's either "ad meliora" or "ad infinitum".

If you view either event on replay and have URM, just choose the option when it pops up, there's no need to manually trigger either of the events. You will have to manually trigger "flowerchild" if you want to see Himawari at the end again, so the manually triggering is true for some cases, just not these ones.
Who's that Shiori that Himawari mentions? The name doesn't ring a bell
 

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Yep, they're about to break up or already have. My take is different from them being teenagers actually. This seems to me like they're on university, because, if you recall, Osako was never into poetry and yet had Wakana's favorite poem memorised in order to confess her feelings. Also, they're not wearing a uniform, and people wear uniforms to highschool in Japan.

What we're seeing is most likely the beginning of their relationship, it makes a lot of sense for either of them to tell us about how it started when crying to Akira about its current state, and how it just isn't the same anymore (or it has already ended).
 
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Who's that Shiori that Himawari mentions? The name doesn't ring a bell
Shiori is how Nodoka calls herself when she's in her manic state (she says it's her evil twin) - I don't recall the event but it's when she's talking to Otoha in her bedroom. It's the same event in which she calls out Otoha for knowing who "the girl who cannot breathe" is as well (which is again confirmed in the last update - although she could be taking about Niki who knows).

Himawari does not recognize (at least she doesn't admit it) Nodoka as Shiori though (she talks about Nodoka in "beyond the reach of god" - which is Himawari's first unmissable appearance).
 

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Yep, they're about to break up or already have. My take is different from them being teenagers actually. This seems to me like they're on university, because, if you recall, Osako was never into poetry and yet had Wakana's favorite poem decorated in order to confess her feelings. Also, they're not wearing an uniform, and people wear uniforms to highschool in Japan.
Yea, that was my first thought about seeing their past like this, because I remember them talking about how they meet in university but I doubt they'll immediately break up, maybe on the verge and waiting for one single event for things to crumble imo, but we'll have to wait until 0.43 to see what's the current situation with them.
 
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DyonisXX

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Shiori is how Nodoka calls herself when she's in her manic state (she says it's her evil twin) - I don't recall the event but it's when she's talking to Otoha in her bedroom. It's the same event in which she calls out Otoha for knowing who "the girl who cannot breathe" is as well (which is again confirmed in the last update - although she could be taking about Niki who knows).

Himawari does not recognize (at least she doesn't admit it) Nodoka as Shiori though (she talks about Nodoka in "beyond the reach of god" - which is Himawari's first unmissable appearance).
While at it, who the hell are those 2 obscure girls that show up sometimes in happy events? Tsurumi and the other one
 

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While at it, who the hell are those 2 obscure girls that show up sometimes in happy events? Tsurumi and the other one
Tsurumi is a character from the previous (unfinished game), I don't know who you mean as the other one.

Is it one of the hexadecimal girls or Himawari?

Edit: If it's Saki, she's also from the previous game, and Akira's mother.
 
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Moyo talking normally is the most cursed thing I've ever seen in this game
The entire sequence in the red room is pulled from Twin Peaks, and the audio in that scene was cursed as hell. Laura Palmer and the dwarf both recorded their lines backwards, the audio got played in reverse, and they had to lip-sync to it.

David Lynch, man. David Lynch. - me, in film school
 

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Tsurumi is a character from the previous (unfinished game), I don't know who you mean as the other one.

Is it one of the hexadecimal girls or Himawari?

Edit: If it's Saki, she's also from the previous game, and Akira's mother.
No I remember there was some other girl with Tsurumi I legit can't remember what she looked like but if you'd describe Tsurumi as blue then the other girl was like.. red?

I remember she was alongside Tsurumi when she first appeared but she wasn't in the other event with Tsurumi in it, but holy shit it would be like finding a needle in a haystack trying to find the render in my saves
 
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No I remember there was some other girl with Tsurumi I legit can't remember what she looked like but if you'd describe Tsurumi as blue then the other girl was like.. red?

I remember she was alongside Tsurumi when she first appeared but she wasn't in the other event with Tsurumi in it, but holy shit it would be like finding a needle in a haystack trying to find the render in my saves
Oh, it's another character from the previous game. Either Miu or Reina, I can't ever recall their names. The red headed one could be Sekai's mother (a wild guess for now).

I think they show up during "rain king".
 

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No I remember there was some other girl with Tsurumi I legit can't remember what she looked like but if you'd describe Tsurumi as blue then the other girl was like.. red?

I remember she was alongside Tsurumi when she first appeared but she wasn't in the other event with Tsurumi in it, but holy shit it would be like finding a needle in a haystack trying to find the render in my saves
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Tsurumi and Kanon are from 'Grow Old. Then Die.' Which seemed to be a side project set in the Multiverse, that never happened, which would have had Kanon (who didn't have this name) as the MC's Sister:
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Tsurumi would have likely been a Love Interest for the MC.

On the other hand, the glitched out character is Saki from 'Nothing is Beautiful', along with Miu; the red head with twin tails and blue eyes, and Yuu, who's point of view we have during that event. Saki seems likely to be Sensei's/Akira's (MC of 'Lessons in Love') mother, and Ami's grandma. Yuu is heavily implied to be Sensei's father, and Ami's grandpa.

In theory: Kanon and her brother may have been intended to be Sensei's kids (Cycle continues, etc), but there's nothing that confirms this.
 

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Kanon:
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Tsurumi and Kanon are from 'Grow Old. Then Die.' Which seemed to be a side project set in the Multiverse, that never happened, which would have had Kanon (who didn't have this name) as the MC's Sister:
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Tsurumi would have likely been a Love Interest for the MC.

On the other hand, the glitched out character is Saki from 'Nothing is Beautiful', along with Miu; the red head with twin tails and blue eyes, and Yuu, who's point of view we have during that event. Saki seems likely to be Sensei's/Akira's (MC of 'Lessons in Love') mother, and Ami's grandma. Yuu is heavily implied to be Sensei's father, and Ami's grandpa.

In theory: Kanon and her brother may have been intended to be Sensei's kids, (Cycle continues, etc) but there's nothing that confirms this.
Good opportunity to ask, what is up with the piece of meat? I never got it.
 

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Pretty sure there's no cheater variable involved in "Scientific Research" aka day79

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If you can confirm that no such thing exists anymore on files that'd be great (we should also change the wiki if that's the case).
 
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