Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.44.0] [Selebus]

[Leecher97]

No, you can get them both.

Ok, so I'm questioning my sanity now. I definitely got Fixing Pipes last night but upon checking it's saying I've got Bad Kitty.

 

[~J&F~]

I'd love seeing some fan art for Lessons in Love

I have finished making one Fanart! I drew Ayane (although not sure it looks like Ayane)

 

[alex2011]

Honestly i would worry more about Ami than Noriko, Noriko wears her crazy way more openly than Ami. Not saying she aint cause yea she definitely is, but she has shown a willingness to share such as with with Kirin as long feeling aren't involved, where as Ami has been downright hostile to any potential competition.

As to the Harem thing, I am kind of anti-social to begin with so that does not really appeal to me. Plus trying to maintain that many relationships would be way too much work for me, especially with the myriad of issues these girls have. Of course that assuming any of em are even real to begin with.

Not really, Ami has shown herself to be unstable, but not to the extent that Noriko has and it happened much faster with Noriko. Noriko being more open about it does give us some warning, especially since only the player seems to realize Ami is unstable and player Sensei does not, but her instability isn't as close to the point of boiling over. Noriko seems like one wrong move is an instant snap. Kirin is literally the only girl where feelings aren't involved, at least supposedly, so Noriko is a much bigger threat because literally the only girl safe from her finding out is Kirin. Anyone else could and probably would start a bloodbath if she found out. Though I do have to admit it would be interesting to see what happens if Ami is caught by her. It's already a compromising situation with it being both an internal family and teacher/student sexual relationship, both very big no nos even in Japan except a select few blood relations and teacher/student is definitely out completely. If a true psycho like Noriko catches them, and yes, feelings are involved in that relationship, there would be total war between those two.

As for the harem, I am very much the opposite. I tend to hide my emotions behind a somewhat emotionless facade, kind of like a kuudere, but I am not antisocial at all. It mainly appeals to me because I really want to make every girl in this particular cast of characters happy, or at least as happy as I can. That's the appeal of the game, its writing pulls the player into an emotional roller coaster and lets go about as well as a true, murder happy yandere, which is to say not at all.

What you have to understand is that financial institutions try to stay away from "taboo" or "immoral" things, as there are hundreds if not thousands of 'busybodies' in this country that want nothing more than to eliminate everything that doesn't fit their ideological dogma.

If they found out that any bank/creditor is handling transactions for an organization that allows people to create (and post for consumption) certain kinds of 'illegal' pornographic material (whether it's fictitious or not doesn't matter to them), they will screech, whine and berate any and every politician that said financial institution is "engaging in illegal and immoral activity", "putting children in danger", "giving safe haven to pedophiles", etc.

No one wants to deal with that epic avalanche of bullshit.

The bank I use, which is fairly large in the Southeastern and Midwestern US would actually block using accounts and cards from subscribing to any online adult content provider. You could easily subscribe to Playboy, Penthouse and Hustler with no questions asked, though.

Wanna know how annoying these people are? This is a law in my home state:

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I am well aware of what financial institutions do and they are within their right to do that, however, they do risk the consequences by doing so. Not everyone is just going to take crap like banning content types lying down and even those that do won't take it forever. There is always a breaking point and that point is when the strain of banning too much causes the users to jump ship. It is already happening with Patreon at a trickle, but if they go much further, that trickle will become a mighty flood. The "epic avalanche of bullshit" cannot outweigh the lack of profit coming into the company caused by listening to the "epic avalanche of bullshit" in the first place. There will come a time when it will be financially unfeasible to do so. For Patreon's sake, they better hope they make that realization before all their users jump ship.

As for the bank thing, that's why I use a service that acts as a middleman for my card, that and security. It's basically a PayPal type service. The bank only sees a payment to the service, they would actually have to trace the payment by contacting said service and getting the direct record of where the money went.

Also, someone should look into that law, it is bordering on infringement of the first amendment and, with the right judge and/or justice depending on how far the case goes, it could be overturned as unconstitutional since fiction is protected. I'm not saying it actually is unconstitutional, I'm just saying putting it through the right courts might get results against it.

Yea the system is so fucked up here in the States (other places as well i am) and i find most abhorrent when dealing with stuff like this where there are no actual living humans being depicted. Apparently we may to make sure the pixels are protected as well /eyeroll. There are a several tags that will give me pause on this site (Rape, Beastiality, BDSM stuff, etc) but there is only 1 i will flat refuse to play the game if i see it and that is censorship.

And that law you linked just screams Bible Belt lol and was likely endorsed by many who have been shown to have actually raped young children. Its sad really

None of the tags give me pause since no real people are involved, except censorship, kinetic novel, and real porn. I tend to dislike western live action porn and that means pictures as well, but JAV is a different story, especially the underground stuff that somehow escapes getting censored before distribution or the stuff that gets uncensored by a third party. In fact, the tags you listed, rape and bestiality in particular, I tend to enjoy in any form as long as it is acted or otherwise not real.

Anime lolis are bad!

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(Totally sound bank logic /s)

All these porn censorship laws are just racism and discrimination bundled under false justice. But the world's gradually becoming a better place; I bet our grandchildren will live in a sexually liberated era

If they themselves are liberated, that is. The thing is the people who screech about drawings and 3D renders tend to either look the other way or are actively involved when real people are in danger.

I have finished making one Fanart! I drew Ayane (although not sure it looks like Ayane)

That's...that's actually pretty freaking great, well done. I do see a major resemblance to the character, in fact, after pulling up one of her sprite images from my game folder, you nailed her appearance. A LITTLE dark on the eyes, hers are a bit more pale and have a lightening effect as you go down toward the bottom of the iris, or whatever the colored part is called, I forgot, but you were pretty much spot on with your work.

 

[~J&F~]

That's...that's actually pretty freaking great, well done. I do see a major resemblance to the character, in fact, after pulling up one of her sprite images from my game folder, you nailed her appearance. A LITTLE dark on the eyes, hers are a bit more pale and have a lightening effect as you go down toward the bottom of the iris, or whatever the colored part is called, I forgot, but you were pretty much spot on with your work.

Thanks XD, I wasn't sure it looked good before, but seeing your response I got really motivated

 

[JMccovery]

Also, someone should look into that law, it is bordering on infringement of the first amendment and, with the right judge and/or justice depending on how far the case goes, it could be overturned as unconstitutional since fiction is protected. I'm not saying it actually is unconstitutional, I'm just saying putting it through the right courts might get results against it.

Yeah... That's been tried before:

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[alex2011]

Yeah... That's been tried before:

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Damn, well, if at first you don't succeed. The entire court system and the supreme court in particular have had multiple cases come back repeatedly and some with a different result depending on exactly who hears the case, so they could always try again.

 

[barglenarglezous]

Damn, well, if at first you don't succeed. The entire court system and the supreme court in particular have had multiple cases come back repeatedly and some with a different result depending on exactly who hears the case, so they could always try again.

The current composition of the Supreme Court won't overturn that particular ruling. Short of the court being expanded to add a liberal majority (which has been discussed, but will likely get stymied by a holdout Senator or two), that's not changing for a long time.

 

[alex2011]

The current composition of the Supreme Court won't overturn that particular ruling. Short of the court being expanded to add a liberal majority (which has been discussed, but will likely get stymied by a holdout Senator or two), that's not changing for a long time.

Doesn't have to be that court, the process starts all over anyway, so they would go through lower courts to get back to the supreme court. There are lower court judges who would possibly overturn the law.

 

[crustlord12]

I do not like Noriko. Gives me a bad vibe. Which to me, means the character has been well written. I like that I don't like her.

This game occupies way too much of my brain's idle processing, I love it.

 

[NEWtimmer]

I do not like Noriko. Gives me a bad vibe. Which to me, means the character has been well written. I like that I don't like her.

This game occupies way too much of my brain's idle processing, I love it.

There's love and there's dis-love,
or something.





This is great I don't know she's able to keep that posture in an anger mood, but it looks so great.

 

[jesusjackct]

I have finished making one Fanart! I drew Ayane (although not sure it looks like Ayane)

Dude, this is perfection.

 

[Maethir]

Not really, Ami has shown herself to be unstable, but not to the extent that Noriko has and it happened much faster with Noriko. Noriko being more open about it does give us some warning, especially since only the player seems to realize Ami is unstable and player Sensei does not, but her instability isn't as close to the point of boiling over. Noriko seems like one wrong move is an instant snap. Kirin is literally the only girl where feelings aren't involved, at least supposedly, so Noriko is a much bigger threat because literally the only girl safe from her finding out is Kirin. Anyone else could and probably would start a bloodbath if she found out. Though I do have to admit it would be interesting to see what happens if Ami is caught by her. It's already a compromising situation with it being both an internal family and teacher/student sexual relationship, both very big no nos even in Japan except a select few blood relations and teacher/student is definitely out completely. If a true psycho like Noriko catches them, and yes, feelings are involved in that relationship, there would be total war between those two.

As for the harem, I am very much the opposite. I tend to hide my emotions behind a somewhat emotionless facade, kind of like a kuudere, but I am not antisocial at all. It mainly appeals to me because I really want to make every girl in this particular cast of characters happy, or at least as happy as I can. That's the appeal of the game, its writing pulls the player into an emotional roller coaster and lets go about as well as a true, murder happy yandere, which is to say not at all.


I am well aware of what financial institutions do and they are within their right to do that, however, they do risk the consequences by doing so. Not everyone is just going to take crap like banning content types lying down and even those that do won't take it forever. There is always a breaking point and that point is when the strain of banning too much causes the users to jump ship. It is already happening with Patreon at a trickle, but if they go much further, that trickle will become a mighty flood. The "epic avalanche of bullshit" cannot outweigh the lack of profit coming into the company caused by listening to the "epic avalanche of bullshit" in the first place. There will come a time when it will be financially unfeasible to do so. For Patreon's sake, they better hope they make that realization before all their users jump ship.

As for the bank thing, that's why I use a service that acts as a middleman for my card, that and security. It's basically a PayPal type service. The bank only sees a payment to the service, they would actually have to trace the payment by contacting said service and getting the direct record of where the money went.

Also, someone should look into that law, it is bordering on infringement of the first amendment and, with the right judge and/or justice depending on how far the case goes, it could be overturned as unconstitutional since fiction is protected. I'm not saying it actually is unconstitutional, I'm just saying putting it through the right courts might get results against it.


None of the tags give me pause since no real people are involved, except censorship, kinetic novel, and real porn. I tend to dislike western live action porn and that means pictures as well, but JAV is a different story, especially the underground stuff that somehow escapes getting censored before distribution or the stuff that gets uncensored by a third party. In fact, the tags you listed, rape and bestiality in particular, I tend to enjoy in any form as long as it is acted or otherwise not real.


If they themselves are liberated, that is. The thing is the people who screech about drawings and 3D renders tend to either look the other way or are actively involved when real people are in danger.


That's...that's actually pretty freaking great, well done. I do see a major resemblance to the character, in fact, after pulling up one of her sprite images from my game folder, you nailed her appearance. A LITTLE dark on the eyes, hers are a bit more pale and have a lightening effect as you go down toward the bottom of the iris, or whatever the colored part is called, I forgot, but you were pretty much spot on with your work.

Yea those are valid points i just tend prefer my crazy out where i can see it. With Noriko, the MC knows she is crazy and can at least try to avoid the crazy situations. But like you said when it comes to Ami, he is clueless and i dont think would see it coming. Also i feel Noriko would be a bigger risk of self harm instead of harming others, whereas Ami i think would go ballistic and certainly harm. Not saying it's impossible that Noriko would do something like that as well, just that i find it more likely with Ami. I do agree that Noriko would be more likely to fuck up MC life in other way, such as socially by telling people about the relationships as well though to try and force him out of those relationships

And with the Harem thing, If we are talking in game then yea i am cool with a Harem. When i say i would not want a harem i mean in real life. Games are an escape and chance to do these things without the real complications of them for. Same reason that i creampie and knock every single girl when possible in these games even though in real life i am not too fond of kids.

 

[alex2011]

I do not like Noriko. Gives me a bad vibe. Which to me, means the character has been well written. I like that I don't like her.

This game occupies way too much of my brain's idle processing, I love it.

Absolutely, she is a great character writing wise, but I definitely wouldn't want anything to do with her until she gets help.

Yea those are valid points i just tend prefer my crazy out where i can see it. With Noriko, the MC knows she is crazy and can at least try to avoid the crazy situations. But like you said when it comes to Ami, he is clueless and i dont think would see it coming. Also i feel Noriko would be a bigger risk of self harm instead of harming others, whereas Ami i think would go ballistic and certainly harm. Not saying it's impossible that Noriko would do something like that as well, just that i find it more likely with Ami. I do agree that Noriko would be more likely to fuck up MC life in other way, such as socially by telling people about the relationships as well though to try and force him out of those relationships

And with the Harem thing, If we are talking in game then yea i am cool with a Harem. When i say i would not want a harem i mean in real life. Games are an escape and chance to do these things without the real complications of them for. Same reason that i creampie and knock every single girl when possible in these games even though in real life i am not too fond of kids.

That's the thing with crazy, you never know who all the crazy ones are. As for self harm, the biggest risk is actually Rin, Noriko is way too open with her apprehension toward sharing emotionally, but Rin has depression AND a history of self harm already. Ami would definitely go ballistic, possibly in a literal sense, and I feel Noriko would as well, igniting a love war between them. I could also see Noriko targeting player Sensei for social fuckery and/or elimination yandere style. He would more than likely blow up at her for fucking up his life and she would feel betrayed beyond any reconciliation and, if she really turns out to fit the yandere archetype, she'll eliminate him in a fit of 'if I can't have him, no one can.'

I'm not sure on a real life harem, it would be nice once out of the whole issue with favoritism, but it's kind of a social no no in certain areas. Not necessarily illegal, but socially unwelcome.

 

[~J&F~]

Dude, this is perfection.

Thanks yo XD

 

[El_Zane_123]

Why a water gun and not an M16 though ?

Cause unlike a certain other character she only appears to be crazy, she ain't actually. ^^
And for that other, actual deep-down batshit character, a flamethrower would probably fit better anyway.

 

[mannice431]

Does anyone know what the event with Kaori that gets glitchy is called? (The one with the chickens i think)

Also, people are saying Ayane has calmed down, but didn't Selebus imply sometime back that she might snap in the future?

(I think Selebus even posted a pic of yandere Ayane with crazy eyes and a knife sometime back, anyone remember that?)

 

[Deleted member 1697433]

Does anyone know what the event with Kaori that gets glitchy is called? (The one with the chickens i think)

Also, people are saying Ayane has calmed down, but didn't Selebus imply sometime back that she might snap in the future?

(I think Selebus even posted a pic of yandere Ayane with crazy eyes and a knife sometime back, anyone remember that?)

That was just a fun picture I made as a phone wallpaper for myself

 

[mannice431]

That was just a fun picture I made as a phone wallpaper for myself

By all means feel free to include a yandere Ayane in a mindfuck segment, nothing would be better than that.

This game ticks all the boxes so far, vanilla, mindfuck and moe, very nice

 

[alex2011]

Cause unlike a certain other character she only appears to be crazy, she ain't actually. ^^
And for that other, actual deep-down batshit character, a flamethrower would probably fit better anyway.

I don't think it was only appearances, she seemed genuinely ready to do whatever it takes to be exclusive to player Sensei and for him to be exclusive to her, including murder. That said, in recent updates, she has been calming down rather rapidly and she is at the point where I can't see her as a threat in the same sense as I do Noriko, whose threat level is through the roof for potentially being the cause of one or more of the students mysteriously being found dead on campus or in a river, either that or in a bloody pile in a dark alley, that works too.

Does anyone know what the event with Kaori that gets glitchy is called? (The one with the chickens i think)

Also, people are saying Ayane has calmed down, but didn't Selebus imply sometime back that she might snap in the future?

(I think Selebus even posted a pic of yandere Ayane with crazy eyes and a knife sometime back, anyone remember that?)

She is calming down, yes, and she did indeed seem to be at the point where she could have ended up exactly like in that picture Selebus did for fun at first. Now I see Noriko in that same situation and I REALLY don't like it, she creeps me out on a whole different magnitude of yikes. The yandere energy coming off of Ayane in the beginning pales in comparison to that coming off of Noriko. To put it into perspective, I'll use an example from outside the game, let's go with a DBZ reference, the original anime DBZ, not the remake or the sequels. If Ayane's beginning yandere level was at super saiyan levels, Noriko's is currently at Super Saiyan three. We're talking massive differences in how much of a threat even their respective beginning selves pose.

 

[akselx]

She is calming down, yes, and she did indeed seem to be at the point where she could have ended up exactly like in that picture Selebus did for fun at first. Now I see Noriko in that same situation and I REALLY don't like it, she creeps me out on a whole different magnitude of yikes. The yandere energy coming off of Ayane in the beginning pales in comparison to that coming off of Noriko. To put it into perspective, I'll use an example from outside the game, let's go with a DBZ reference, the original anime DBZ, not the remake or the sequels. If Ayane's beginning yandere level was at super saiyan levels, Noriko's is currently at Super Saiyan three. We're talking massive differences in how much of a threat even their respective beginning selves pose.

I don't think Anyone ever was a yandere material at all. Remember her reaction when Kirin caught her? She's all bravado, smoke and mirrors.

Random unrelated question to anyone who might know (this person may or may not be the dev): when will the dorm 9 be introduced?