Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.44.0] [Selebus]

[barglenarglezous]

Only 25-30% done? wtf

By his own admission, we've got at least 5-6 years left of updates.

 

[starkj]

By his own admission, we've got at least 5-6 years left of updates.

I guess i better start playing then.

 

[barglenarglezous]

And got you in the broken world, the end?

Uugh, f it, don't know why I'm fishing for clues here.
I'm sick of this game, I'm shamed I tried for so many hours.
Only a idiot would do that again and again and again.

Pray at the shrine until "go back to school" appears as an option.

Your brain may fuck with you a bit and say the screen hasn't changed, so you might not even look for it, but it's listed as an option once you've prayed at the shrine enough.

 

[AgumenticR]

In that scene, Nodoka is sus from the outset. Sensei even calls out the fact that she's picking up and breaking the same mug repeatedly. She's able to lure Sensei past the barrier -- which we now know is not just a military security barrier, but also a barrier of space and time. She vanishes without a sound.

If it wasn't Daisy, it was someone else with similar powers, but it certainly wasn't Nodoka.

I am not sure why do you think Nodoka is not the one who has these powers, when she is clearly connected to higher powers, especially in her manic state. She outright brings up information that only exists on an ARG twitter account, after all.

 

[Intoxicated Cat]

Selebus

I know you browse this forum, Selebus. Just wanted to let you know that this update was great. You're definitely getting better at flowing stories together and I'm glad Maya finally got the attention she deserves. Keep up the good work, it's honestly so nice to come home and see that you updated. Although I should probably post this on subscribestar, I'll just do it here and pretend that you'll see it.

Good work. xo

 

[barglenarglezous]

I am not sure why do you think Nodoka is not the one who has these powers, when she is clearly connected to higher powers, especially in her manic state. She outright brings up information that only exists on an ARG twitter account, after all.

I'm not sure why you're so sure that Manic Nodoka is actually Nodoka at all, now that it's established that at least one person exists who can wear someone else's face.

 

[SadCoomer]

I'm not sure why you're so sure that Manic Nodoka is actually Nodoka at all, now that it's established that at least one person exists who can wear someone else's face.

I might be wrong but I remember Futaba and Otoha stating that they already knew abuot her manic states before the start of the game (and so the time loop). Of course this doesn't completely clear doubts (and again, I'm not 100% sure), but I think it would be weird if Daisy or whichever entity would mess up with them too

 

[barglenarglezous]

I might be wrong but I remember Futaba and Otoha stating that they already knew abuot her manic states before the start of the game (and so the time loop). Of course this doesn't completely clear doubts (and again, I'm not 100% sure), but I think it would be weird if Daisy or whichever entity would mess up with them too

That's a fair point, and a detail I had forgotten.

That doesn't change the fact that Manic Nodoka does things a human shouldn't be able to do.

So a more likely explanation would be that in her manic fits, she's tapping into a divine channel, similar to Speaking in Tongues Yasu, and given her level of perversion, it wouldn't surprise me if she had some kind of natural affinity for Nozomu, but isn't actually able to make sense of what she's connecting to when it happens.

Which is, admittedly, an interesting take on the "driven mad by infinite wisdom" trope.

 

[k1n5l4y3r]

When Melon girl appears in that Nodoka scene Sensei is still staring a hole in Nodoka's butt, there is no way Melon is Nodoka in that scene.
Also, Molly and Sensei have some Raid Shadow Legends conversations that totally breaks not only her character but Sensei's character too and no one is accusing Molly of beign the Wire god or something.

 

[worthlesspeon]

There's also that bit of dialog in the "good uncle" route where she confirms that she's not related by blood; at least, that's what it sounded like to me. She brings up the fact that if blood is the only reason you're not fucking her, then she's got news for you. (Of course, it can be interpreted as proof of the "Sensei is everyone's dad" theory as well.) Of course, she also goes on a rant about how she can take on all your lust and rage since she's "just a doll" and goes slightly supervillain by vowing to make you so horny you regret not sleeping with her in a wonderfully deranged speech. Plus, how she handled her outburst right before she took you to the sauna makes me believe that she's getting more open about using her powers as well. So there's a lot to unpack.

There is a 3rd option there. She might know that nozomu isn't her real father. But that leaves open the possibility that Sensei is actually her father (which she wouldn't be aware of)

 

[LooLoo Baloo]

Sooo...
That broken reality is the end right?
I mean...
I'm sure there are things to do, never saw a sign with "THE END"
But after months (hours) clicking in limbo I'm out of ideas what to do....
Start over, throw my pc from my balcony or even better...myself.
A hint system build in, and a big sign "The END",would be nice.
Cut that pointless grinding out of your script and give more pointers on what to do and this could be a great game.
Now...
I'm frustrated about hours lost and not being able to see all the content.
fuverymuch

It's not game over, I thought the same. You have to raise with your affection to god to I think 10 or 15 and then go to the school (Work). I thought it was over or that I'd done something wrong too but you're actually fairly close to the start of the game and there's a lot more to come

 

[zeroidk]

Only 25-30% done? wtf

Right? And I just caught up to v0.20. I'm never going to finish this game lol. This dev is fuckin wild, must live and breathe this game.

 

[fdsasdf_p]

MAN
it’s so nice to finally have Maya sweet moments❤

Tons of interesting stuff happened, but I am most intrigued by the fuckery awareness of Yumi and Tsuenyo.

While Tsuenyo seems to be semi conscious about it, Yumi needs to be confronted to be aware about it; some (Inami and Chika) can even straight up remember things may or may not have happened during the 2-month skip when asked.

If we assume Yumi and Tsuenyo are currently the only two that are aware without being in the roof squad, then why them? Tsuenyo has her fare shares of mystery, but for Yumi, even Sensei asks himself why Yumi (according to him, she is “not close to him, hasn’t made it to the roof, always she finds him and not the other way around”).

If these two are simply normal teenagers (aka not some divine being reincarnation), then what do they have in common that could’ve prompted this?

The only thing I can think of is that both of them weren’t always in the school system (Yumi constantly skipping school and Tsuenyo homeschooling), so maybe they are more outside of some divine intervention in a way? Outside of Teacher’s influence? (TBH I have no clue)


Lastly, I wish I can see what Ayane sees when she’s talking to Yasu.

 

[Jordan369]

I missed the Ami event and Futaba event in this update and I have no clue why. I thought it might be because I gave floor 2 the win during the Dorm War but I went back and tried giving it to floor 1, nothing changed. Anyone know the what's required for these?

 

[fdsasdf_p]

I missed the Ami event and Futaba event in this update and I have no clue why. I thought it might be because I gave floor 2 the win during the Dorm War but I went back and tried giving it to floor 1, nothing changed. Anyone know the what's required for these?

Your lust points for Ami, Futaba/Makoto weren’t high enough (look up some previous posts to see how many you need). Who won the war currently doesn’t seem to have an effect.

 

[swaggyg]

MAN
it’s so nice to finally have Maya sweet moments❤

Tons of interesting stuff happened, but I am most intrigued by the fuckery awareness of Yumi and Tsuenyo.

While Tsuenyo seems to be semi conscious about it, Yumi needs to be confronted to be aware about it; some (Inami and Chika) can even straight up remember things may or may not have happened during the 2-month skip when asked.

If we assume Yumi and Tsuenyo are currently the only two that are aware without being in the roof squad, then why them? Tsuenyo has her fare shares of mystery, but for Yumi, even Sensei asks himself why Yumi (according to him, she is “not close to him, hasn’t made it to the roof, always she finds him and not the other way around”).

If these two are simply normal teenagers (aka not some divine being reincarnation), then what do they have in common that could’ve prompted this?

The only thing I can think of is that both of them weren’t always in the school system (Yumi constantly skipping school and Tsuenyo homeschooling), so maybe they are more outside of some divine intervention in a way? Outside of Teacher’s influence? (TBH I have no clue)


Lastly, I wish I can see what Ayane sees when she’s talking to Yasu.

For Tsuneyo, it's most likely to do with her dying dad and how he connects to the god of wires and the old district in general.

For Yumi, I think it has something to do with her relationship with a previous iteration of Sensei that keeps getting alluded to throughout her events.

 

[Jordan369]

Your lust points for Ami, Futaba/Makoto weren’t high enough (look up some previous posts to see how many you need). Who won the war currently doesn’t seem to have an effect.

Oh so Makoto and Futaba go together for this one? I had plenty of Futaba lust points so I didn't think that was the problem. Thanks.

 

[johlem]

I just finished the version (which once again is excellent), but there is a point that I'm not sure I understand.

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[KnowNoHope]

I just finished the version (which once again is excellent), but there is a point that I'm not sure I understand.

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She knows what happened in the last two months. She doesn't remember doing it is the problem. It's like having the answer to a math problem with none of the work. She is confused because she did things she wouldn't do. Like going to class and apologizing and such.
That's how I'm looking at it

 

[kitsunedawn]

She knows he won't remember any interaction they have. So why talk to him at all? Any conversation she has with Sensei is for our benefit, not his. The point of that scene is to set up some worldbuilding.

1) That the area beyond the barrier exists outside of time, so there's essentially a time bubble around Kumon-Mi that's isolating it from the rest of the world (which should make the reports from the war about Maki and Haruka's husbands immediately suspicious)
2) That within Kumon-mi there is a set of rules that become more flexible outside of it
3) That any time a character is behaving out of character, it might not ACTUALLY be that character
4) That Sensei has to learn things in a set order, and that he cannot really handle learning too much in the wrong order -- which recontextualizes what Maya believes about how learning anything at all about his past breaks him. It's not that he can't learn anything about his past, it's that he must learn these things in a set order, and when that order is disrupted, that's when he breaks.

In that scene, Nodoka is sus from the outset. Sensei even calls out the fact that she's picking up and breaking the same mug repeatedly. She's able to lure Sensei past the barrier -- which we now know is not just a military security barrier, but also a barrier of space and time. She vanishes without a sound.

If it wasn't Daisy, it was someone else with similar powers, but it certainly wasn't Nodoka.

The reports about the war, or Maki and Haruka's husband doesn't have to be suspicious. At least, not in the way you would expect. If a higher power is controlling everything (good, or evil), it would make sense to allow certain events to take place; especially if those events further reinforce what is happening within that sealed off area, or create a situation that the one in control wants to set in motion to "see what would happen."

I'm reminded of the original US run of "Big Brother". In that, the people inside the house were sealed off from all outside news or information. However, from time to time, the show's director and producers, would 'seed' information to the people inside the house. This was done to see how the people within the house reacted. What's more, it didn't always make sense in the context of what was happening with the show.

There's similar done on other reality type shows. Another good example is "Joe Schmo" where only the one person wasn't an actor; and everyone else was. From time to time, that show introduced problems or events into the show, in an effort to see how Joe would adapt to these problems and revelations. Granted in that show, none of it was true, but the point stands.

I think similar is happening here, and that higher power is effectively poking around and seeing what happens, or what Sensei does when presented with these various problems.

I don't think there is a singular "This person is in overall control" within the girls, but more that each of them are structured in such a way as to test Sensei and help him regain his memories in the right order at the right time.