Black Raven

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What a fucking piece of shit hypocrite. How does Selebus telling him any of that makes any difference ? All of it is fucking obvious playing the game itself.

Of course he's gonna add a loli tag because there are lolis in the game. Duh. Of course he thinks it's fine to be attracted to underage characters (CHARACTERS) because y'know, he's making a game with fuckable underage characters. Dead giveaway.
 

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In fact, this is the same group I warned the Harem Hotel developer about as at the time they were very active out in the open where the developer is known to talk about his game, leading to the politically charged comment seemingly directed at me considering I was the only one mentioning it.
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What a weird overreaction. Apparently, having a loli tag in your game makes u not a "nice person". Slavery is fine, thought. Because you condemn it in your game, apparently. While using it for kink purposes.
To add to that, I played his game and I remember there being at least once character that falls under a classic, straight outta novel, Lolita archetype, so I don't understand how he thinks he has any moral high ground (he probably does a lot of mental gymnastics. "Well, she says she 18, so...").
I resent such hypocracy.
 
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Black Raven

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What a weird overreaction. Apparently, having a loli tag in your game makes u not a "nice person". Slavery is fine, thought. Because you condemn it in your game, apparently. While using it for kink purposes.
Just like LiL very much condemn the loli grooming (while using it for kink purposes).
 
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Just like LiL very much condemn the loli grooming (while using it for kink purposes).
I don't think that's right to equate how the game presents its themes with what creator publicly says. If there's one thing I appreciate about what Lil is doing, it's that Sell says the quiet part out loud.
 

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What a fucking piece of shit hypocrite. How does Selebus telling him any of that makes any difference ? All of it is fucking obvious playing the game itself.

Of course he's gonna add a loli tag because there are lolis in the game. Duh. Of course he thinks it's fine to be attracted to underage characters (CHARACTERS) because y'know, he's making a game with fuckable underage characters. Dead giveaway.
Or at least is planned to have them by the developer's own admission on multiple occasions.

It's pretty much obvious why anyone takes a chance at this VN. Getting hooked for the actual plotlines comes after.
I mean, that tends to be the general mentality on sites like this, but some of us are genuinely in it for the plot. I started as one of those in it for the 'plot' up until 0.8.0, when the plot met the minimum or higher level of quality I am sort of forced to require to subscribe.

What a weird overreaction. Apparently, having a loli tag in your game makes u not a "nice person". Slavery is fine, thought. Because you condemn it in your game, apparently. While using it for kink purposes.
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He uses Twitter, a site known to have people who will gang up on anything with even remotely loli looking things in it, which over the time since I brought it up in the game thread has come to include flatter, shorter women regardless of their actual age.
Right, right. The "Uzaki-chan controversy". On this topic, I saw a NY Times article recently about the guy who dates a 30 y/o woman that looks like 8-10 in stature. Not exactly a dwarfism and she doesn't looks like a kid, just has small proportions. People on twitter thread were legid saying that she should die alone, because she looks too young to have relationship. It obviously doesn't help, that article was titled something like "Guys, pls, I'm not a creep...", but still.
 

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Right, right. The "Uzaki-chan controversy". On this topic, I saw a NY Times article recently about the guy who dates a 30 y/o woman that looks like 8-10 in stature. Not exactly a dwarfism and she doesn't looks like a kid, just has small proportions. People on twitter thread were legid saying that she should die alone, because she looks to young to have relationship. It obviously doesn't help, that article was titled something like "Guys, pls, I'm not a creep...", but still.
That's one of them, but since the first of two instances of that particular issue, there has been a whole list of others (I have had the misfortune of watching this unfold right in front of me, no media involved except Twitter itself because it is a "social media" platform) and it has since branched so far that I don't see adult games out of the realm of possibility. This is actually why I don't remove anti-fiction activists like the ones who struck out at Uzaki more than once among others as a potential culprit in the LiL Patreon issue. If they will hit SFW fiction even when a character isn't even human or is confirmed at or above age, they will hit NSFW fiction despite the same, it is only a matter of how long until they discover it. They would absolutely report games on sites that would affect production in some way if it meant possibly stopping the game entirely, something that was at the time a very real threat to this game during the Patreon issue on a site that basically requires user reports for flagging.
 
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Funny that saves got mentioned, I messed up again, fell for exactly the same thing as the Rin/Chika lock out, but in later content (I was a fool and didn't play it smart around a certain choice that once again puts me into a future red event) and am now back at the start (per my own personal rules, if I ever get something marked red or confirmed in a state where I will be seeing something marked red in the future with no way to stop it from happening, all my saves are to be deleted and I restart from the beginning, no exceptions). This marks the 30th restart since the beginning of development that resulted from a first time through an event, a point at which I would not have had the notes I do now. I have had no restarts off of events I have watched more than once, I have notes to prevent that.
 
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Funny that saves got mentioned, I messed up again, fell for exactly the same thing as the Rin/Chika lock out, but in later content (I was a fool and didn't play it smart around a certain choice that once again puts me into a future red event) and am now back at the start (per my own personal rules, if I ever get something marked red or confirmed in a state where I will be seeing something marked red in the future with no way to stop it from happening, all my saves are to be deleted and I restart from the beginning, no exceptions). This marks the 30th restart since the beginning of development that resulted from a first time through an event, a point at which I would not have had the notes I do now. I have had no restarts off of events I have watched more than once, I have notes to prevent that.
Jesus, my dude. I thought I was obsessed for attempting to go through the game cataloguing info on characters and thoughts on events (currently on hold), but u take the cake.
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I just want my Yumi fucking scenes damn it! At the rate my girl is going we might get some consenual hand holding next year :mad:
Other than the matador event I don't think we are going to get any sexual content for yumi anytime soon becuase of plot.
 

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Right, right. The "Uzaki-chan controversy". On this topic, I saw a NY Times article recently about the guy who dates a 30 y/o woman that looks like 8-10 in stature. Not exactly a dwarfism and she doesn't looks like a kid, just has small proportions. People on twitter thread were legid saying that she should die alone, because she looks too young to have relationship. It obviously doesn't help, that article was titled something like "Guys, pls, I'm not a creep...", but still.
I mean, at one point it was "any girl under 5'8" is minor-coded regardless of her age," and, um, that's a few inches taller than average for women, so....
 

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Jesus, my dude. I thought I was obsessed for attempting to go through the game cataloguing info on characters and thoughts on events (currently on hold), but u take the cake.
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It isn't just this game, either. I have binders full of notes from old text based puzzle and adventure games from the 90s and early 2000s that proved too difficult to not keep notes on. That one is just standard practice for me.

The part about starting over is unique to this game, though. I am a completionist, so I am going for as close to all events seen as I can get in one run and any red event is a threat to that, so I restart entirely as a punishment for my mistake.

I mean, at one point it was "any girl under 5'8" is minor-coded regardless of her age," and, um, that's a few inches taller than average for women, so....
This, perfect example of why I made the comments I did in the other game thread and why I do not rule out certain outsider elements reporting the game as the reason for the Patreon issue.
 
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What a weird overreaction. Apparently, having a loli tag in your game makes u not a "nice person". Slavery is fine, thought. Because you condemn it in your game, apparently. While using it for kink purposes.
Yeah, not much of a moral high ground when you can rape characters in your game, but at least it's optional.

I don't judge what cartoons people enjoy, but I'll be interested to see if LiL makes the right call and makes the actual loli content optional. Otherwise I think it'll be needlessly turning away some chunk of its audience (not because it's morally wrong, but because it's gross) and inviting further scrutiny. Even Ami being optional is great.
 
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Come on, only Bargle replied, where's the rest of the usual gang? There's a very large penis roaming about and i need to know what you think is going to happen to it.
With how things are going between Rin and Otoha, I believe Rin will explore the other side of her bisexuality that she has been ignoring. If not Rin, then Uta; the last reason she had to hold out just went out the window, so I believe she will seize the opportunity. Finally, as a wishful thought, I hope Tsuneyo will be the next one.

And God willing, I hope the next threesom will be with Nikki and Noriko. I don't care about the likelihood of it actually happening; I just need it to happen as soon as possible.
 
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