Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.45.0] [Selebus]

[DeSkel15]

like i said just above the part you qouted, i got no in game reference for the 2nd part of the theory as of yet, mainly just that it would explain a lot of tsuneyo's... behaviors, but tsuneyo's sheltered life is actually pretty uncommon considering she lives smack dab in a metropolitian style city in it's poorest section. Really implies her dad was a crazy level control freak with her. almost every sheltered home schooled kid i have met in the states was either from the country or a high class suburb where it is easier to control what the child comes in contact with.
you can compare it to the other home schooled kids too.
chinami at 5000 years old seems more wise with the way the world works at times than tsuneyo.
tsukasa and tapir also both seem more wise to the world too though their situation is a bit different.

Keep in mind, that others like Chinami and Tsukasa, still had other people to teach them stuff. Tsuneyo didn't have sisters or butlers. Tsuneyo did however become a Kendo champion, so I don't think she was completely sheltered. It seems more like there was just no need for her to get out much. She already had a business to inherit. I can see Tsuneyo simply being asocial instead of traumatized.

Sorry I meant she didn't know about the tutoring of Maya and noriko specifically and sensei didn't tutor where they lived. That was brought up before.
As for the God of wires not wanting him to remember. It seems that is when it is most actively trying to stop or change senses decision when he is going somewhere or talking to someone that is going to trigger him. Combine that with some of the on the nose rants in happy events I took to be from the God of wires based on the fact... well, wires were in it. Made it sound like the God of wires is pupetting people into positions of convience and trying to keep things from moving forward or trying to destroy relationships with sensei before they even really begin.

I am under the impression that Happy Events and stuff that mess up, come from the "wires" being tangled or messed with by Noz and the angels or simply the character themselves who don't want to feel something. When stuff like that happens, the god of wires then tries to fix the problem or set them on another path so that they can continue running. The god of wires otherwise needs permission to really do anything other than prevent certain things like death.

In other words, the god of wires seems to be the system trying to run the programs (characters etc), but when things go wrong, those are errors or bugs, or even viruses. Noz and his angels are like a hacker with viruses trying to corrupt the system and programs, and Pareidolia is like an anti-virus software that's learning how to get rid of the virus as time goes on.

Nao on the otherhand seems like the programmer/developer. Getting those "concerned"/Pareidolia/Anti Virus software involved whenever absolutely needed, but otherwise simply watching the system run and the Users use.

Overall, I'm not sure the gow cares about Sensei's past or actually "cares" at all, and just makes sure he can keep running. It seems more like Sensei himself doesn't want to remember it, and Noz doesn't want him to remember things that could get in it's way. Of course, I could be wrong.

 

[DeSkel15]

IIRC Akira lived somewhere in the old district, but rented another space for tutoring, like Niki rents a sketch ass basement to teach singing.
I doubt it was Tsuneyo's place tho, or Noriko and Maya would probably know Tsuneyo, but it was a sketch ass place with a bed and bathroom. Probably one of those one room cheap ass apartment.

Possibly, I don't recall his apartment and the place he lived and tutored being noted to be different, but I can definitely see where you're coming from. Him being the Nakayama's neighbor is like the only thing that seems to imply he lived elsewhere besides the current place and the apartment, and I just assumed that was his parent's house.

 

[QQP_Purple]

Can anyone tell me the source of the sad violin music used for Mollies theme? Or like just recommend something similar. I am sort of hooked on the genre thanks to this game.

 

[KnowNoHope]

Possibly, I don't recall his apartment and the place he lived and tutored being noted to be different, but I can definitely see where you're coming from. Him being the Nakayama's neighbor is like the only thing that seems to imply he lived elsewhere besides the current place and the apartment, and I just assumed that was his parent's house.

I believe it was an event either Maya or noriko(I think it was her but not 100%) tell him he rented out a space and he even has an inner monologs about it when he visits Nikis basement one time.

 

[KnowNoHope]

Can anyone tell me the source of the sad violin music used for Mollies theme? Or like just recommend something similar. I am sort of hooked on the genre thanks to this game.

... Celtic fiddle?
Irish fiddle can also be called sometimes

 

[fdsasdf_p]

Can anyone tell me the source of the sad violin music used for Mollies theme? Or like just recommend something similar. I am sort of hooked on the genre thanks to this game.

The song itself is The Dawning of the Day, but I yet to find the exact same violin-only cover; for similar genre look up Irish Celtic Fiddle

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[QQP_Purple]

Thanks.

 

[Pervyfox]

Overall, I'm not sure the gow cares about Sensei's past or actually "cares" at all, and just makes sure he can keep running. It seems more like Sensei himself doesn't want to remember it, and Noz doesn't want him to remember things that could get in it's way. Of course, I could be wrong.

But Sensei has started to want to remember more and more, maybe THAT'S why he's able to learn about his past where beforehand whenever something like that happened he got reset?

 

[barglenarglezous]

But Sensei has started to want to remember more and more, maybe THAT'S why he's able to learn about his past where beforehand whenever something like that happened he got reset?

I think Maya's misinterpreting what happened when he "reset." Just like she misinterpreted what was causing his blackouts.

She thinks the blackouts are caused by memories. They're not. They're caused by the angels. His blackouts happen whenever he gets touched by one of the angels (as we see in the scene leading up to Toys).

The angels are using the blackouts to make him behave as the new Nozomu (who literally seems to be in charge during the Sara rape scene, even saying that women are just fleshlights to him), but when Ami finds out about it -- well, we see how she is.

I think he resets when Ami catches him and kills him.

 

[Pervyfox]

yeah, that's fairly solid, but maya does say she straight up broke several iterations of him in the past. though i guess if we are going with the Maya being an angel theory as well then that would make some sort of sense.
i understand not giving us all the answers right away and whatnot, but the fact that in a lot of the blackout scenes theres no hint of angels around..
I do agree that Ami almost certainly has something to do with him being reset. or whoever exactly is in control of her there.

Trying to not focus on one particular theory is hard. I personally feel like we are still missing a good amount to really start solving things but..
In the Ask Sel section on discord someone asked "Is there still a major secret that you think we should have figured out by now?"
And Sel said "A bunch of them but most people refuse to move on from theories they've grown attached to"

 

[DeSkel15]

I believe it was an event either Maya or noriko(I think it was her but not 100%) tell him he rented out a space and he even has an inner monologs about it when he visits Nikis basement one time.

I recall Noriko saying that "creepy old apartment of yours", but nothing about him renting it for tutoring. Also can't find the Niki basement monologue you're referring to. Could have missed it though.

 

[BlackDays]

Noriko in her Loxosceles Reclusa event.

"...for my parents to drive me over to that grody, crumbling building where you taught me so many things."

 

[DeSkel15]

But Sensei has started to want to remember more and more, maybe THAT'S why he's able to learn about his past where beforehand whenever something like that happened he got reset?

Could be. Current Sensei definitely seems to want to know more than his previous versions ever did.

Although, it also could be that it was specifically Maya telling him about the past and trying to get close to him that has broke previous versions of him. Ami, Niki, Noriko, etc, all seem to be able to bring up his past or his age or even his name and he's mostly fine (apparently he can even ignore when people say his name). Maya does it though, and she becomes a bird to him or he breaks.

 

[QQP_Purple]

Honestly I think that's because it was she who broke everything to begin with. My personal theory is that when she first eloped with him he didn't behave the way she wanted him. Maybe he was too broken and killed him self or something. I don't know. But than she did something to try and get him back and that's what caused the whole time loop mess. And a consequence of that is that when ever she personally gets too close things break even worse.

 

[QQP_Purple]

Also what happens if I pick to have sex with Maki? Like, what events does it effect later?

 

[KnowNoHope]

I recall Noriko saying that "creepy old apartment of yours", but nothing about him renting it for tutoring. Also can't find the Niki basement monologue you're referring to. Could have missed it though.

I will say she never called it an apartment in that event.

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but if you want me to search for a specific frame for a specific line, nah, i dont have anywhere near the patience for it, though i do periodically go through each girls events one by one, I legit can't be bothered to write down each event that corresponds to a theory. ( I really hate how difficult it is to find things in this game, i know someone suggested a really good idea for the wiki where you can search events by who is in them and you can add multiple people to the search... that would be fantastic. there are also scenes/frames being cut out of these replay events now for several updates which bothers me too)
the niki's basement thing i'm not entirely sure what he said in his thoughts, just alluded to his tutoring days he cant remember and compared it to what niki is doing.

 

[Bingoogus]

i know someone suggested a really good idea for the wiki where you can search events by who is in them and you can add multiple people to the search

That was me, and yes, i know it's surprising for my dumb ass to come up with such a good idea, but as i do enjoy self deprecating myself, allow me to diminish any garnered esteem by saying i got the idea from Gelbooru, any booru really, adding tags and minusing out others for ever more specific porn entirely changed the way i thought about categorising and searching systems, before that you basically just had 'search for futa hentai and dig for hours to find something good', now it's 'ah, so you want stretched-anus creampie aftersex bondage latex doctor medical-examination femdom? Alright, here you go'.

 

[barglenarglezous]

Trying to not focus on one particular theory is hard. I personally feel like we are still missing a good amount to really start solving things but..
In the Ask Sel section on discord someone asked "Is there still a major secret that you think we should have figured out by now?"
And Sel said "A bunch of them but most people refuse to move on from theories they've grown attached to"

I've got dozens, if not hundreds, of theories, some abandoned, some explicitly disproven in-game (the old pregnancy theory). The pregnancy theory getting bombed in-game made it clear that it's better to have a list of possible theories and continually come up with new ones than ride-or-die on a single one.

So now I just throw shit at the walls and see what sticks. Tomorrow, I'll insist that whoever thinks Ami's been repeatedly killing Akira is a god-damned moron and that it's really the Noriko doing it. Or something. The theorizing is the fun bit. Being right -- if that ever happens -- will just be a bonus.

 

[barglenarglezous]

but if you want me to search for a specific frame for a specific line, nah, i dont have anywhere near the patience for it, though i do periodically go through each girls events one by one, I legit can't be bothered to write down each event that corresponds to a theory. ( I really hate how difficult it is to find things in this game, i know someone suggested a really good idea for the wiki where you can search events by who is in them and you can add multiple people to the search... that would be fantastic. there are also scenes/frames being cut out of these replay events now for several updates which bothers me too)
the niki's basement thing i'm not entirely sure what he said in his thoughts, just alluded to his tutoring days he cant remember and compared it to what niki is doing.

Even with that function, half the content in newer events is not available in Replay anyway because of flag-dependent dialogue.

 

[KnowNoHope]

I've got dozens, if not hundreds, of theories, some abandoned, some explicitly disproven in-game (the old pregnancy theory). The pregnancy theory getting bombed in-game made it clear that it's better to have a list of possible theories and continually come up with new ones than ride-or-die on a single one.

So now I just throw shit at the walls and see what sticks. Tomorrow, I'll insist that whoever thinks Ami's been repeatedly killing Akira is a god-damned moron and that it's really the Noriko doing it. Or something. The theorizing is the fun bit. Being right -- if that ever happens -- will just be a bonus.

ami is repeatedly killing akira?
I mean my theory was just the one time
i'm interested in this though
I recall some of my bad theories... now to be fair... these were made more to piss people off and cause i thought they were hilarious than any real attempt to make a theory
Mathew theory- there is a guy named Mathew in the game, and he hangs out in front of the school... every damn day and he spouts coded numbered messages... can you figure out what mathew is trying to tell us?
Sana has a penis theory- i was really proud over how bad this one was while at the same time still being plausible up till sel showing her down under. I have never been happier to have a theory destroyed like this one. I'm also kinda happy and dissapointed that i think this theory actually made sel overhaul a bunch of lines for sana/sarah in the rework that could've been taken as suggestive. when i did my first skip replay to catch up do to my first missed event since playing the game the amount of stops on sarah and sana after the remake were huge implying changed dialogue